Did you read the part where a prior infection also makes you more likely to get that particular variant?
Because I don’t remember you ever having a non-vax plan for avoiding the virus.
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Because I don’t remember you ever having a non-vax plan for avoiding the virus.
kickingandscreaming
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Just a second. I'm pulling out Kamala's Venn Diagram. We have a split by vaccinated/unvaccinated people, and we have a split by prior infection/no prior infection. If the vaccinated people and those that had the virus are more likely to catch the virus, that only leaves unvaccinated people who have never had the virus to be in the "less likely to get the virus" category. Isn't that a rather small % of the US population? If so, they must have a much lower risk to significantly affect to average. Am I missing something?
You seem to be assuming that Australia’s low death rate has nothing at all to do with their high vaccination rate.
Curious assumption.
Desert Hound
DA
You miss the point... again.
The vax doesn't work.
That is what you have hung your hat on now for some time.
I am not arguing the point that NYX said...and that is previously infected also get it at a higher rate.
The important thing is the vax seems to be counter productive.
Consider that when you want vax mandates.
Consider that in the light of the fact we still don't have long term studies done.
Etc etc.
This should normally be cause for concern and going slower.
And yet you seem full speed ahead on vax and boosters.
Caution here seems very warranted
The study should do it as “odds for group A” versus ”odds for group B”, so the size of the groups won’t change the scale of the effect.
However, you do have to ask how they identified a significant number of of never infected unvaccinated people. Seems hard to believe that there are too many of them left.
It is easy to get a skewed sample. An unvaccinated person with an excellent immune system is likely to get marked as “never had it”, because he never got sick enough to want a covid test. (Even if he did catch covid.)
The whole thing might just mean that people who never noticed getting version 1 of covid are less likely to notice getting version 2 of covid. Lucky them.
Yes, "they" want us all divided. Mask vs no mask. Jab vs no jab. Black vs white. Transgender vs Transphobe, Gay vs Straight, Right vs Left, Dem vs Repub, Socialist vs Capitalist, Lib vs Conserv, China vs USA, Ukraine vs Russia, Girls vs Boys, Heaven vs Hell, God vs Devil, good vs evil and so on. Our brains are wired and "programed" by the programmers that program that crap in our brains and we watch news and shows on Tel A Vision. We must be shown this and we must live through it so it never happens again
Sometimes you must walk through hell before you get to heaven brother. I love you man and I mean that. God bless you and your wonderful family. We got this and good will beat evil. Once we take out those dumb libs....lol! See.........
Who's really tired of hearing the words "experts believe" or "experts say"...? If the last few years taught us anything... there are no "experts".
Most "experts" are making a buck or have a job that tells them to obey and get out the message. These "experts" are only people with agendas. Some good, most evil/selfish. Occasionally these people possess information not widely known, and most of the time... that information is bullshit engineered to support their narrative. They also use people, like teachers to preach their BS to us.
"Experts" can FO!!!
Most "experts" are making a buck or have a job that tells them to obey and get out the message. These "experts" are only people with agendas. Some good, most evil/selfish. Occasionally these people possess information not widely known, and most of the time... that information is bullshit engineered to support their narrative. They also use people, like teachers to preach their BS to us.
"Experts" can FO!!!
Desert Hound
DA
You keep avoiding the elephant in the room.
And what is that?
That those vaxxed seem MORE likely to get the virus.
That is not what a vax is supposed to do
And yet you want more of it and to have people boost more frequently.
Maybe to to re-evaluate that position? And if not why?
You like the comparison to other Vaccines (remember all the paperwork you were filling out). Well, how many of those Vaccines made you more likely to catch the Virus?
"These" people are sick. They had all the power and with power comes money and with lot's of extra money, you can play high stakes pay to play games. Bought, bribed and some are even blackmailed. High stakes blackmail is insane Hound. However, the psychopath loves to play blackmail. I just heard another booster commercial on the radio and then a new heart medication ad after that one. Insane!!! Why? Well, big pharma pays for the ad spots and "they" write the script. The folks WHO work at the station are bought at the very best and at the very worst, well let's not go there. Peace brah!
When someone says, "The study shows", turn your BS detector to 11 because its about to come hard and fast. Why do we need studies when the raw data and our individual lived experiences overwhelmingly show what is happening and/or has happened? You should trust your eyes and not some controlled study where they put the raw data through some "scientific" black box that claims the opposite of what you experienced. I think that's the very definition of "gaslighting" (aka the pandemic's word of the year).
Time and experience is a bitch if your a snake oil salesman watty. Safe & Effective my ass! My friends are dead. Three years ago we all started down this Covid 19 scare event. I woke up this morning grateful to wake up.
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thirteenknots
SILVER ELITE
Go away...........
It works both ways Crush. I have a hard time believing people are just spontaneously dying of heart attacks caused by the vaccine.
The Naked Truth is blood clots and top sports folks having cardiac arrest. Hunter knows 100% about this scam, its all on his "lap top from hell." This is serious and very high stakes pay to play that were ALL dealing with, unless your in Devos with the Elites. Look at large tattoo on dudes back watty. Hunter was born into this insane and demonic family. The Big Guy was taking orders as well from his boss and his boss was taking orders from his bosses and then those bosses took orders from "IT." Devils Lake....
Happened again
SILVER ELITE
and you are putting words in my mouth why? don't you think it's curious that there have been more deaths during the omicron wave down under than there were during the insidious days of the delta wave? makes you wonder why a less virulent strain wreaked so much havoc on a highly vaxed/boosted population. A lot of this just doesn't make sense....the history is still being written.
Happened again
SILVER ELITE
ahh you are onto something. That's the whole idea of natural immunity and why vaccinating healthy people is so outrageous. The data was in very early that healthy people managed just fine with the initial strain, then delta. Subsequent strains became even less severe - yet, schools, universities, corporations, governments pound on their collective chests to mandate vaccinating healthy people. At least the DOD has come to its senses, as have some public universities and corporations.
It blows my mind that policy makers continue to live with heads in their 4th point of contact. I was in a city in my state today doing outreach stuff and couldn't believe the amount of plexiglass and masks present in retail stores. Has anyone told the people running these places that virus particles are excellent at finding their way over, around and to the side of a suspended plexiglass barrier. Never mind the mask being worn below the nose. For heaven's sake, if you are going to wear a mask, wear it. And, and if you are behind the plexiglass barrier, and I have the flu/cold/rsv and I stand there long enough, you are getting it.
Maybe pfizer will finish their work on the rsv vaccine..maybe mRNA has a chance since the last version of a rsv trial vaccine crashed and burned.