Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.

Breaking news in Canada. Woman now have a penis. If you got a problem with that, STFU and deal with it.

Parents are furious about 'naked man' entering a girls' locker room

The girl's father, Allan Eisses, said one of the moms followed the transwoman into the changing rooms and herded the girls into the private stalls after catching a glimpse of the person. (and his package, yikes)
"While this was happening, the man proceeded to get undressed and walk around the room naked, penis hanging out in full view of all of them."
Eisses said his two oldest daughters, 13 and 15, witnessed the event, among others.
The Calgary Police Service (CPS) has not returned requests for comment from the Western Standard concerning the alleged incident.

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crush said:
AZ High School’s Policy Tells Girls to "Leave Their Locker Room If Uncomfortable With Trans Students"
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1920 called... they want their rules back.
Grace T. said:
You’re just closed minded. Unlike you I’ve actually been through something somewhat similar. This is even more permanent of a change since you are basically redoing your public identity.
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It's not about transitioning... it's about exploiting transitioning. You can discern the difference, yes?
 
crush said:
Breaking news in Canada. Woman now have a penis. If you got a problem with that, STFU and deal with it.

Parents are furious about 'naked man' entering a girls' locker room

The girl's father, Allan Eisses, said one of the moms followed the transwoman into the changing rooms and herded the girls into the private stalls after catching a glimpse of the person. (and his package, yikes)
"While this was happening, the man proceeded to get undressed and walk around the room naked, penis hanging out in full view of all of them."
Eisses said his two oldest daughters, 13 and 15, witnessed the event, among others.
The Calgary Police Service (CPS) has not returned requests for comment from the Western Standard concerning the alleged incident.

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He mustn't have been on his period. Otherwise someone would have mentioned the string dangling out of his ass.
 
Slobodan said:
1920 called... they want their rules back.


It's not about transitioning... it's about exploiting transitioning. You can discern the difference, yes?
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That's stupid even for you SOTL. No one is setting out doing this with an evil master plan to dominate women's athletics.
 
Grace T. said:
Hardly. You can argue the NCA protocols in this case failed to do what they should have to make it fair (that's fair), or that they can never balance, but unless you are going to call her a liar......

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She is not a he. This is insane Grace T. At least they should call Lia a "Them" or a "they" and not a she.
 
crush said:
She is not a he. This is insane Grace T. At least they should call Lia a "Them" or a "they" and not a she.
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You are arguing over a word which has no meaning. It is a human construct, made because we are too lazy to repeat nouns. Calling someone a "she" does not change the biological condition. Calling her a "he" does not alter her brain structure. If anything, they/them is worse, because in essence it violates grammatical principles...there are not two of her. You've just made the case for introducing multiple new sets of pronouns to the language, including for the genetically unusual, which is also insane and I think you would hate more.
 
Grace T. said:
You are arguing over a word which has no meaning. It is a human construct, made because we are too lazy to repeat nouns. Calling someone a "she" does not change the biological condition. Calling her a "he" does not alter her brain structure. If anything, they/them is worse, because in essence it violates grammatical principles...there are not two of her. You've just made the case for introducing multiple new sets of pronouns to the language, including for the genetically unusual, which is also insane and I think you would hate more.
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She=Female. The rest is utter BS. Why the full court press on the female. Woman cannot have a penis, end of the debate.
 
crush said:
She=Female. The rest is utter BS. Why the full court press on the female. Woman cannot have a penis, end of the debate.
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So your objection is the penis (BTW, didn't we agree on the term "snakes"?) Presumably after the penis is is gone "she" is o.k.?

A momentary diversion into the absurdity of the word "it". Firstly, the romance languages don't really use it...there is a female it and a male it....somehow a house is female and a car is male...last I recall the house didn't have it's penis excised. El, ella/esso,essa/ele, ela. Where one falls and the other one doesn't, is purely a human construction. Second, in English the use of the word "it" is very broad. It (haha!) can describe my dog, though my dog can also be described as "him". It can refer to a bridge, a house, a pencil, a planet, a star, something which isn't even physical like math, an idea, a story, or a feeling, and living things such as the tree, bacteria, fish, even birds. Curiously our line seems to be mammals. So why are mammals a he or a she but everything else is an "it"? Why aren't we all its? Why does our gender even need to be reflected in a pronoun, if the distinction is we are all human (or mammals) or we are all things. If it's just a shorthand, why distinguish between a man and a woman in the pronoun rather than just be human, or like the romance language ascribe male and female to pretty much everything??? Hope I made you at least go "hmmmmm".
 
