Your union really dropped the ball.
Like I said before employers need to be a little more flexible with sick time on a go forward basis. I believe that it will benefit both employee and employer in the long run.
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Like I said before employers need to be a little more flexible with sick time on a go forward basis. I believe that it will benefit both employee and employer in the long run.
You mean the panicked scramble when you're in front of the store, usually a unplanned mini market stop, and your rummaging through your car trying to find a mask. Sometimes finding a janky old mask that god knows who wore, and you're like F' it, I really need that can of Starbucks Doubleshot.
Why was it so hard for us to remember a mask even after a year? It must be some subconscious thing.
Are you aware of any states that aren't using the honor system? It seems that every state is either using the honor system to some extent or eliminating the mask requirement altogether. Verification of vaccine status seems to be only required in some states for very specific situations.
If you are unhappy with Newsom's honor system you have the opportunity to tell him how you feel in the recall election this Fall.
I spent the last few months remembering my mask when I was halfway from my car to the store and had to go back to get it. On the last trip out, I remembered my mask when I left the car, but I forgot my cellphone and had to go back to get it.
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"Over and over we see the central truth: the corporate outlets that most loudly and shrilly denounce “disinformation” — to the point of demanding online censorship and de-platforming in the name of combating it — are, in fact, the ones who spread disinformation most frequently and destructively. It is hard to count how many times they have spread major fake stories in the Trump years. For that reason, they have nobody but themselves to blame for the utter collapse in trust and faith on the part of the public, which has rightfully concluded they cannot and should not be believed."
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Bruddah IZ
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Gong.
Bruddah IZ
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Shocking!!
Bruddah IZ
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More like a mee-oww with a 99 percent survival rate. Unless you're suggesting that the current vaccines are pathogenic primers.
Why do you believe this is relevant?
I believe that Delta is relevant because our vaccination rate is not high enough to prevent another 10-20% of people getting sick with covid this winter. Works out to another 100K deaths or so. Fewer if vax rates rise or masks become common again.
Do you have a similar concern with the flu?
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So at another 100k deaths or so...that puts us slightly higher than the flu in a bad year.
Totally fine with that. We don't blink an eye with those rates with the flu. We just deal with it and move on.
Same thing here. Right?
Even assuming your Max No of 20% and a Max IFR for non vaccinated across the gen population of .4% (which you yourself said was falling due to treatments and seems to actually be between .1-.2%), that 100K number is the worst case ceiling because vaccination 65+ is running substantially higher than the rest of the population. IIRC the last number I saw for 65+ was close to 80%. It's probably closer to 60,000-80,000 which would be in line with the seasonal flu.
Bruddah IZ
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Because you think PCR test are relevant.
Newsom is essentially being recalled for doing his job.
Count me, and 57% of likely voters, as a no on your recall.
Never signed the recall petition, but I will happily vote for someone else. I can't forgive give him for siding with the unions over our children. I'm not a single issue voter but what he did was inexcusable.
Is he not doing his job now since he is allowing the honor system?
He’s getting recall because he did his job so poorly.
Not going to quibble over 60-80K versus 100K. Either way, a substantial number of people are at risk.
The assumptions you listed actually give an estimate of 264K. (0.4% IFR and 20% new infections.) I am not that pessimistic.
Math error: .4% worst case is the IFR in the general population prevaccination. You have to discount by population because the most vulnerable have a higher IFR, but there are much fewer of them vulnerable because vaccination has been skewing older. Refusals are highest in the under 40 brackets, for which the IFR is very small. You can back envelope it better than I can but that puts your worst case, edge of the bell curve scenario somewhere in the 100K-120K range.
Which brings the numbers in the range of seasonal flu. If you think 60-80K is a substantial risk, the knock on you really is true...the numbers are the same as flu (and what's worse is they brought it on themselves, since unlike the flu vaccine, we know the rona vaccine works really well)....you must go into a panic every bad flu season.
-Weren't you critical in the end of his school closures?
-What about youth sports.....you got so desperate at one point you were going to an out of state tournie?
-You approve of the French laundry?
-How about the outdoor dining stuff...you yourself conceded that might have driven people indoors?
-How about the outdoor mask stuff....or are you still holding out that an outdoor mask mandate is useful?
-How about the outdoor shutting of beaches and trail hikes....oh yeah I hear you the "science evolved".....but remember he tried to shut down playgrounds while fudging around with the ski slopes.
Now you can say and argue with a straight face that he did his job better on the whole than his errors. But to say that "Newsom is essentially being recalled for doing his job" is very much the stretch.
Bruddah IZ
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You're nearly as dishonorable as Gav.
Desert Hound
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Why is it relevant?
Because if the press kept running totals of the flu deaths day by day, county by county, etc you would have had people freaking out long ago.
So you and others are now always looking, always worried about the next variant. I suspect strongly you don't even think about the flu other than to remind yourself to get a yearly shot.
The reality is outside a small segment of our population, covid is a non issue.
Don’t forget about the $1 billion dollar mask deal with a Chinese CAR MANUFACTURER (that also happens to be a major campaign donor).