Spain Women and thoughts on ECNL

Interesting thought experiments - but as far as I can tell some of them are so divorced from reality that it's unlikely. Goalie punt bans & 5 passes before goal may be able to be implemented, it's just unlikely to catch on. Basketball does some similar things for the youngers, for example not allowing a young team to press - sometimes throughout the game, sometimes all but the last quarter, etc. The intent is to keep a strong team from entirely preventing another team from even learning enough to get to offense - instead of being pressured to the extent that they aren't actually learning anything useful in their own backcourt.

I do squint a bit at all of the recommendations to focus on development over winning. Of course that's the end goal, the primary goal, etc. But raise your hand if you yourself kept your soccer-crazed kid on a losing team for more than a year or two. It's like there's this belief that there are all of these teams that are doing incredible development work but end up with teams with terrible records - and more enlightened parents should be choosing those instead of teams/coaches that are winning - but winning the "wrong" way. Would be great to highlight some (or any) such clubs/teams - because I'm not sure they actually exist.

Because what I have seen instead - over quite a few years of this silliness with multiple kids and various teams, leagues, and even sports, is that if a team is consistently losing the team will fail to exist in a year or two. Whether you ride it to the end as the rosters completely turn over every season, or are the first ones out the door - the end result is the same - there aren't ever going to be enough players to stick around as a cohesive unit to learn/grow/mature on a consistently losing team, perhaps unless geography/logistics means there are really zero other options.

I fully understand, and have experienced, that there are clubs/teams who aren't fully optimizing for wins at all costs - to promote development of many/all players instead - and these are probably where you'd want to end up if given various options. It's just that those same teams/clubs/coaches, are usually quite successful (even when judged small-mindedly only by wins), even without such a focus or optimization for wins.
The "Build out" line is already a thing for ulittles so goalies not being able to punt until 11v11 isn't that big of a deal.

Top teams already implement 5 passes before shooting when they're blowing out a competitor.

Only one goal per player per game would drive parents and coaches insane. But, it would also highlight the player that scored for recruiters. It would prevent the boot it up to the big fast kid teams from winning.

Teams swapping half their players before a game would dramatically make everyone playing better. Now not only are players being forced to play against players that they're not used to (which is the why we play games against other teams) they're also being forced to play with players that they're not used to. This is what's going to happen anyway (play with and against players they're not used to) if they play in college or pro might as well get players used to it when they're young.

The teams swapping half their players concept also diffuses concerns from both teams that if they play one will gain while the other potentially loses a ranking. Would drive the pay to play parents and win at all costs people nuts.
 
The "Build out" line is already a thing for ulittles so goalies not being able to punt until 11v11 isn't that big of a deal.

Top teams already implement 5 passes before shooting when they're blowing out a competitor.

Only one goal per player per game would drive parents and coaches insane. But, it would also highlight the player that scored for recruiters. It would prevent the boot it up to the big fast kid teams from winning.

Teams swapping half their players before a game would dramatically make everyone playing better. Now not only are players being forced to play against players that they're not used to (which is the why we play games against other teams) they're also being forced to play with players that they're not used to. This is what's going to happen anyway (play with and against players they're not used to) if they play in college or pro might as well get players used to it when they're young.

The teams swapping half their players concept also diffuses concerns from both teams that if they play one will gain while the other potentially loses a ranking. Would drive the pay to play parents and win at all costs people nuts.
My buddy and I went through our licenses together and had our kids start club soccer together. When they put the build out line in place, he swore to me that it would convince coaches once and for all that kick ball was dumb and the year after the first squads were aged out of the build out line, they'd never go back to punting again. We made a bet. I said his position was nonsense and as soon as you took off the line, they'd go back to their old ways. I still have that bottle of scotch on my shelf.
 
As a coach wins equal $$$ and more players. When you're talking about youngers the biggest ones that sexually mature first get picked first.

For parents being on the top team equals the most gratification in the sewing circle. Also, because clubs drop and gain new players every year via tryouts it makes everyone crazy.

Combine both and you get the situation we have today with the USWNT.

The only way I can see that things change is if leagues or tournaments implement serious changes to the rules.

Things like...
- No goalie punts until 11v11
- 5 passes before shots on goal
- Only one goal per player. (once they score they have to wear a penny)
- Each coach gives half of their players to the other team before the game and has to figure out how to win. (Or make it more fun have a shootout before the game + whoever misses their shot has to play with the other team.)

The idea is to focus on team play vs individual effort. Different kids develop at different rates + in the end team play will provide more players more opportunities to become top talent.
Hoosiers Futbol Style Grace. Gene Hackman taught those boys how to move the ball around without scoring. I liken futbol more like dancing with a ball and then running. I chased the medals, I confess. How on earth did they know that a dad like me would drive anywhere to win a championship.
 
