So, no? They are bravest those who fight in obscurity, huh SOTL? You and your DD must be so proud.
Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.
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So, no? They are bravest those who fight in obscurity, huh SOTL? You and your DD must be so proud.
Are you asking me to reveal my identity? I guarantee you don't know me. Is that what we do when we don't agree with someone? Have you already revealed yours here?
What exactly am I fighting? You can't even disagree with me. You know gender isn't fluid. You know pronouns are stupid. You know the male musculoskeletal structure is superior to the female's. You know a male can never truly be a female. You know men can't give birth. You know men don't menstruate or naturally lactate. You're already admitted all of that. There's nothing to fight. You don't like me standing up for women's rights... which is odd considering, as a freedom fighter, you probably spent the last few decades demanding equal rights for women. Now, suddenly, they don't matter.
How brave of you.
That's funny. It's not a question of disagreeing with you. Folks like kicking kicker and Woobie and I have disagreements, but I have enormous respect for them. You are welcome to come to the conclusion that the accommodations being asked for are not reasonable. It's again a question of how you disagree and what your motivations are. Yours have been blatantly bigoted given the language you've used. And you do it hiding behind a shield. If you are proud of the words you drop, go ahead and step forward and come out from behind your shield. You said your DD was proud of you so there shouldn't be an issue there. Otherwise, you are no better than EOTL. But that's why I call you SOTL.
p.s. the Klan was real brave standing behind their hoods too. The civil rights marchers didn't mask and took their beatings proudly.
No, I wrote that I think she'd be proud of me standing up for women's rights above and beyond male trannies, desperately needing attention and the love/acceptance of their fathers, trampling them. Simple enough?
I don't care if you don't respect me. I don't care if you don't like my language. I'm not here to impress or endear you. More of your virtue signaling "KKK" rhetoric only lowers the bar you dangle from. I'm not hiding behind any shield. You know exactly how I feel and, furthermore, I don't give a rat's ass who you compare me to or think I'm above or beneath.
What makes you think your approval is significant in any way?
So your DD would not be proud of the way you've acted around here and your language? Got it.
Oh my approval is insignificant in all sorts of ways. But you aren't acting like a man who is exactly proud of what he's said and done. You don't even seem to approve of yourself. Great!
Lot's of people are doxing others on TS so folks are just avatars. It's scary place for sure. They got feds, CIA and the Mossad secret service and MS13 gang bangers. I'm about to go public with my real name over there because I don't care and I'm not afraid. Facebook was real. Then lawyers like that Goldman fella starting drawing redlines in the sand with their friends because their candidate Hillary lost to Trump. It was insane and I told them all to knock it off because we all knew each other from the play days and this is all wrong to hate someone because they don't support abortion. Then one of the lawyers started telling people my sins of my youth and trying to make me look bad. I already told my wife everything I ever did but the tone and motives of this mans heart was pure evil what this loser was doing so I told him and all the other wokies, "see ya." This guy treated girls like sh*t in school but I just left the place altogether and came here.
Is that why you're alone? Because you know men so well?
You needn't worry about what my daughter does or doesn't approve of. I'm guessing she cares less about you and your shield than I do.
I do approve of my position on the subject. What you "seem" to perceive also isn't relevant.
haha! So proud! I thought so!
The fact that either of my kids could potentially be trans or non-binary does not concern me.
Look at that! You're thinking... progress already.
Lawyers may think it's normal to spend several paragraphs defining "man" and "woman", but still get it wrong.
Most of us aren't linguistically challenged like that.
Keep it up. Slobodan will explain that boys are the ones born with a penis. You can write four paragraphs about wheelchair access and calling everyone bigot.
I’m sure you will believe that you won the argument.
No, you don’t get to turn this place into a transphobic safe space. I’m sorry if your daughter is so terrible that she can’t compete against a team with a trans child. Looks like no college sports for her.
We've already established you are linguistically challenged. The only thing we don't know is why.
You've been invited several times to denounce SOTL the same way I've denounced EOTL. But much like the COVID debate, you choose to make your bed with the most awful. I mean, I know you missed EOTL, and that you regarded his position here as a great betrayal of your friendship, so there's a partial explanation. But I only call out the bigotry when it's deserved (you haven't, BTW, seen me call out crush). But for you and SOTL, absolutely. And you in particular should be more ashamed, given who you are and what you do.
The only people here who are wasting time trying to explain the differences between men and women are the transphobes like yourself. The rest of us (and AYSO, ECNL, CIF etc) know that it doesn’t matter and they don’t care. They only care about gender identity, not who is biologically male or female.
I’m sorry if your daughter isn’t good enough to compete against a team with a trans player, but that only speaks to her lack of ability and not to any unfair advantage Not everyone can have kids who are actually good at soccer.
