Vaccine

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He got his dream job working for his cities newspaper. Gregory died "unexpectedly" at home. Family said he was having a hard time breathing. RIP sir and thanks for bringing us breaking news. My heart aches for so many. They were only doing what they were told is safe & effective and they wanted to protect others from a virus that they said is the most dangerous ever and they wanted to keep their job.

 

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The USA Freedom Flyers ((Unvaccinated Pilots)) Association phones are ringing off the hook from Corp business companies with private jets and wealthy business people who only want the Freedom Pilots flying their planes because their 100% not vaxxed. Huge demand. I also heard why so mnay flights are being cancelled. It must be nice to be rich and be able to pick your pilot. WEF has reported most of the private jets flew in with non jabbed pilots. Of course these monsters didn;t take the jabs and they know the truth more than most.

 

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New York City Health Officials Admit Omicron Subvariant Is More Likely to "Infect" Vaccinated People - And Yet Continue to Urge Residents to Get Vaccinated. Get the jabs + all boosters and increase your chance at catching the XBB 1.5 sub variant that is now infected millions wave after wave. Cardiac Arrest is also available. This is insane! Another girl just died from cardiac arrest.

 

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Fox News, Breaking News: CDC is looking into to see if the shots=strokes=SADS. We need Independent Scientist & Docs who do not answer to anyone except the truth. Who love their country over money. BTW, I know another person who died unexpectantly in their sleep. Plus, Dr. Harriet A Hall died in her sleep quietly and peacefully, said her husband. Today is my last day posting death stories. I think we all know by now what is going on. 4%-6% are lost forever. I'm pulling for everyone on here do the right thing and follow the truth, no matter where it comes from or how it comes out. Like the Q Team said, "sometimes you can't tell people the truth, you must show them the truth." The truth is hard to accept.

 

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[kickingandscreaming]

The whole thing makes more sense if you assume that most national governments believed it is an escaped bioweapon, but were unwilling to say so.

This especially helps explain why the Chinese response was so severe. From the Chinese perspective, covid was a domestically produced bioweapon, and therefore better.

How many complicit, powerful people would it take to keep that under wraps? They would have had to have kept it from Trump as he gladly would have shared this information. We had many in the US aware of the research in that lab, and it had NIH funding. I don't see how it's kept under wraps and how it goes from a mutual research project to a Chinese government-led bioweapons production.

The Aussie response - a free and democratic society - was not far from the Chinese government's response. China does what China does. They are ruthless autocrats with a history of "disappearing" citizens at the government's whim.

Also, it's a terrible misjudgment to imagine that approach is a good idea. If anything, the truth would have given more support to pressure China through sanctions, etc.

This assumption doesn't make more sense to me than this. COVID escaped from the Chinese lab while doing gain-of-function research that the US closely supported. The close involvement of our government and specific people in power who were overseeing this research would have painted them in a damning light. So, they chose to misdirect using the wet market theory. After the escape, the handling of COVID worldwide exposed people for what they are as difficult times do.

 

[dad4]

How many complicit, powerful people would it take to keep that under wraps? They would have had to have kept it from Trump as he gladly would have shared this information. We had many in the US aware of the research in that lab, and it had NIH funding. I don't see how it's kept under wraps and how it goes from a mutual research project to a Chinese government-led bioweapons production.

The Aussie response - a free and democratic society - was not far from the Chinese government's response. China does what China does. They are ruthless autocrats with a history of "disappearing" citizens at the government's whim.

Also, it's a terrible misjudgment to imagine that approach is a good idea. If anything, the truth would have given more support to pressure China through sanctions, etc.

This assumption doesn't make more sense to me than this. COVID escaped from the Chinese lab while doing gain-of-function research that the US closely supported. The close involvement of our government and specific people in power who were overseeing this research would have painted them in a damning light. So, they chose to misdirect using the wet market theory. After the escape, the handling of COVID worldwide exposed people for what they are as difficult times do.

If you want to mention the Aussie response, remember to ask whether it worked. Did Australia actually end up with fewer deaths per capita than the US or Europe?

No fair counting just one side of the ledger.

 

[Happened again]

If you want to mention the Aussie response, remember to ask whether it worked. Did Australia actually end up with fewer deaths per capita than the US or Europe?

No fair counting just one side of the ledger.

ahhh yes, but have you checked them out lately? We will never be done with covid and data remains to be gathered. The aussies had their highest death rates in 22 from covid....trying to figure that one out. They fully bought into lockdowns and mandates, some of the most draconian in the free world yet here they are, dying from a less severe strain.