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My buddy and I went through our licenses together and had our kids start club soccer together. When they put the build out line in place, he swore to me that it would convince coaches once and for all that kick ball was dumb and the year after the first squads were aged out of the build out line, they'd never go back to punting again. We made a bet. I said his position was nonsense and as soon as you took off the line, they'd go back to their old ways. I still have that bottle of scotch on my shelf.
Surf was the only team in Socal playing possession futbol when my little one was balling. Is that still the case? I remember watching them pass from the back and no punts allowed. We spanked Earthquakes and proved to the country that possession is not only fun and safe, but it wins natty. We were #1 in the country after all the parents came together to chase a medal together in 2016-2017 season. The players were first developed into a passing player, or they sit on the bench. Then the player is taught 2 touch or pass and if you don;t you come out. It also takes team chemistry, with the hardwork and sacrifice to develop a winner and the reward of the Natty. My dd team won the Lamar Hunt Soccer Natty. Oldest Soccer Trophy in our Country. Messi is playing for one.
 
Getting back on topic, change needs to come from top down (US Soccer needing to commit long term to changing their style of play) and from bottom up (parents over-the-top desire to win and collect trophies).

I spoke with a coach and he was saying how youngers parents are getting worse each year and demanding wins...otherwise they jump ship for other clubs that are winning trophies. Consequently coaches are changing their style to play more direct (more effective for wins at youngers age).
The loss of our USWNT in the World Cup puts us in a position where the influence of the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” crowd is diminished. It’s an opportunity to implement change. At the very least, bring in a leader who is willing to identify our developmental shortcomings and articulate a workable solution. Create videos of training “games” to develop these skills. Let everyone know that when they come into a USYNT camp that this type of training will be an important part of player evaluation. It’s a start that is easy and cheap.
 
The loss of our USWNT in the World Cup puts us in a position where the influence of the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” crowd is diminished. It’s an opportunity to implement change. At the very least, bring in a leader who is willing to identify our developmental shortcomings and articulate a workable solution. Create videos of training “games” to develop these skills. Let everyone know that when they come into a USYNT camp that this type of training will be an important part of player evaluation. It’s a start that is easy and cheap.
A true leader that answers to no one and is not bought, is hard to find. What is a True Leader? Simply put, a true leader leads by example, fostering strong relationships with individuals (no pay for play with politics and kickbacks with rich dads driving the car) and teams alike and ensuring that all reach their full potential while, importantly, achieving organizational goals.
 
On Youtube If you type in;
FC Barcelona U15 v LAFC Slammers U15 Full Match

You can watch Barcelona's Academy team and LAFC (Koge Slammers) from a few years ago. Please do not take this wrong as I know several of the players and families on this Koge team. It's not to disparage them but rather just to show the contrast of play at the youth level. As you know this is the Koge team who won two ECNL championships and is filled with youth national team players and division 1 players.
Good video.

A rather interesting difference in playing styles.

This is what the other countries are teaching their youth players.

It is going to get tough.
 
My buddy and I went through our licenses together and had our kids start club soccer together. When they put the build out line in place, he swore to me that it would convince coaches once and for all that kick ball was dumb and the year after the first squads were aged out of the build out line, they'd never go back to punting again. We made a bet. I said his position was nonsense and as soon as you took off the line, they'd go back to their old ways. I still have that bottle of scotch on my shelf.
The build-out line was a silly attempt to accomplish better coaching by doing what they could -- change the rules.
 
Good video.

A rather interesting difference in playing styles.

This is what the other countries are teaching their youth players.

It is going to get tough.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see how Onyeka progresses on their B team. Honing the technical and tactical abilities with her superior athleticism and speed it's going to be fun to watch her develop. I think it's just a matter of time before she makes it to the top team and is an impact player.
 
On Youtube If you type in;
FC Barcelona U15 v LAFC Slammers U15 Full Match

You can watch Barcelona's Academy team and LAFC (Koge Slammers) from a few years ago. Please do not take this wrong as I know several of the players and families on this Koge team. It's not to disparage them but rather just to show the contrast of play at the youth level. As you know this is the Koge team who won two ECNL championships and is filled with youth national team players and division 1 players.
I think the Barcelona v PDA game was even worse. PDA looked awful...ECNL kick ball at its finest.

The US does have the ability to play good soccer right now from the youth to senior teams. San Jose Earthquakes 04's were a good example of this:
2019 Development Academy Finals: U15 Girls Final - Colorado Rush vs. San Jose Earthquakes
 
It just takes a conscious effort to play a better way with the right coaches and players. We need to acknowledge that only playing direct at the youngers ages is bad and call out those clubs that do this (and we all know which clubs do this).
 
