Bad News Thread

-Weren't you critical in the end of his school closures?
-What about youth sports.....you got so desperate at one point you were going to an out of state tournie?
-You approve of the French laundry?
-How about the outdoor dining stuff...you yourself conceded that might have driven people indoors?
-How about the outdoor mask stuff....or are you still holding out that an outdoor mask mandate is useful?
-How about the outdoor shutting of beaches and trail hikes....oh yeah I hear you the "science evolved".....but remember he tried to shut down playgrounds while fudging around with the ski slopes.

Now you can say and argue with a straight face that he did his job better on the whole than his errors. But to say that "Newsom is essentially being recalled for doing his job" is very much the stretch.
So give me an alternative who actually wanted to do something to control the virus. Send me a link to their 2020 press release describing what they thought we should do at the time.

But, if the main GOP position is that we should not have tried to control the virus, count me as not interested.
 
So give me an alternative who actually wanted to do something to control the virus. Send me a link to their 2020 press release describing what they thought we should do at the time.

But, if the main GOP position is that we should not have tried to control the virus, count me as not interested.

You are perfectly capable of saying you prefer Newsom to any of the alternatives. It is further reasonable to say that Newsom did a better job than any of the alternatives would have. It's further reasonable to say that on the whole he did a descent job as far as you are concerned, even if you did disagree with a lot of it, and therefore he doesn't deserve removal. But what you cannot do is say the only thing he was doing was just his job, since you yourself have been critical of the way he's handled it. You can't have it both ways: either the attempt to moderate your positions has been wrong, or Newsom's handling of the rona was far from perfect.
 
So give me an alternative who actually wanted to do something to control the virus. Send me a link to their 2020 press release describing what they thought we should do at the time.

But, if the main GOP position is that we should not have tried to control the virus, count me as not interested.
Your starting with a flawed premise that you can "control" a virus. Actual historical evidence clearly shows that you can't (please spare me the cherry picking and parsing of minutiae that "proves" you can). You can only attempt to mitigate the impacts of the virus. So if a candidate can implement common sense mitigation measures and will choose our children over the unions, then they will get my vote. Now it's not likely that a Democrat fits this description since they're beholden to the unions. Unfortunately, I'm not very enamored with Cox or Faulkner. Faulkner made a lot of mistakes in San Diego....and Cox, WTF is up with the bear?
 
You are perfectly capable of saying you prefer Newsom to any of the alternatives. It is further reasonable to say that Newsom did a better job than any of the alternatives would have. It's further reasonable to say that on the whole he did a descent job as far as you are concerned, even if you did disagree with a lot of it, and therefore he doesn't deserve removal. But what you cannot do is say the only thing he was doing was just his job, since you yourself have been critical of the way he's handled it. You can't have it both ways: either the attempt to moderate your positions has been wrong, or Newsom's handling of the rona was far from perfect.
I can completely say he is being criticized for doing his job. It is what you are doing. Newsom tried to close restaurants and make us all wear masks, and you are mad at him for it.

It’s roughly what I think when I hear loudmouth parents yelling at the ref. Occasionally, the ref makes a mistake. But most of the time, the parent’s complaint is that the ref did the job he was asked to do.
 
I can completely say he is being criticized for doing his job. It is what you are doing. Newsom tried to close restaurants and make us all wear masks, and you are mad at him for it.

It’s roughly what I think when I hear loudmouth parents yelling at the ref. Occasionally, the ref makes a mistake. But most of the time, the parent’s complaint is that the ref did the job he was asked to do.

The issue is in this case you are one of the loud mouth parents.
 
So give me an alternative who actually wanted to do something to control the virus. Send me a link to their 2020 press release describing what they thought we should do at the time.

But, if the main GOP position is that we should not have tried to control the virus, count me as not interested.
If you were interested in virus control you wouldn't be basing your hysteria on Corona DNA segments via the PCR test.
 
I can completely say he is being criticized for doing his job. It is what you are doing. Newsom tried to close restaurants and make us all wear masks, and you are mad at him for it.