So wondering what you think worked? That a rather healthy population did really well in the face of a crazy new respiratory virus? Sure, they did really good, especially pre vaccine. mandates and vaccines that were relatively effective against early variants also played well in their favor.

The US..well, we are rather unhealthy, and paid the price (probably still paying). lack of thoughtful geriatric care also hurt us. Nuance is a thing and the covid story isn't done yet. Even though plenty of officials wanted to make you think it was/is going to be over. Remember that one time the CDC told you it was impossible for a vaccinated person to carry the virus, and then that was parroted by the
i stayed at a Holiday Inn" crowd as truth.

 

[dad4]

ahhh yes, but have you checked them out lately? We will never be done with covid and data remains to be gathered. The aussies had their highest death rates in 22 from covid....trying to figure that one out. They fully bought into lockdowns and mandates, some of the most draconian in the free world yet here they are, dying from a less severe strain.

So wondering what you think worked? That a rather healthy population did really well in the face of a crazy new respiratory virus? Sure, they did really good, especially pre vaccine. mandates and vaccines that were relatively effective against early variants also played well in their favor.

The US..well, we are rather unhealthy, and paid the price (probably still paying). lack of thoughtful geriatric care also hurt us. Nuance is a thing and the covid story isn't done yet. Even though plenty of officials wanted to make you think it was/is going to be over. Remember that one time the CDC told you it was impossible for a vaccinated person to carry the virus, and then that was parroted by the
i stayed at a Holiday Inn" crowd as truth.

Checked who out? Australia? Over the last 3 years, they have had less than 1/4 as many covid deaths per capita as the US.

Turns out that ”mask, quarantine, and vaccine” worked well for them. They eventually got covid, but it was after they were almost all vaccinated.

Before you blame it all on those chubby Americans, take a look at Australia’s obesity rate. They’re about as bad as we are.

Overweight and obesity, Summary

Overweight or obesity is the second leading risk factor (after tobacco use) for many preventable chronic conditions, such as heart disease, some cancers and type@2 diabetes. More Australians in...

www.aihw.gov.au

 

[kickingandscreaming]

If you want to mention the Aussie response, remember to ask whether it worked. Did Australia actually end up with fewer deaths per capita than the US or Europe?

No fair counting just one side of the ledger.

Not sure what that has to do with your initial argument that governments knew that COVID was a Chinese-created biological weapon but refused to make it public and this explains the Chinese government's severe response. Remember, this is what I was responding to below. Are you abandoning this argument?

The whole thing makes more sense if you assume that most national governments believed it is an escaped bioweapon, but were unwilling to say so.

This especially helps explain why the Chinese response was so severe. From the Chinese perspective, covid was a domestically produced bioweapon, and therefore better.

 

[dad4]

Not sure what that has to do with your initial argument that governments knew that COVID was a Chinese-created biological weapon but refused to make it public and this explains the Chinese government's severe response. Remember, this is what I was responding to below. Are you abandoning this argument?

I was responding to your point comparing Australia’s response to China’s.

Your point on a vast conspiracy to keep a secret? We had POTUS discussing WIV origins in news conferences and calling it ”the Wuhan flu”. It wasn’t a secret at all.

The argument is strongest for a Chinese belief that it was a bioweapon. China very quickly turned from “nothing to see here“ to locking down whole cities. That’s not what you do if you think it is just avian flu.

 

[espola]

I was responding to your point comparing Australia’s response to China’s.

Your point on a vast conspiracy to keep a secret? We had POTUS discussing WIV origins in news conferences and calling it ”the Wuhan flu”. It wasn’t a secret at all.

The argument is strongest for a Chinese belief that it was a bioweapon. China very quickly turned from “nothing to see here“ to locking down whole cities. That’s not what you do if you think it is just avian flu.

I thought maybe you had a reliable source.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

I was responding to your point comparing Australia’s response to China’s.

Your point on a vast conspiracy to keep a secret? We had POTUS discussing WIV origins in news conferences and calling it ”the Wuhan flu”. It wasn’t a secret at all.

The argument is strongest for a Chinese belief that it was a bioweapon. China very quickly turned from “nothing to see here“ to locking down whole cities. That’s not what you do if you think it is just avian flu.