I think the Barcelona v PDA game was even worse. PDA looked awful...ECNL kick ball at its finest.

The US does have the ability to play good soccer right now from the youth to senior teams. San Jose Earthquakes 04's were a good example of this:
2019 Development Academy Finals: U15 Girls Final - Colorado Rush vs. San Jose Earthquakes
Let's not leave out the National Champs Surf 04s possession team in 2016/2017. We beat those 04 Earthquakes. That game I think had 10 future YNT players. It was Epic and Surf won 2-0. It was a passing and keep away clinic until our coach did a full court, sneak press and we caught them off guard and with that win, we locked up being the undisputed #1 team in the country from SoCal. It's a medal that I chased with my hard earn money and time and you bet I will brag about that year and that victory any time I can.
 
I think the Barcelona v PDA game was even worse. PDA looked awful...ECNL kick ball at its finest.

The US does have the ability to play good soccer right now from the youth to senior teams. San Jose Earthquakes 04's were a good example of this:
2019 Development Academy Finals: U15 Girls Final - Colorado Rush vs. San Jose Earthquakes
They were great. I recall watching them play in that Adidas sponsored event at Avanta stadium. And StubHub.
Speaking of Quakes Sophie Jones followed
Deza there from DeAnza Force. Great tactical and technical player.
 
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So now that we all pretty much know the root of the problem within the US soccer system. What type of soccer do you think should be taught in the USA. Would everyone agree that youth teams should be learning possesion soccer or is it some other style. Here is the list of all the styles.

Soccer Styles and Philosophies:

  1. Direct Play or Route One Football:
    • A strategy that prioritizes quickly moving the ball from defense to attack, often bypassing the midfield with long balls. It aims to exploit spaces behind defenses or capitalize on physically dominant forwards. Features include an emphasis on long balls, set pieces, and robust physical play.
  2. Counter-Attacking:
    • Teams defend deep, cede possession, and look to exploit the opposition during quick transitions. The goal is to capitalize on spaces left by the opposing team when they are in an attacking formation. It's characterized by rapid transitions, quick forward passes, and pacey attackers.
  3. Pressing:
    • A strategy where teams exert pressure on the opposition high up the pitch, especially immediately after losing possession. The aim is to win back the ball quickly and exploit spaces before the opposition reorganizes. It's about high energy, teamwork, and coordinated movement, with variations like Gegenpressing, High Press, and Mid-block Press.
  4. Tiki-Taka:
    • Originating from Spain, this style is associated with short, intricate passes and abundant player movement. The aim is to control tempo and break down defenses with rapid passes and movements. It emphasizes technique, player understanding, and maintaining possession.
  5. Catenaccio:
    • An Italian defensive approach where teams prioritize defense and look to score via counter-attacks or set-pieces. It often features a sweeper or 'libero' behind the main defensive line.
  6. Total Football:
    • Associated with 1970s Dutch football, where players are fluid in their positions and interchange roles. It creates a dynamic team structure that adapts to various in-match situations. It requires versatile players familiar with multiple positions.
  7. Samba Football:
    • A style synonymous with Brazilian soccer, emphasizing flair, skill, and creativity. It celebrates individual skill and creativity within the team structure, with dribbling, flair, and an expressive style of play.
  8. Positional Play:
    • Often seen as a modern evolution of "Total Football," this approach emphasizes the organization of players in space to create overloads and manipulate the opposition. The primary goal is to break down defensive structures by manipulating player positions and the ball. It's about structuring the team to maximize space and passing options, often seen in conjunction with pressing tactics, especially the high press.
  9. Possession Soccer:
    • This style emphasizes retaining control of the ball for extended periods. The primary objective is to control the game's tempo, limit the opponent's chances, and patiently find scoring opportunities. It's both an offensive and defensive tactic: offensively to methodically break down opponents and defensively to limit opponents' attacking opportunities by monopolizing the ball. Tiki-Taka can be viewed as a subset of this style, with added emphasis on rapid, short passes.

In my opinion U10 and under we teach possesion soccer. After that I would choose positional play because it require thinknig and tactics versus possesion is much simpler to learn.

