Bad News Thread
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Desert Hound
DA
More food for thought.
"Over to NPR, which reports, “On rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others.” What does rare occasions mean? This is supposed to be, you know, science, so we finally get some numbers from the CDC: Out of 159 million fully vaccinated people, the CDC documented 5,914 cases of fully vaccinated people who were hospitalized or died from Covid-19, and 75 percent of them were over age 65. That means only 0.0000037 percent of vaxxed people were hospitalized or died, most of them elderly. That is a very small number. It is a lot less than one percent and a lot less than rare. Chances of dying in a car wreck are many tens of thousands of times higher and yet we drive on."
Think about the above STAT.
Now explain to me why we play safety theater?
"Over to NPR, which reports, “On rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others.” What does rare occasions mean? This is supposed to be, you know, science, so we finally get some numbers from the CDC: Out of 159 million fully vaccinated people, the CDC documented 5,914 cases of fully vaccinated people who were hospitalized or died from Covid-19, and 75 percent of them were over age 65. That means only 0.0000037 percent of vaxxed people were hospitalized or died, most of them elderly. That is a very small number. It is a lot less than one percent and a lot less than rare. Chances of dying in a car wreck are many tens of thousands of times higher and yet we drive on."
Think about the above STAT.
Now explain to me why we play safety theater?
If seems the media is running a narrative that vaccines are overrated and masks are underrated. They don't use those words explicitly but their coverage clearly leaves that strong impression.Now I pointed this out before. @dad4 made the claim that the vaxxed have lower loads to transmit. Well that is not what the CDC is saying.
So I ask again...and others should. What is the point of showing a vaxx passport? Trick question. There is none. It is pointless safety theater. Something we need to say enough of.
"The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated person from transmitting the infection or the delta variant. According to Director Walensky, the only benefit from the vaccine now is presumably that it reduces the severity of symptoms.
If a vaccinated and non-vaccinated person have the same capacity to carry, shed and transmit the virus – with or without symptoms – then what difference does a vaccination passport or vaccination ID make?
According to the CDC TODAY, both the vaxxed and non-vaxxed person walking into a restaurant, store, group, venue or workplace present the exact same risk to other people there, so how does the presentation of proof of vaccine make any difference?"
CDC Director Makes Case Vaccination Passports are Futile, Vaccines Do Not Prevent COVID Infection or Delta Variant Transmission - The Last Refuge
They are just making up narratives now, and the media are not calling them out on it…. The Director of the CDC made an important admission during an interview today on CNN. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated the vaccine does not prevent COVID-19 infection, nor does it stop the vaccinated...theconservativetreehouse.com
You know what the media doesn't talk about? Therapeutics gets zero mention in the MSM. Obviously they're very effective if the rate of deaths in relation to cases is not moving. That, or the Delta isn't that fatal. So which is it and why won't the media mention it? (That's a rhetorical question)
Have there been any changes in therapeutics during the course of the pandemic? (That's not a rhetorical question)
Bruddah IZ
DA
Yes.
They're going to have a very short season.
Something seems odd about all this. Basically, if you want to ball hear you knead to get jabbed twice and forever as long as you attend our great private school where we make kids take experimental experiences to a hole knew level. We wont play you either if you have a player that is non jabbed. You guys can have sports too. WAFJATI. I mean, WTFCSWIH? Elitist can have private schools too and their stupid waivers.
Desert Hound
DA
Why?
72 million in the US under 18. 350 or so deaths in that age group.
There is NO rational reason to boycott any school. The risk profile of activities with other school who are vaxxed does not change at ALL if they play other schools who are not fully vaxxed.
Bruddah IZ
DA
End Game: Keep Larry Elder out of office.
The list of schools requiring the vaccine for at least high contact athletics is rumored to be getting not insignificant.
Foxnews Headline:
Bernie's last days in Jail. He got two toes whacked off and then some nurse is giving us the down low on his last days alone in prison for cheating.
A week before Madoff died, the disgraced former financier reportedly screamed for assistance. When a nurse arrived, Madoff stared at the floor and wiggled his foot while yelling "Help! I hate this f–king place!," according to prison records obtained by Market Watch.