It’s roughly what I think when I hear loudmouth parents yelling at the ref. Occasionally, the ref makes a mistake. But most of the time, the parent’s complaint is that the ref did the job he was asked to do.
Loud mouth parents are typically the ones watching their first born play. Reminds me of your hysteria. It's obvious this was your first pandemic.
 
You mean the panicked scramble when you're in front of the store, usually a unplanned mini market stop, and your rummaging through your car trying to find a mask. Sometimes finding a janky old mask that god knows who wore, and you're like F' it, I really need that can of Starbucks Doubleshot.

Why was it so hard for us to remember a mask even after a year? It must be some subconscious thing.
Yeah, multiple times on some days. Keys, wallet, phone is challenging enough.
 
Not going to quibble over 60-80K versus 100K. Either way, a substantial number of people are at risk.

The assumptions you listed actually give an estimate of 264K. (0.4% IFR and 20% new infections.) I am not that pessimistic.
Historically, protecting people who say, "I got this" is not a very American thing to do. You heard Crush. He's got his V's. He's fit. People that aren't should probably get a vaccine. I hear there are so many available they may have to throw them away. In the meantime, life goes on. All the handwringing and consorting with the head troll of misanthropy isn't doing you any good.

Oh, I found your candidate, @dad4. There are NO cases in his country. Seems like your kind of guy. Might be tough to convince him to leave his current gig, though. jk.

 
The celebrity millennium allowed only vaccinated crew and passengers. First all vax North America cruise. 2 passengers, asymptomatic, have tested positive despite being fully vaxxed. Doing both doesn’t work....either you vaccine passport the cruises (in which case you don’t worry about it...they are either a small number of breakthrough cases or it’s another issue with overly sensitive testing where exposure does not necessary equal ill) or you test them.
 
There is an rsv mini epidemic building in the southern states from Texas to Virginia. Probably due to the littlest ones having more outside contact now as it’s a very common disease in toddlers and young children. Every year though it kills 100-200 children and 15,000 adults mostly over 65. Guess it’s time to go into lockdown.
 
There is an rsv mini epidemic building in the southern states from Texas to Virginia. Probably due to the littlest ones having more outside contact now as it’s a very common disease in toddlers and young children. Every year though it kills 100-200 children and 15,000 adults mostly over 65. Guess it’s time to go into lockdown.
Oh here’s a side note. In bad years the death toll for rsv can rise to up to 500 children. The experts are worried this might be such a year because kids build resistance by being exposed early and often...now they may be exposed as older toddlers and children due to the year long day potentially causing more severe cases. The hospitalization rate btw for children is about 15,000 every year.
 
The celebrity millennium allowed only vaccinated crew and passengers. First all vax North America cruise. 2 passengers, asymptomatic, have tested positive despite being fully vaxxed. Doing both doesn’t work....either you vaccine passport the cruises (in which case you don’t worry about it...they are either a small number of breakthrough cases or it’s another issue with overly sensitive testing where exposure does not necessary equal ill) or you test them.
Doing both doesn’t work? Why not?

Your example seems to be a case of doing both. They ran an asymptomtic screening on some vaccinated passengers.

Two of them had covid, but no symptoms. This is not too surprising if you remember just how many passengers are on these ships. It is 2 asymptomatic cases out of 2,000.
 
The celebrity millennium allowed only vaccinated crew and passengers. First all vax North America cruise. 2 passengers, asymptomatic, have tested positive despite being fully vaxxed. Doing both doesn’t work....either you vaccine passport the cruises (in which case you don’t worry about it...they are either a small number of breakthrough cases or it’s another issue with overly sensitive testing where exposure does not necessary equal ill) or you test them.

The CM maximum capacity is over 2000 passengers and over 900 crew. Do we know how many were on board?
 
Historically, protecting people who say, "I got this" is not a very American thing to do. You heard Crush. He's got his V's. He's fit. People that aren't should probably get a vaccine. I hear there are so many available they may have to throw them away. In the meantime, life goes on. All the handwringing and consorting with the head troll of misanthropy isn't doing you any good.

Oh, I found your candidate, @dad4. There are NO cases in his country. Seems like your kind of guy. Might be tough to convince him to leave his current gig, though. jk.

Thanks bro, I really really really do appreciate the common sense friendship we have built. I love you man :)
 
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