  1. Possession Soccer:
    • Concept: As previously mentioned, this style of play prioritizes retaining control of the ball for extended periods. The primary objective is to keep the ball, sometimes even at the expense of directly attacking or penetrating the opposition defense.
    • Purpose: The aim is to tire out the opposition, control the tempo of the game, and limit the opposition's scoring chances. It’s about dominance through ball control.
    • Notable Examples: Several teams have been known for possession soccer, but the prime example remains Pep Guardiola's FC Barcelona. However, it's worth noting that Guardiola's teams also heavily incorporated elements of positional play.
    • Features: Emphasis on short passes, recycling possession, and patience in finding openings.
  2. Positional Play(or Juego de Posición):
    • Concept: While it may involve retaining possession, positional play is more focused on the organization of players in space. The primary goal is to create superiorities (numerical, positional, and qualitative) around the ball, ensuring that there are always passing options and that the team can progress up the field in a structured manner.
    • Purpose: The objective is to break down defensive structures by manipulating the position of the ball, the players, and the opposition. It's about creating spaces and passing lanes, and exploiting them.
    • Notable Examples: Many of the best modern teams, including those coached by Pep Guardiola (at Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and Manchester City), have utilized the principles of positional play.
    • Features: Structured player positioning, creating triangles and diamonds in possession to offer multiple passing lanes, stretching and manipulating opposition defenses, ensuring width and depth in play, and switching the point of attack to exploit space.
In essence, while both possession soccer and positional play involve having the ball for significant periods, their primary purposes differ. Possession soccer is more about ball retention, while positional play is about structuring the team in a way that maximizes space and passing options to break down the opposition. Positional play is often seen as a more proactive and advanced application of possession-based principles, with the purpose of actively seeking to disorganize the opposing team. Positional play requires a much more mature soccer player and it would be difficult to teach kids. But imo it's #1 because of all the numerical advantages it can provide in all the sections of the pitch if executed properly.
 
So now that we all pretty much know the root of the problem within the US soccer system. What type of soccer do you think should be taught in the USA. Would everyone agree that youth teams should be learning possesion soccer or is it some other style. Here is the list of all the styles.

Soccer Styles and Philosophies:

  1. Direct Play or Route One Football:
    • A strategy that prioritizes quickly moving the ball from defense to attack, often bypassing the midfield with long balls. It aims to exploit spaces behind defenses or capitalize on physically dominant forwards. Features include an emphasis on long balls, set pieces, and robust physical play.
  2. Counter-Attacking:
    • Teams defend deep, cede possession, and look to exploit the opposition during quick transitions. The goal is to capitalize on spaces left by the opposing team when they are in an attacking formation. It's characterized by rapid transitions, quick forward passes, and pacey attackers.
  3. Pressing:
    • A strategy where teams exert pressure on the opposition high up the pitch, especially immediately after losing possession. The aim is to win back the ball quickly and exploit spaces before the opposition reorganizes. It's about high energy, teamwork, and coordinated movement, with variations like Gegenpressing, High Press, and Mid-block Press.
  4. Tiki-Taka:
    • Originating from Spain, this style is associated with short, intricate passes and abundant player movement. The aim is to control tempo and break down defenses with rapid passes and movements. It emphasizes technique, player understanding, and maintaining possession.
  5. Catenaccio:
    • An Italian defensive approach where teams prioritize defense and look to score via counter-attacks or set-pieces. It often features a sweeper or 'libero' behind the main defensive line.
  6. Total Football:
    • Associated with 1970s Dutch football, where players are fluid in their positions and interchange roles. It creates a dynamic team structure that adapts to various in-match situations. It requires versatile players familiar with multiple positions.
  7. Samba Football:
    • A style synonymous with Brazilian soccer, emphasizing flair, skill, and creativity. It celebrates individual skill and creativity within the team structure, with dribbling, flair, and an expressive style of play.
  8. Positional Play:
    • Often seen as a modern evolution of "Total Football," this approach emphasizes the organization of players in space to create overloads and manipulate the opposition. The primary goal is to break down defensive structures by manipulating player positions and the ball. It's about structuring the team to maximize space and passing options, often seen in conjunction with pressing tactics, especially the high press.
  9. Possession Soccer:
    • This style emphasizes retaining control of the ball for extended periods. The primary objective is to control the game's tempo, limit the opponent's chances, and patiently find scoring opportunities. It's both an offensive and defensive tactic: offensively to methodically break down opponents and defensively to limit opponents' attacking opportunities by monopolizing the ball. Tiki-Taka can be viewed as a subset of this style, with added emphasis on rapid, short passes.

In my opinion U10 and under we teach possesion soccer. After that I would choose positional play because it require thinknig and tactics versus possesion is much simpler to learn.