When the nurse told Madoff to stop yelling because he was disturbing other inmates, Madoff replied, "F–k them!"
The nurse then reportedly told Madoff to stop cursing and asked him what was wrong.
Madoff's hallucinations became so severe that at one point he thought he saw a bird in a guard's pocket, while on other occasions he believed people were lurking in his room at night.
Doctor's noted that he had appeared to reach the "terminal cliff" and transitioned him to a morphine drip. He died on April 14 of end-stage renal failure.
Bernie's last days in Jail. He got two toes whacked off and then some nurse is giving us the down low on his last days alone in prison for cheating.
A week before Madoff died, the disgraced former financier reportedly screamed for assistance. When a nurse arrived, Madoff stared at the floor and wiggled his foot while yelling "Help! I hate this f–king place!," according to prison records obtained by Market Watch.
When the nurse told Madoff to stop yelling because he was disturbing other inmates, Madoff replied, "F–k them!"
The nurse then reportedly told Madoff to stop cursing and asked him what was wrong.
Madoff's hallucinations became so severe that at one point he thought he saw a bird in a guard's pocket, while on other occasions he believed people were lurking in his room at night.
Doctor's noted that he had appeared to reach the "terminal cliff" and transitioned him to a morphine drip. He died on April 14 of end-stage renal failure.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
My read. A) Fig1. Despite increase in R0, prevalence throughout population is lower with delta and they are probably on the back side of the wave. The lower amplitude is good news. B) Fig2. Delta cases decidedly shifted to younger persons with lower vaxx frequencies. C) Fig5 and 6. Deaths show a strong deflection from cases (keep in mind y-axis graphs is log). Remarkably, the strongest deflection is in the most vulnerable and heavily vaxxed demographic, 65 and over. That's what the vaccine was designed to do. D) Tables with odds ratios and VE. Straight up running the numbers, 3X less likely to be case+ if vaxxed. If bin for PCR Ct scores most likely to be reflective of biologically relevant infections in the <65 age group, VE is 60%. Would it be nice if VE in this demographic was still upper 80% like for alpha? Sure, but given the viral load with delta that might be asking a lot, either for vaxx or infection acquired immunity. But if your intuition tells you this is somehow a disaster, you might want to recalibrate. Realistically, this is about as good as one could expect. As long as the amplitude of the waves keeps converging on some viral equilibrium asymptote and a new susceptible population does not emerge that's best outcome can hope for. And for me, that's a reasonable interpretation of the UK data with delta.
Is BS!!!!!
Agree given viral loads of delta it’s a good result. But it’s a disaster for those who were hoping the vaccines would make it just away.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
some of your posts you seem conscientious about what you eat. The food you put into your body. it's your life but I think you could probably be at least as conscientious about the stuff you put in your mind. seriously where do you get some of this crap that you post? who sends it to you? it's poison. or maybe a social media performance art.
72 Hours Non-Stop
Honest question to all my smart forum pals. I know most of you have more than one degree and I know for a FACT lawyers are on here. I would like to know if anyone is going to watch My Pillow Founder and former crack addict Mike Lindell prove cheating happen at last years election by showing "Packet captures" ((Check Q drop 1839. 3 year Delta)) and how, why, where, when and who pulled off the heist. Why did all the cheaters cheat when the Military was watching live? Desperate times cause for desperate measures and foolish and stupid moves. Also, does anyone know anyone, who is anyone, of importance trying for the $5,000,000 cash prize to prove Mike and his team wrong?
Not CNN or Fox Evil Goalie, that's for damn sure!!! I have my back against the wall. No jab, no service. I don't like it when people accuse me of being a drunk driver when I dont drink. All we/you/everyone need's to do is stop eating meat and eat veggies, fruits and nuts. Is that too hard for you? If you want all the entertainment, meat lover meals everyday, heart burn and the attack to the heart, GTFA. Blaming the rise of the fake Delta on me is bullshit. I know the facts. I will stop you all day liar!!!