Bruddah IZ
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Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.
Henry Rosovsky
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Bruddah IZ
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Something NEW and theoretical? Is that what hooked you on CRT?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Race can be discussed as a social reality with a biological component. The consequences of that social reality have been very serious, however, and continue to be so. So are the consequences of the fallacies surrounding race. Among these fallacies are that race was the basis of slavery, and that racism is the main reason for black-white differences in incomes and in all the other aspects of life that depend on income. Moreover, there is often an implicit assumption that racism and discrimination are so closely linked that they go up or down together, when in fact as we shall see, some times and places with more racism have been known to have less discrimination— and discrimination can exist without racism. Lurking in the background of some discussions of race is the question whether races differ in innate intelligence, a question that has generated fallacies among those on both sides of this issue.
It has often been common to compare a given group, such as blacks in the United States, with the national average and regard the differences as showing a special peculiarity of the group being compared, or a special peculiarity of policies or attitudes towards that group. But either conclusion can be misleading when the national average itself is just an amalgamation of wide variations among many ethnic, regional and other groups. While the black and white populations of the United States have long differed in various economic and social variables— in income, years of schooling, life expectancy, unemployment rates, crime rates, and scores on a variety of tests— so have other groups differed widely from one another and from the national average in countries around the world.
One of the most overlooked, but important, differences among groups are their ages. The median age of black Americans is five years younger than the median age (35) of the American population as a whole, but blacks are by no means unique in having a median age different from the national average or from the ages of other groups. Among Asian Americans, the median age ranges from 43 for Japanese Americans to 24 for Americans of Cambodian ancestry to 16 for those of Hmong ancestry. Incomes are highly correlated with age, with young people usually beginning their working lives earning much less than older and more experienced workers. Therefore gross comparisons of incomes among racial or ethnic groups can be misleading when the median ages of groups can differ by a decade or even a quarter of a century. Nor are age differences the only differences among Asian Americans. While 61 percent of Japanese Americans were born in the United States, less than a third of the Asian Americans of Chinese, Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean, or Asian Indian ancestry were.5 Native-born citizens are obviously more familiar with the opportunities available in the society and better able to take advantage of those opportunities.
Educational differences are likewise as great among American ethnic minorities as they are between minorities and the larger population. Although Hispanics have overtaken blacks numerically as part of the population, blacks still receive more doctorates than Hispanics. While the Asian American population is only a fraction of the size of either the black or the Hispanic population, Asian Americans receive more doctorates than Hispanics and nearly as many as blacks. In short, an even distribution of groups is by no means common, whether in age, education, or other characteristics.
The United States is by no means unique in the nature or magnitude of economic or social differences among racial or ethnic groups. Income differences between the Chinese and Malay populations of Malaysia, for example, have long been greater than income differences between blacks and whites in the United States. So have economic differences between different tribes in Nigeria or between Asians and Africans in East Africa.
Various groups around the world have differed in everything from alcohol consumption per capita to IQs. Indeed, differences have been the norm and identical economic or social outcomes have been the exception. That is why singling out any given group for comparison with the national average can be misleading if it suggests that the situation of the group in question is peculiar, rather than being part of a worldwide pattern of wide variations from group to group. This is not to say that intergroup differences don't matter. Some of these differences matter greatly.
What are the reasons behind these disparities? Perhaps a more fundamental question might be: What reason was there to expect these groups to be the same in the first place? Geography, demography, history and culture have all differed among groups in countries around the world
From the Great Thomas Sowell's Economic Facts and Fallacies
Desert Hound
DA
There are basically 2 espolas on this board.
On the actual soccer side you actually have a back and forth. You present ideas, clarify topics.
On the more political side of the board you rarely have an idea.
More than one person on this page has given the reasons what they don't like about CRT. You on the other hand refuse to articulate what you find so endearing.
Try to be more like the espola who provides some useful insights on the soccer side of the forum, instead of being essentially on this side..."link please"
I have an idea that you don't know what CRT is. I have given you plenty of opportunities to show that you do, but so far nothing.
Based on your latest excrement, I now suspect that you don't know that Ontario is in Canada.
Australia having a harder time tapping down things this time despite the harsher-than-USA lockdowns.....
"...thirty-four of them spending time in the community while infectious" doesn't sound like much of a lockdown.