  1. Possession Soccer:
    • Concept: As previously mentioned, this style of play prioritizes retaining control of the ball for extended periods. The primary objective is to keep the ball, sometimes even at the expense of directly attacking or penetrating the opposition defense.
    • Purpose: The aim is to tire out the opposition, control the tempo of the game, and limit the opposition's scoring chances. It’s about dominance through ball control.
    • Notable Examples: Several teams have been known for possession soccer, but the prime example remains Pep Guardiola's FC Barcelona. However, it's worth noting that Guardiola's teams also heavily incorporated elements of positional play.
    • Features: Emphasis on short passes, recycling possession, and patience in finding openings.
  2. Positional Play(or Juego de Posición):
    • Concept: While it may involve retaining possession, positional play is more focused on the organization of players in space. The primary goal is to create superiorities (numerical, positional, and qualitative) around the ball, ensuring that there are always passing options and that the team can progress up the field in a structured manner.
    • Purpose: The objective is to break down defensive structures by manipulating the position of the ball, the players, and the opposition. It's about creating spaces and passing lanes, and exploiting them.
    • Notable Examples: Many of the best modern teams, including those coached by Pep Guardiola (at Barcelona, Bayern Munich, and Manchester City), have utilized the principles of positional play.
    • Features: Structured player positioning, creating triangles and diamonds in possession to offer multiple passing lanes, stretching and manipulating opposition defenses, ensuring width and depth in play, and switching the point of attack to exploit space.
In essence, while both possession soccer and positional play involve having the ball for significant periods, their primary purposes differ. Possession soccer is more about ball retention, while positional play is about structuring the team in a way that maximizes space and passing options to break down the opposition. Positional play is often seen as a more proactive and advanced application of possession-based principles, with the purpose of actively seeking to disorganize the opposing team. Positional play requires a much more mature soccer player and it would be difficult to teach kids. But imo it's #1 because of all the numerical advantages it can provide in all the sections of the pitch if executed properly.
So chess bro. Love the break down on the difference between Possession Futbol and Positional Style. I prefer Positional Style but to each their own.
 
So chess bro. Love the break down on the difference between Possession Futbol and Positional Style. I prefer Positional Style but to each their own.

The reason why I posted this was because everyone seems to use the word possession soccer too freely and thus not allowing a team to form an identity for style of play. To say we teach possession in the USA does not mean we as Americans need to play like Spain.

Positional play many times is mistaken as possession soccer. While it incorporates possession it’s not possession soccer by itself. For example Positional play is the perfect system for the USA to adopt because it offers variability and flexibility in style of play given the type of players we already have and are developing. Positional play is a framework or a philosophy, but it's not a rigid set of rules. This allows for a multitude of interpretations and variations based on the coach's vision, the players' skill sets, the team's overall objectives, and the footballing culture of the country or club. Hence, two teams can both employ positional play but manifest it in vastly different styles on the pitch.

Here are a few factors that can influence these variations:

1. **Personnel**: The specific talents and abilities of players can shape how positional play is executed. A team with speedy wingers might exploit width more, while a team with a dominant midfield might focus on central overloads.

2. **Cultural Influences**: Different footballing cultures emphasize different aspects of the game. For example, Spanish football has traditionally emphasized close control and short passing, leading to a particular style of positional play. In contrast, Dutch "Total Football" has its own interpretations of positional play.

3. **Tactical Preferences of the Coach**: Even within the umbrella of positional play, a coach might prioritize certain principles. Some might emphasize quick ball circulation to disorient the defense, while others might focus on drawing opponents in to exploit spaces behind them.

4. **Opposition**: The nature of the opposition can also dictate the style. A team facing a high press might employ different positional play strategies than when facing a team that sits deep.

5. **Game State**: If a team is ahead, they might use positional play to control the game and maintain possession. If they're chasing a result, they might use it more aggressively to break down defenses.

6. **Integration with Other Tactics**: While positional play can be a team's dominant philosophy, it's often integrated with other tactics. For instance, some teams might combine positional play with high pressing, while others might transition into a counter-attacking stance after a certain phase of positional play.

For a real-world example, consider the differences between how Pep Guardiola's Barcelona and Manchester City teams have employed positional play. Both teams operate under the philosophy of positional play, but there are clear differences in tempo, player roles, and specific patterns of play, reflecting the unique attributes of the players and the challenges of the respective leagues.

In essence, positional play provides a tactical foundation, but it's the nuances, variations, and integrations that give each team its unique identity.

Meanwhile Possession soccer at its roots is the perfect framework for kids. For young players, especially those under 12, the primary objectives in their soccer development should be:

1. **Enjoyment of the Game**: Making sure they love playing and want to continue.
2. **Developing Fundamental Skills**: Ensuring they have the technical foundation upon which they can build as they grow older.

**Possession soccer** is an approach that aligns well with these objectives for several reasons:

1. **Touch on the Ball**: Emphasizing possession ensures that players get plenty of touches on the ball. The more touches they get, the better their ball control, dribbling, and passing skills will become.

2. **Encourages Passing & Teamwork**: Possession soccer emphasizes keeping the ball within the team, which naturally encourages players to pass and support one another. This can foster a sense of teamwork and understanding of basic game mechanics like supporting angles and moving the ball away from pressure.

