Time to Play

MicPaPa said:
If you read one of my previous posts, I see outdoor sports with the protocols put in place by all of the soccer gods as very low risk based on what medical experts have learned about COVID to date. My argument is with people that are discussing death rates etc. when they are not considering the reality of the situation that we are in here in OC that will cause the Governor or Orange County to start shut downs because of hospital capacity issues.

Yes, most people don't die but many still need to be hospitalized to battle the illness. That is the issue. Capacity to deal with the fight.
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Sorry, "Government Officials and so-called experts" were silent or cheered on massive protests for weeks, then tell me outdoor youth sports practices and games are the danger... In my opinion, they've discredited themselves and lack standing.

I see the greater danger and risk as socially isolating kids for months on end.
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The kids playing outdoor sports at least with social distancing should have been the first release not the last because the risk of spread outdoors is less especially with social distancing. Of course they didn't know that until about a month ago. I am hoping with that insight they won't start shutting down youth sports first when they start clammoring to deal with the hospital capacity issue.
 
MicPaPa said:
I don't watch...do you recall what he, or his "experts", said about covid spread during weeks of massive protests?
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Nothing specifically said about protests and cause and effect that I've noticed more about numbers, hospital capacity, face masks, and the like but I'm just listening while doing other things same time.
 
Keepermom2 said:
Sorry, "Government Officials and so-called experts" were silent or cheered on massive protests for weeks, then tell me outdoor youth sports practices and games are the danger... In my opinion, they've discredited themselves and lack standing.

I see the greater danger and risk as socially isolating kids for months on end.
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The kids playing outdoor sports at least with social distancing should have been the first release not the last because the risk of spread outdoors is less especially with social distancing. Of course they didn't know that until about a month ago. I am hoping with that insight they won't start shutting down youth sports first when they start clammoring to deal with the hospital capacity issue.
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You do realize there have been significant hospital layoffs due to low capacity, right?
 
MSK357 said:
Details matter, are they asymptomatic? Did they die?
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It isn't about the kids dying...it is about the fact that they are or will become carriers that are asymptomatic. The capacity in hospitals will be what causes us to move to various levels of shut down. So even if you don't care about the 17% of the population that are greater than 65 years old or the 4% of the population that are immune compromised, there will still be an impact on society from a young asymptomatic person that is infected with COVID-19.
 
MicPaPa said:
I don't watch...do you recall what he, or his "experts", said about covid spread during weeks of massive protests?
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The BLM protests are a completely unnecessary risk, as are the anti-social distancing protests and the Trump rally at Tulsa. Gathering 1000 people together spreads disease, no matter what is on the sign you carry.

The CDC and NIH experts were politically constrained in what they could say. So they made up something about police brutality being a public health concern.

But all the protests and rallies definitely sent us backwards.
 
MicPaPa said:
The kids playing outdoor sports at least with social distancing should have been the first release not the last because the risk of spread outdoors is less especially with social distancing. Of course they didn't know that until about a month ago. I am hoping with that insight they won't start shutting down youth sports first when they start clammoring to deal with the hospital capacity issue.
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You do realize there have been significant hospital layoffs due to low capacity, right?
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That was over a month ago. Look at the numbers.
 
MSK357 said:
no, probably not. The news didnt tell him to.
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Did mention something about accountability at the local level regarding the budgets, if they don't follow guidance money may not flow to some that don't follow. Don't think it will come to you that but if it does there will be financial consequences was the just
 
jpeter said:
Nothing specifically said about protests and cause and effect that I've noticed more about numbers, hospital capacity, face masks, and the like but I'm just listening while doing other things same time.
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But, specifically cousins playing soccer is his concern.

I said it in the original post and I'll say it again...We're Being Played!
 
MicPaPa said:
Yes, details do matter...they are much more likely to die from flu picked up at training...I wonder if he thinks clubs should shut down during flu season.
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These girl had a slight temperature but parents thought it was just a cold and used there freedom to bring there child to training.
 
jpeter said:
Did mention something about accountability at the local level regarding the budgets, if they don't follow guidance money may not flow to some that don't follow. Don't think it will come to you that but if it does there will be financial consequences was the just
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Threatening us with our own tax dollars...Do you get it yet?
 
MicPaPa said:
Threatening us with our own tax dollars...Do you get it yet?
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I get it. They take our money and use it to force us to do things.

But I want them to. I don’t want my dad to die just because some idiot was too proud to wear a mask.
 
MicPaPa said:
But, specifically cousins playing soccer is his concern.

I said it in the original post and I'll say it again...We're Being Played!
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That one got my attention for sure, all of sudden to mention that was a surprise and makes be wonder some more.
 
dad4 said:
I get it. They take our money and use it to force us to do things.

But I want them to. I don’t want my dad to die just because some idiot was too proud to wear a mask.
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Then isolate your Dad and your family if you choose...I choose not to put family lives in the hands of "idiot" government officials who were silent or encouraged millions of "idiots" too proud to wear a mask in the streets for weeks on end.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you had nothing to say about your Dad during the protest discussions you participated in, right?
 
Keepermom2 said:
It isn't about the kids dying...it is about the fact that they are or will become carriers that are asymptomatic. The capacity in hospitals will be what causes us to move to various levels of shut down. So even if you don't care about the 17% of the population that are greater than 65 years old or the 4% of the population that are immune compromised, there will still be an impact on society from a young asymptomatic person that is infected with COVID-19.
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Right, so if we keep our asymptomatic kids away from the immune compromised and the elderly with underlying conditions, whats the big deal? like i said. I dont plan on hanging out with people over 65+ in poor health. I'll wear the mask in public places indoors. Those at risk should do their best to stay away from the rest of us as well and wear masks. The more people that are healthy and have very low risk of developing symptoms should be free to be around each other, go to school, work, play sports. At this point that is the best way of developing an immunity leading to herd immunity. I dont plan on coughing in anyones face after a watching my kids play soccer if that's what you are afraid of.
 
dad4 said:
I get it. They take our money and use it to force us to do things.

But I want them to. I don’t want my dad to die just because some idiot was too proud to wear a mask.
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quarantine him. If he gets sick, you were probably idiot that didnt wear the mask.
 
MSK357 said:
Right, so if we keep our asymptomatic kids away from the immune compromised and the elderly with underlying conditions, whats the big deal? like i said. I dont plan on hanging out with people over 65+ in poor health. I'll wear the mask in public places indoors. Those at risk should do their best to stay away from the rest of us as well and wear masks. The more people that are healthy and have very low risk of developing symptoms should be free to be around each other, go to school, work, play sports. At this point that is the best way of developing an immunity leading to herd immunity. I dont plan on coughing in anyones face after a watching my kids play soccer if that's what you are afraid of.
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Yep...Pretty much what He(?) said.
 
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