I see. You are identifying what was done at the lab as bioweapon research instead of gain-of-function research, as I am assuming. That's a significant distinction as it drags the US into not only dangerous gain-of-function virus research but also adds the intent of weaponizing the virus. Maybe you are correct. That is plausible. However, I still don't understand how that explains the need to lie, mislead and censor questions and facts regarding the results of the virus. It was obvious early on who was at risk, and a large portion of the population did not face significant risk - whether it was an intended bioweapon or not.

 

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Monsters!!!

 

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It's going to pay out nicely for those who said, "no" to being bought, bribed and blackmailed with the shots in this pay to play scam of a life. After the blood clot shot mandate was rescinded for members of the military this week, the Pentagon is now considering back pay (and some extra $$) for troops who were discharged for refusing to be Guinea pigs. The non jabbed will also be in high demand now for leadership positions. These types of people can't be bought and the future will want these folks in charge because they can't be bought. Make sense now? This is called Karma. Former Vice President Mike Pence said on Wednesday that all service members discharged for refusing the mandate should get full back pay After we take care of our Military peeps, we will need to look at those who lost EVERYTHING for saying, "no!!!!" Small biz in CA? Those who got fired as teachers for saying, "no!!!!!" will get a nice pay out, moo. Also, those who have suffered with injury from jab or lost loved ones because will also be taken care of.

 

[watfly]

Let's review. We initially took what we were told about the vaccine to be accurate. 68% of us got "fully vaccinated" ie the two doses for Moderna and Pfizer or one dose JJ. Then the majority of us got Covid post-vaccination (variant, schmariant). We also experienced that for healthy American's Covid was a mild cold to a bad flu. The only people dying we're significantly compromised, the same population that was vulnerable to dying from the flu. We also saw with our eyes that the vaccine provided negligible, if any, protection from getting infected or preventing transmission and that the vaccination was not durable. The result? Only 33% of the population have received at least one booster.

The biggest fact we experienced was that kids were not vulnerable to any negative impacts from Covid. The result? 32% of 5-12 year olds received two shots and only 11% of those 6 mo to 4 yo have received one shot.

The people have spoken based upon what they actually experienced, not based upon what they were told by talking heads promoting a narrative or some cherry-picked "scientific study" promoted by the same.

 

[Desert Hound]

Let's review. We initially took what we were told about the vaccine to be accurate. 68% of us got "fully vaccinated" ie the two doses for Moderna and Pfizer or one dose JJ. Then the majority of us got Covid post-vaccination (variant, schmariant). We also experienced that for healthy American's Covid was a mild cold to a bad flu. The only people dying we're significantly compromised, the same population that was vulnerable to dying from the flu. We also saw with our eyes that the vaccine provided negligible, if any, protection from getting infected or preventing transmission and that the vaccination was not durable. The result? Only 33% of the population have received at least one booster.

The biggest fact we experienced was that kids were not vulnerable to any negative impacts from Covid. The result? 32% of 5-12 year olds received two shots and only 11% of those 6 mo to 4 yo have received one shot.

The people have spoken based upon what they actually experienced, not based upon what they were told by talking heads promoting a narrative or some cherry-picked "scientific study" promoted by the same.

Remember the rush to get people vaxxed? No long term studies. We were told they were safe. Funny how more and more concerns are coming up.

CDC, FDA Flag Early Signal of Stroke Risk With Bivalent COVID Vaccine

One surveillance system detects potential link in seniors, yet multiple others show none

www.medpagetoday.com

Or as you read this you find that there are lots of things they are learning that are different from what they thought. Long term studies?

Bivalent COVID Vaccines Likely Thwarted by Immune Imprinting, Expert Says

Paul Offit, MD, also argues that boosting should be reserved for older or vulnerable individuals

www.medpagetoday.com

 

[Desert Hound]

From an expert"

"I believe we should stop trying to prevent all symptomatic infections in healthy, young people by boosting them with vaccines containing mRNA from strains that might disappear a few months later."

And...here he recommends focusing on the actual vulnerable vs boosting all.

"booster dosing is probably best reserved for the people most likely to need protection against severe disease — specifically, older adults, people with multiple coexisting conditions that put them at high risk for serious illness, and those who are immunocompromised."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2215780

 

[Desert Hound]

The CDC had/knew about this info in Nov.

And yet just now released this info.

And some people wonder why trust in the CDC has fallen off a cliff.

CDC identifies possible 'safety concern' for certain people receiving COVID vaccines

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has identified a "safety signal" in the Bivalent Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and is investigating whether the shot creates an increased stroke risk for people 65 and older.

www.foxnews.com