3. **Builds Confidence**: Being comfortable on the ball and not feeling rushed to get rid of it can boost a young player's confidence. As they become more adept at maintaining possession, their self-assurance in their abilities will likely grow.

4. **Understanding of Space**: While possession soccer is simpler than advanced tactical concepts like positional play, it still introduces players to the idea of using space. They'll start recognizing when to pass, when to dribble, and when to move into open areas.

5. **Reduces Pressure**: At younger ages, focusing on possession reduces the pressure of always trying to score or win. Instead, the emphasis is on skill development, understanding, and enjoyment.

6. **Foundation for Future Learning**: Mastering the basics of possession soccer lays a solid foundation for introducing more complex tactical ideas later on. Once players are comfortable with the ball at their feet and understand the basics of passing and movement, they'll be better equipped to understand concepts like positional play, pressing, or counter-attacking in their teenage years.

In summary, possession soccer offers a great framework for young players to develop their skills and understanding of the game. It's a balanced approach that emphasizes individual skill, teamwork, and enjoyment, all essential components for youth soccer development.
 
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The reason why I posted this was because everyone seems to use the word possession soccer too freely and thus not allowing a team to form an identity for style of play. To say we teach possession in the USA does not mean we as Americans need to play like Spain.

Positional play many times is mistaken as possession soccer. While it incorporates possession it’s not possession soccer by itself. For example Positional play is the perfect system for the USA to adopt because it offers variability and flexibility in style of play given the type of players we already have and are developing Positional play is a framework or a philosophy, but it's not a rigid set of rules. This allows for a multitude of interpretations and variations based on the coach's vision, the players' skill sets, the team's overall objectives, and the footballing culture of the country or club. Hence, two teams can both employ positional play but manifest it in vastly different styles on the pitch.

Here are a few factors that can influence these variations:

1. **Personnel**: The specific talents and abilities of players can shape how positional play is executed. A team with speedy wingers might exploit width more, while a team with a dominant midfield might focus on central overloads.

2. **Cultural Influences**: Different footballing cultures emphasize different aspects of the game. For example, Spanish football has traditionally emphasized close control and short passing, leading to a particular style of positional play. In contrast, Dutch "Total Football" has its own interpretations of positional play.

3. **Tactical Preferences of the Coach**: Even within the umbrella of positional play, a coach might prioritize certain principles. Some might emphasize quick ball circulation to disorient the defense, while others might focus on drawing opponents in to exploit spaces behind them.

4. **Opposition**: The nature of the opposition can also dictate the style. A team facing a high press might employ different positional play strategies than when facing a team that sits deep.

5. **Game State**: If a team is ahead, they might use positional play to control the game and maintain possession. If they're chasing a result, they might use it more aggressively to break down defenses.

6. **Integration with Other Tactics**: While positional play can be a team's dominant philosophy, it's often integrated with other tactics. For instance, some teams might combine positional play with high pressing, while others might transition into a counter-attacking stance after a certain phase of positional play.

For a real-world example, consider the differences between how Pep Guardiola's Barcelona and Manchester City teams have employed positional play. Both teams operate under the philosophy of positional play, but there are clear differences in tempo, player roles, and specific patterns of play, reflecting the unique attributes of the players and the challenges of the respective leagues.

In essence, positional play provides a tactical foundation, but it's the nuances, variations, and integrations that give each team its unique identity.

Meanwhile Possession soccer at its roots is the perfect framework for kids. For young players, especially those under 12, the primary objectives in their soccer development should be:

1. **Enjoyment of the Game**: Making sure they love playing and want to continue.
2. **Developing Fundamental Skills**: Ensuring they have the technical foundation upon which they can build as they grow older.

**Possession soccer** is an approach that aligns well with these objectives for several reasons:

1. **Touch on the Ball**: Emphasizing possession ensures that players get plenty of touches on the ball. The more touches they get, the better their ball control, dribbling, and passing skills will become.

2. **Encourages Passing & Teamwork**: Possession soccer emphasizes keeping the ball within the team, which naturally encourages players to pass and support one another. This can foster a sense of teamwork and understanding of basic game mechanics like supporting angles and moving the ball away from pressure.

3. **Builds Confidence**: Being comfortable on the ball and not feeling rushed to get rid of it can boost a young player's confidence. As they become more adept at maintaining possession, their self-assurance in their abilities will likely grow.

4. **Understanding of Space**: While possession soccer is simpler than advanced tactical concepts like positional play, it still introduces players to the idea of using space. They'll start recognizing when to pass, when to dribble, and when to move into open areas.

5. **Reduces Pressure**: At younger ages, focusing on possession reduces the pressure of always trying to score or win. Instead, the emphasis is on skill development, understanding, and enjoyment.