Add to that the fact that Aust5ralia's full-vaccination rate is about 10% -- what did they )or you) think was going to happen?
Desert Hound
DA
And that is your classic answer. You refuse to state your position and what you like about it. I and others have stated our positions and why.
You are seemingly incapable of having a back and forth on this or most topics in this particular thread.
People are evading the lockdown by leaving the house under the exercise exception. Nsw announced the step this morning that police will random stop to check Id to make sure you are not going more than 10km. People are also evading the lockdown with the dog walking exceptions. They are considering restricting dogs to no more than immediately outside the premises which has some apartment dwellers complaining.
((Apologies for the typos, but my edit time ran out))
So you agree with me.
I’m actually surprised it’s not more out of control…..australia has been successful to date with its measures and even dad4 is a fan despite the very draconian intrusions and repeated need to shut everything down. Taiwan might just might still get things under control but it’s also requiring big efforts this time around.
Not much to agree with as you refuse to state a position (hey why does that sound familiar) and only go round and round with your Schtick.
Allow me to unlock your reading comprehension problem: my statement "doesn't sound like much of a lockdown" was taking a position in opposition to your statement of "harsher-than-USA lockdowns". I was pleased to see that you sort of agreed with me -- or is that over your head also?
Meanwhile here in the USA, all we have to worry about is covid deniers and traditional anti-vaxxers, such as the attendees at the Southern Baptist Convention recently --
Southern Baptist Convention sparks small COVID-19 cluster in Nashville
The Southern Baptist Convention gathering was the first large-scale conference in Nashville since it lifted coronavirus restrictions on gatherings.
www.tennessean.com
It's still too soon to tell about the impact of the denial and resistance exhibited among the speakers at the Dallas CPAC (which I have seen called "Cray-cray PAC" in several places online today).
Just to help with your education -- that is pure ad hominem. Maybe you didn't know that.
whatithink
GOLD
That principle seems weird to me also, but I don't know how Mathematics is taught north of the border. That said, the other seven principles seem to align perfectly with your preferred focus, i.e. "on teaching skills in school". The principles aren't ranked, so I'd assume they have equal rank. Given there are seven others, I'd expect this isn't the main focus.
Another phrase in the article also struck me as odd, i.e. (my bold) "Research indicates that there are groups of students (for example, Indigenous students, Black students, students experiencing homelessness, students living in poverty, students with LGBTQ+ identities, and students with special education needs and disabilities) who continue to experience systemic barriers to accessing high-level instruction in and support with learning mathematics."
If the examples were just students experiencing homelessness, students living in poverty, and students with special education needs and disabilities, then I'd get it. There's no link to the research, so no way of telling why the other 3 examples needed specific highlighting, as against impacted Indigenous, Black & LGBTQ+ students being already included in the aforementioned groups.
"doesn't sound like much of a lockdown" isn't a position on anything. I took it as your usual flippant observation (which you laughably call "fact checking"). But if you are actually going to argue the Australian lockdowns were less severe than the US ones, then please do tell, because dad 4 seems to have admired the Australian lockdowned and bemoaned why we didn't have them here. The Australian lockdowns have involved, among other things, restrictions on travel between the provinces and the suppression of protests (both BLM and antilockdown ones).
Desert Hound
DA
Well actually just a few weeks ago we were talking about this in relation to math being taught in and around the SF area. They want to teach math with equity in mind, racism, etc. All things that really have nothing to do with teaching mathematics.
So my example is not something that is just seen outside of the US. You are seeing the focus change in a variety of areas around the US...and our kids will be worse off for it.
Desert Hound
DA
And here the New Yorker gets around to admitting what we have known for a long time. Kids have no risk.
The problem we had and still have is:
"The country’s whole risk profile has changed. But our intuitions about risk tolerance haven’t — at least not yet."
Which is why you get the idiocy of telling kids to wear masks this coming school year. I suspect it won't just be masks either. Bet on a large number of safety policies put in places in school, that have nothing to do with actual safety but will make things more restrictive on kids and activities.
The problem we had and still have is:
"The country’s whole risk profile has changed. But our intuitions about risk tolerance haven’t — at least not yet."
Which is why you get the idiocy of telling kids to wear masks this coming school year. I suspect it won't just be masks either. Bet on a large number of safety policies put in places in school, that have nothing to do with actual safety but will make things more restrictive on kids and activities.