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There are some pretty serious claims here that call into question "gender-affirming care". I'd appreciate any rebuttals that address his claims (not "That trans is a transphobe"). When the legacy media consistently and continuously spouts the party line or ignores what can't be twisted to the party line, simply getting the facts straight on issues such as this isn't easy. Getting a balanced assessment is like finding a needle in a haystack.
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Here we go again with the same rhetoric when you have no idea where I stand on the issue. Get over yourself bro, and quit ignoring the questions posed to you or you cant because you cant bare to witness your own hypocrisy? You're an absolute blunt turd of a person, no wonder your wife left.
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Why do you continue to ignore the fact you fat shamed young girls?
I don't have a rebuttal because as I've stated I'm not up to date on the studies for why they think gender affirming care is somehow better than treating the mental condition. It's not my field It's pretty clear, however, that given we don't even know how to treat ADHD, there isn't a whole lot they can do for the mental condition either. But there are a few observations:
-Yes it's true Sweden and Finland have both restricted gender treatments in minors. Yes, they based it out of a study having to do with the fusing of spines in girls. They still allow it in certain very rare instances. I love love love that this is going to force dad4 to reexamine the medical choices of Sweden and Finland.
-yes it's true that the increase in gender dysphoria is highest in young and teen girls. As I said, this is different to what we find in nature where the MTFs tend to be more common. This has led to the suggestion that what is going on isn't necessarily that the girls are gender dysphoric but reject traditional notions of femininity. Nonbinary is almost an exclusively biological female thing, and if we are worried about the potential effects on minors, it would seem we might want to encourage the nonbinary choice in young women, given that it doesn't involve a physical change.
-That why I said you all are worried about the wrong thing.
-Yes it's true that there are people that transition who regret the changes. But they are specifically told (it's in the documents they signed, at least the ones I saw over 20 years ago), that it doesn't make all their problems resolve or that the gender dysphoria magically goes away. In fact, they are specifically warned that the feelings may continue, because many of them get depressed that while they might get close enough, they can never get fully there.
-Yes, it's true there is a gender treatment industrial complex that's out there to make a profit, particularly in the US and some third world nations like Thailand. But in Europe, it's actually a budget cost that is discouraged because of socialized medicine....there is no profit to be made....it's a cost to the state which the state would prefer to not incur if it had it's way from a strictly financial point of view. In fact, Europe strictly limits the covered operations for this reasons because they don't want people from other countries (such as the US) to set up residency there to get free cheap surgeries. The discussion of the gender treatment industrial complex in the US cannot be had without having a larger discussion of the predatory nature of the pharmaceutical companies, hospitals and surgeons in our for profit system. It's not really any different than the ADHD drugs in kids, colonoscopies for 50 year olds, yearly mammograms for the not at risk, or the COVID vaccine.
-Sounds like the guy has a bit of sour grapes for his choices. Sometimes people have a tendency to work themselves up for solutions. You see it in the excitement of kids heading off to college. Sometimes we are disappointed at those dreams not having met full expectation. Too bad, so sad, that's why you are an adult....don't blame others for your choices if the required disclosures were made. It's also why we should be very very very careful in allowing this in children, who are not capable of legally contracting anything.
-This guy isn't a transphobe. However, he is being exploited by Matt Walsh who is not only a transphobe, but is using the issue for his own (hypocritically) click bait purposes (given what we know from Crowder about the Daily Wire contracts), and who has something else going on with him which is really odd.
Oh, one more thing, there's a movement on the left and in the LGBTQ community (you saw it in sockma's gender is a social construct comments), that says that masculinity and femininity are all an illusion, not biological. Therefore men should be free to wear dresses, makeup, and be like the Tonganese sexy boys. Women should be free to not shave their legs, cut their hair short, and dress like men. Gender dysphoria, they contend, is a hoax because there is no such thing as being a man or being a woman and its rooted in prejudicial notions of what a woman or a man should behave like (unlike sockma, they come to the conclusion that with respect to sports everyone should be allowed to play everywhere because it doesn't matter). For that reason, gender dysphoria is under attack from both the hard right and the hard left. It sounds like this guy buys into that ideology (which given who Matt Walsh thinks he is, I sincerely doubt he's thought through the ramifications). They want to put all of us in Mao suits, and they'd be the first to stamp out dad4's hairbows on girl soccer teams. They'd actually regard it as a severe and bigoted act of violence, because you are imposing your patriarchal notions of femininity on young girls. They'd encourage the young girls to burn the hairbows, accuse you of abuse for giving it to them, and encourage the young girls to reject traditional notions of femininity by declaring nonbinary (which also BTW might dissuade them from motherhood, which to them is an added bonus....saves the planet supposedly).