6. **Foundation for Future Learning**: Mastering the basics of possession soccer lays a solid foundation for introducing more complex tactical ideas later on. Once players are comfortable with the ball at their feet and understand the basics of passing and movement, they'll be better equipped to understand concepts like positional play, pressing, or counter-attacking in their teenage years.

In summary, possession soccer offers a great framework for young players to develop their skills and understanding of the game. It's a balanced approach that emphasizes individual skill, teamwork, and enjoyment, all essential components for youth soccer development.
Bingo. I remember the rec days when kickball was all that was taught. I was asked to be coach (tricked really) at the last minute and took a team of misfits and lost every game. I stressed teamwork and pass the ball around. The other dad coaches were chasing 1st place all the way and it was about the championship. One coach who ended up getting 1st place taught Rugby American Soccer and Direct Kickball like no other. It was co-ed and super dangerous for the girls and the weak boys.
 
Bingo. I remember the rec days when kickball was all that was taught. I was asked to be coach (tricked really) at the last minute and took a team of misfits and lost every game. I stressed teamwork and pass the ball around. The other dad coaches were chasing 1st place all the way and it was about the championship. One coach who ended up getting 1st place taught Rugby American Soccer and Direct Kickball like no other. It was co-ed and super dangerous for the girls and the weak boys.


Bro that’s exactly how it is in rec. All kickball. All bad and it’s bad for the future of the sport.it’s bad for technique and it’s bad for IQ. European Rec I hear is much better. American club kids in the way they train technical skills tend to end up falling in love with the ball. They fall in love with all the cone drills trainers teach here created through way too much structured repetitive technical training. It’s really bad for kids. I see so many trainers running through mindless robotic cone drills through a cookie cutter system that blew up when covid hit. No one plays pickup soccer. Kids go to the lab and train as robots. Why do they do this? For me it’s about the $ cause it’s easy to setup cones and have kids in lines to train footwork and technique through memorized patterns when the game is not at all like that. While structure is valuable at a very young age, there are way too many older kids training like this. Talking to my friend in South America and he literally was laughing at all the silly Instagram technical training kids are doing.

The dynamics of youth soccer in the United States versus Europe are influenced by various historical, cultural, and structural factors. While there's certainly a significant emphasis on technical development in both continents, the environment and approaches differ. Here are some of my findings.

1. **Cultural Importance**: Soccer (or football as it's called in Europe) is deeply embedded in European culture. Many European nations consider football an essential part of their national identity. Kids grow up in an environment where football is not just a sport but a way of life, with traditions, local rivalries, and a shared community experience. In the U.S., although soccer is growing rapidly, sports like American football, basketball, and baseball have traditionally held more cultural significance.

2. **Street Soccer**: Unstructured play, often referred to as "street soccer," has historically been a significant part of the development process in many footballing nations in Europe (and other continents like South America). This type of play encourages creativity, understanding of the game, and a love for the sport itself. The U.S., with its structured sports culture and emphasis on organized activities, has not had as strong a tradition of street soccer.

3. **Coaching Philosophies**: there's often a perception that U.S. youth soccer places a significant emphasis on technical drills and repetitive training. While technical proficiency is crucial, it's also essential to foster creativity, decision-making, and game understanding, areas European academies might stress through varied training sessions, scrimmages, and emphasis on tactical education.

4. **Sports Infrastructure**: The U.S. has a highly organized sports infrastructure with leagues, clubs, and tournaments catering to various age groups and skill levels. This structure can sometimes lean towards a results-oriented approach (winning games) rather than long-term player development. European clubs, especially those with renowned academies, often have a clear developmental pathway that balances technical training with tactical education and game understanding.

5. **Diverse Sporting Options**: American children have a wide range of sports to choose from, and often they play multiple sports throughout the year. This multisport approach, while beneficial in many ways, can mean that their attention and commitment to soccer are divided.

6. **Late Specialization**: In Europe, talented young players are often identified early and funneled into professional club academies where they receive top-tier coaching, face high-level competition, and get a balanced soccer education. In the U.S., the college sports system is dominant, leading to a later specialization in soccer for many players.

It's essential to note that soccer in the U.S. has evolved significantly over the past few decades. The growth of Major League Soccer (MLS), the development of new academies and training facilities, and the changing perceptions of the sport are leading to a more balanced and sophisticated approach to youth development. We are only be right track in that aspect. However, I think now it’s the perfect time to cut out these bad habits or we will have a bunch robotic technical soccer players in the near future that never learned to love and appreciate the game because they never learned to play chess. They simply learned to only play checkers. Soccer is a mental sport. Technique is just one of the tools to help you execute the decisions made by your brain. I’ve always wondered why my son’s online FIFA team along with all the other online American teams always lose to the Europeans FIFA online. He says while they have a good FIFA team in the USA. It’s the Germans that Win all the big online tournaments. That says a lot about European soccer IQ. You can now see it clearly translate to the virtual world of video games.
 
