Vaccine

espola said:
The Lancet did their duty with the retraction and the publicity about it. The credibility that was damaged was that of the authors. Getting an article published in a major journal such as Lancet is a big deal for an author. Having to issue a retraction is infinitely worse.
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Probably irrelevant to you, but the Lancet didn't retract the article on their own accord, based upon their own research or because of the many scientists that questioned the data. It was only retracted at the request of the study's author. Even after the retraction, other scientific papers continued to cite the retracted article.
 
watfly said:
Probably irrelevant to you, but the Lancet didn't retract the article on their own accord, based upon their own research or because of the many scientists that questioned the data. It was only retracted at the request of the study's author. Even after the retraction, other scientific papers continued to cite the retracted article.
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I bow to your superior knowledge of medical publishing.
 
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watfly said:
Probably irrelevant to you, but the Lancet didn't retract the article on their own accord, based upon their own research or because of the many scientists that questioned the data. It was only retracted at the request of the study's author. Even after the retraction, other scientific papers continued to cite the retracted article.
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He doesnt t get it...dogma rules the day.
 
espola said:
So you don't like Gates because you are "sure there are plenty of articles written by professionals"? That's it?
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are you really that intellectually lazy? You can go ahead and like Gates...i don't..his foundation has a very linear view of world health issues. Money an tech are great until they aren't. anyway, you again are out of your league...do some reasearch on health care systems in lesser developed countries, do your own analysis, talk to some people, gain a better understanding of what all of this means, then get back to me....or not. Bill Gates sucks at helping poor countries improve their healthcare systems....but he's good at vaccine deployment.
 
Happened again said:
but never mind the downstream effect of crappy journalism in medical journals. It's just not the words that matter....but anyway..
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It's tough to unring the bell. Retractions apparently don't do much to prevent others in the scientific community from relying on fraudulent evidence.


COVID-19 "is such a hot topic that publishers are willing to publish without proper vetting," even in the face of retractions that made global headlines, says Elizabeth Suelzer, a reference librarian at the Medical College of Wisconsin who has written about problematic citations to a retracted 1998 study in The Lancet falsely linking vaccination to autism.

Questions soon arose about the validity, and even existence, of the Surgisphere database, however, and the retractions followed on 4 June. But of the 200 papers examined by Science—all published after the retractions—105 inappropriately cited one of the disgraced studies.

Ivan Oransky, co-founder of the website Retraction Watch, says such blunders occur because "people are either willfully or negligently not checking references." Many authors copy and paste lists of apparently relevant citations from similar papers without actually reading them, he says. "It's frightening. It's terrible, but common."
 
Happened again said:
are you really that intellectually lazy? You can go ahead and like Gates...i don't..his foundation has a very linear view of world health issues. Money an tech are great until they aren't. anyway, you again are out of your league...do some reasearch on health care systems in lesser developed countries, do your own analysis, talk to some people, gain a better understanding of what all of this means, then get back to me....or not. Bill Gates sucks at helping poor countries improve their healthcare systems....but he's good at vaccine deployment.
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Yes.. he is that intellectually lazy. He's also retired and has a lot of time on his hands so what does thst tell you about him..
 
Happened again said:
are you really that intellectually lazy? You can go ahead and like Gates...i don't..his foundation has a very linear view of world health issues. Money an tech are great until they aren't. anyway, you again are out of your league...do some reasearch on health care systems in lesser developed countries, do your own analysis, talk to some people, gain a better understanding of what all of this means, then get back to me....or not. Bill Gates sucks at helping poor countries improve their healthcare systems....but he's good at vaccine deployment.
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I guess if you are an anti-vaxxer, then Gates is the devil.
 
espola said:
I guess if you are an anti-vaxxer, then Gates is the devil.
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you would guess wrong silly goose. Why would you assume that? I'm certainly anti unneccessary vax. Are you one of those who believes/believed vaccinating healthy people was the right thing to do? It was cool to vaccinate healthy children? Big difference between a media painted "anti-vaxxer" and those who question shady medical practice supported by for profit organizations.

Gates is a neccessary evil for the WHO and other organizations - he's positioned himself that way.
 
Happened again said:
you would guess wrong silly goose. Why would you assume that? I'm certainly anti unneccessary vax. Are you one of those who believes/believed vaccinating healthy people was the right thing to do? It was cool to vaccinate healthy children? Big difference between a media painted "anti-vaxxer" and those who question shady medical practice supported by for profit organizations.

Gates is a neccessary evil for the WHO and other organizations - he's positioned himself that way.
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Then your reasoning totally escapes me.
 
Time to get paid moving mask, selling booster shots and supplies for 6 feet back away Jackass or I'm snitching on you. My lib pals are telling everyone to trust the leaders, trust the science because and follow the rules because. Fact: Mask are coming back. Let's see who a good boy is and obeys daddy. My buddy must be in one of these big mask deals because he told me he's giving his two-week notice. I jealous but stoked for him. It's not enough commission to share with his bff (me) but enough to offer me free room & board at his Bali beach bungalow anytime I want and for as long as I want. His payout is enough to quit his job, move to Bali and live off his winnings & savings. He has a killer retirement plan + SS will kick in when time is right so he's set for life.

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