Grace T. said:
So your objection is the penis (BTW, didn't we agree on the term "snakes"?) Presumably after the penis is is gone "she" is o.k.?

A momentary diversion into the absurdity of the word "it". Firstly, the romance languages don't really use it...there is a female it and a male it....somehow a house is female and a car is male...last I recall the house didn't have it's penis excised. El, ella/esso,essa/ele, ela. Where one falls and the other one doesn't, is purely a human construction. Second, in English the use of the word "it" is very broad. It (haha!) can describe my dog, though my dog can also be described as "him". It can refer to a bridge, a house, a pencil, a planet, a star, something which isn't even physical like math, an idea, a story, or a feeling, and living things such as the tree, bacteria, fish, even birds. Curiously our line seems to be mammals. So why are mammals a he or a she but everything else is an "it"? Why aren't we all its? Why does our gender even need to be reflected in a pronoun, if the distinction is we are all human (or mammals) or we are all things. If it's just a shorthand, why distinguish between a man and a woman in the pronoun rather than just be human, or like the romance language ascribe male and female to pretty much everything??? Hope I made you at least go "hmmmmm".
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I don't read your gobbledygook. No, he's a man, end of story for me and many others. ABC Good Morning America is calling him a she.
 
Grace T. said:
You’re just closed minded. Unlike you I’ve actually been through something somewhat similar. This is even more permanent of a change since you are basically redoing your public identity.
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I did think through it. Not one word of your argument is unique to sports. You could replace “sports” with “musical theatre”, “art club”, or “marching band”, and the argument would be exactly the same. It is “awfully hard” for athletes in exactly the same way that it is ”awfully hard” for anyone else in that situation.

More importantly, think through your numbers.

If Illinois only had 14 cases of mtf athletes deciding to play on a girls team, think about what that means. There are far, far more than 14 mtf trans kids in Illinois who like sports. If the nation has 25K teenage mtf athletes, then Illinois probably has around a thousand.

You‘re busy defending 14 Lia Thomas wanna-bes while ignoring the thousand kids who would benefit from a less confrontational solution.
 
dad4 said:
I did think through it. Not one word of your argument is unique to sports. You could replace “sports” with “musical theatre”, “art club”, or “marching band”, and the argument would be exactly the same. It is “awfully hard” for athletes in exactly the same way that it is ”awfully hard” for anyone else in that situation.

More importantly, think through your numbers.

If Illinois only had 14 cases of mtf athletes deciding to play on a girls team, think about what that means. There are far, far more than 14 mtf trans kids in Illinois who like sports. If the nation has 25K teenage mtf athletes, then Illinois probably has around a thousand.

You‘re busy defending 14 Lia Thomas wanna-bes while ignoring the thousand kids who would benefit from a less confrontational solution.
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1. So we agree on other activities? I agree equally as hard to go back. The only reason sports was singled out was because it’s the subject matter of our discussion. You were reading too much into that. I won’t call you out on reading comprehension on that one.
2. the 1000 athletes though runs against your argument. 1000 athletes in Illinois alone and the one you can point to as a problem is lia. The reality is most are overwhelming not a problem, probably for the reasons I previously suggested. That argues for a wholistic case by case approach with the downside of such a system being the possibility for repeated errors, arbitrariness and corruption.
3. “Less confrontational solution”. If fairness isn’t really at issue, it points again that you in particular have a morality qualm. Because otherwise my authoritarian detector is reading this as “a solution which I find less objectionable”. At best it’s circular reasoning, and worst it sounds a bit like your Covid position: why don’t you just shut up and be a good little girl?
 
Grace T. said:
You are sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “la la la la la”.
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Ps here’s another thought exercise. A person hits you over the head from behind knocking you out with a frying pan. You don’t see if male or female. Is that person an it? Or is he a he? Why should the default be male? Is it the patriarchy or the fact that a man is more likely to strike at you or did you toss a coin? What if you were fighting with your wife at the time? If he is he initially what magically changes when you find out your assailant is female?
 