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The reason why I posted this was because everyone seems to use the word possession soccer too freely and thus not allowing a team to form an identity for style of play. To say we teach possession in the USA does not mean we as Americans need to play like Spain.

Positional play many times is mistaken as possession soccer. While it incorporates possession it’s not possession soccer by itself. For example Positional play is the perfect system for the USA to adopt because it offers variability and flexibility in style of play given the type of players we already have and are developing. Positional play is a framework or a philosophy, but it's not a rigid set of rules. This allows for a multitude of interpretations and variations based on the coach's vision, the players' skill sets, the team's overall objectives, and the footballing culture of the country or club. Hence, two teams can both employ positional play but manifest it in vastly different styles on the pitch.

Here are a few factors that can influence these variations:

1. **Personnel**: The specific talents and abilities of players can shape how positional play is executed. A team with speedy wingers might exploit width more, while a team with a dominant midfield might focus on central overloads.

2. **Cultural Influences**: Different footballing cultures emphasize different aspects of the game. For example, Spanish football has traditionally emphasized close control and short passing, leading to a particular style of positional play. In contrast, Dutch "Total Football" has its own interpretations of positional play.

3. **Tactical Preferences of the Coach**: Even within the umbrella of positional play, a coach might prioritize certain principles. Some might emphasize quick ball circulation to disorient the defense, while others might focus on drawing opponents in to exploit spaces behind them.

4. **Opposition**: The nature of the opposition can also dictate the style. A team facing a high press might employ different positional play strategies than when facing a team that sits deep.

5. **Game State**: If a team is ahead, they might use positional play to control the game and maintain possession. If they're chasing a result, they might use it more aggressively to break down defenses.

6. **Integration with Other Tactics**: While positional play can be a team's dominant philosophy, it's often integrated with other tactics. For instance, some teams might combine positional play with high pressing, while others might transition into a counter-attacking stance after a certain phase of positional play.

For a real-world example, consider the differences between how Pep Guardiola's Barcelona and Manchester City teams have employed positional play. Both teams operate under the philosophy of positional play, but there are clear differences in tempo, player roles, and specific patterns of play, reflecting the unique attributes of the players and the challenges of the respective leagues.

In essence, positional play provides a tactical foundation, but it's the nuances, variations, and integrations that give each team its unique identity.

Meanwhile Possession soccer at its roots is the perfect framework for kids. For young players, especially those under 12, the primary objectives in their soccer development should be:

1. **Enjoyment of the Game**: Making sure they love playing and want to continue.
2. **Developing Fundamental Skills**: Ensuring they have the technical foundation upon which they can build as they grow older.

**Possession soccer** is an approach that aligns well with these objectives for several reasons:

1. **Touch on the Ball**: Emphasizing possession ensures that players get plenty of touches on the ball. The more touches they get, the better their ball control, dribbling, and passing skills will become.

2. **Encourages Passing & Teamwork**: Possession soccer emphasizes keeping the ball within the team, which naturally encourages players to pass and support one another. This can foster a sense of teamwork and understanding of basic game mechanics like supporting angles and moving the ball away from pressure.

3. **Builds Confidence**: Being comfortable on the ball and not feeling rushed to get rid of it can boost a young player's confidence. As they become more adept at maintaining possession, their self-assurance in their abilities will likely grow.

4. **Understanding of Space**: While possession soccer is simpler than advanced tactical concepts like positional play, it still introduces players to the idea of using space. They'll start recognizing when to pass, when to dribble, and when to move into open areas.

5. **Reduces Pressure**: At younger ages, focusing on possession reduces the pressure of always trying to score or win. Instead, the emphasis is on skill development, understanding, and enjoyment.

6. **Foundation for Future Learning**: Mastering the basics of possession soccer lays a solid foundation for introducing more complex tactical ideas later on. Once players are comfortable with the ball at their feet and understand the basics of passing and movement, they'll be better equipped to understand concepts like positional play, pressing, or counter-attacking in their teenage years.

In summary, possession soccer offers a great framework for young players to develop their skills and understanding of the game. It's a balanced approach that emphasizes individual skill, teamwork, and enjoyment, all essential components for youth soccer development.
There's no single tactic that wins against every opponent.

But... players that know how to do possession can switch to direct. Players that can only do direct can't switch to possession.
 
There's no single tactic that wins against every opponent.

But... players that know how to do possession can switch to direct. Players that can only do direct can't switch to possession.

I agree 100% Today is my day off so I did a lot research & reading so I reported my findings. We all need to get better educated to help our kids and Nation.
 
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