Grace T. said:
Ps here’s another thought exercise. A person hits you over the head from behind knocking you out with a frying pan. You don’t see if male or female. Is that person an it? Or is he a he? Why should the default be male? Is it the patriarchy or the fact that a man is more likely to strike at you or did you toss a coin? What if you were fighting with your wife at the time? If he is he initially what magically changes when you find out your assailant is female?
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Pps why is Darth Vader a he? Didn’t Obi Wan specifically say he was more a machine than man now? Shouldn’t Vader be an it? Is it that Vader has a name? Or do we know for a fact the snake survived the fire?
 
Grace T. said:
Ps here’s another thought exercise. A person hits you over the head from behind knocking you out with a frying pan. You don’t see if male or female. Is that person an it? Or is he a he? Why should the default be male? Is it the patriarchy or the fact that a man is more likely to strike at you or did you toss a coin? What if you were fighting with your wife at the time? If he is he initially what magically changes when you find out your assailant is female?
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I would call that person a criminal and a asshat for hitting me from behind. IT will go to jail for assault. You are one messed up soul. Man, I'm shocked with you Grace T but you are the champion for the men who want to be a woman with a penis. That is some kinky sh*t. Is Lia a lesbian or does Lia go out with men? Also, can a Lesbian be trans? My lesbian best friend says no and what Lia and the other dude in Canada are 100% pretenders (her words, not mine) and it's about abuse of power. Some men worship their penis and think they can go around and show it to 13 year old girls in the locker room and pretend to be a grown woman. Are you Espola? I have to ask and it's just a guess. You could be EOTL as well. Play both sides. Lawyers are interesting creatures. They are masters at manipulation and play both sides of the fence real well and have no remorse or empathy. Where is that loser friend of yours who threaten my daughter?
 
crush said:
I would call that person a criminal and a asshat for hitting me from behind. IT will go to jail for assault. You are one messed up soul. Man, I'm shocked with you Grace T but you are the champion for the men who want to be a woman with a penis. That is some kinky sh*t. Is Lia a lesbian or does Lia go out with men? Also, can a Lesbian be trans? My lesbian best friend says no and what Lia and the other dude in Canada are 100% pretenders (her words, not mine) and it's about abuse of power. Some men worship their penis and think they can go around and show it to 13 year old girls in the locker room and pretend to be a grown woman. Are you Espola? I have to ask and it's just a guess. You could be EOTL as well. Play both sides. Lawyers are interesting creatures. They are masters at manipulation and play both sides of the fence real well and have no remorse or empathy. Where is that loser friend of yours who threaten my daughter?
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Here’s another one for you. Ships and rifles for some reason are female in English. The enterprise is a she. Interestingly countries can be a fatherland or motherland or homeland. But robots pick their identity.

data, Walle, and C-3PO use a male archetype. Interestingly data is at one point captures by a collector who insults him by using the pronoun it. But Eva and Lal are both female and choose a female archetype so use she. But then there’s the curious Case of r2d2. No penis, not noticeably male, no voice nor even noticeably a human shape. More like a walking tin can. But yet”he appears to have picked up a slight flutter”.
 
Grace T. said:
Here’s another one for you. Ships and rifles for some reason are female in English. The enterprise is a she. Interestingly countries can be a fatherland or motherland or homeland. But robots pick their identity.

data, Walle, and C-3PO use a male archetype. Interestingly data is at one point captures by a collector who insults him by using the pronoun it. But Eva and Lal are both female and choose a female archetype so use she. But then there’s the curious Case of r2d2. No penis, not noticeably male, no voice nor even noticeably a human shape. More like a walking tin can. But yet”he appears to have picked up a slight flutter”.
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From Trump just now....lol. I will make a copy of the recording when I get achance.
TRUMP: “I would be the greatest coach in history, I’d have a women’s team, I’d have all men... I don’t like LeBron, but I’d say ‘Hey LeBron, you ever think of becoming a woman? Because you’re gonna be on my team. We’re gonna go undefeated for the next 5 years’.”
 
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