Vaccine

[Grace T.]

I think the implications are related to the efficacy of immunity from natural infection and repeated exposure… via vaccine or otherwise.

What it is not, is a policy recommendation to willfully expose individuals or not use NPI’s, or not promote booster shots.

Espola’s ‘fact check’ gets an passing grade from me… assuming he admits that he fact checked a presumption as to your opinion.

I agree that neither Campbell nor I are making a policy recommendation here. As I stated I don’t know who is right…Gottlieb or Campbell. But if what Campbell is saying turns out to be true, it does have certain policy implications that flow from that. I would never presume to summarize Campbell. He’s too good for that. I’m just giving a thumbnail and laying out what logically flows from that (a lot of which he touches on the video as well)

as for espola he won’t admit this is conditional in campbells video being correct. I don’t know if it is or isn’t and I’m not advocating it. He says I am. I frankly find the possibility this video would be true shocking. If dad4, roadrunner, the evil one, husker had the courage to watch, theyd find it horrifying

 

[crush]

I agree that neither Campbell nor I are making a policy recommendation here. As I stated I don’t know who is right…Gottlieb or Campbell. But if what Campbell is saying turns out to be true, it does have certain policy implications that flow from that. I would never presume to summarize Campbell. He’s too good for that. I’m just giving a thumbnail and laying out what logically flows from that (a lot of which he touches on the video as well)

as for espola he won’t admit this is conditional in campbells video being correct. I don’t know if it is or isn’t and I’m not advocating it. He says I am. I frankly find the possibility this video would be true shocking. If dad4, roadrunner, the evil one, husker had the courage to watch, theyd find it horrifying

I love you Grace. I need people like you around me all the time

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Teacher here. Opposite my expectations, 95% of my 6-7 year olds don’t care. They’re perfectly used to wearing the mask. We take them off when we go outside, and I have to remind them every single day to take them off. I rarely have to remind them to put them on. I hate wearing the mask, but it’s not that big a deal. It sure did seem to cut down on the spread of illness of all kinds from kid to kid last year. Kids don’t have political bias so their reaction is quite pure and uncomplicated.

And teachable for better or worse.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

How many payroll checks have you missed in the last 18 months? How many people have you attempted to hire in the last 18 months? How many rent checks did you try to collect in the last 18 months? Just get in line? This is the exact arrogance that I'm referring to.

Now admittedly relative to everyone else our family did great during Covid, in part because we took a common sense approach to Covid and not a fear based approach. I was really lucky too because business was great. However, many were much less fortunate. Mostly children because of the burdens we put on them, because adults couldn't handle their own business.

Right now we can't open our youth services club houses to full capacity, because we can't get employees due to the overly generous unemployment benefits. We serve underprivileged kids, they are now left without a safe place to go to after school.

We need to stop making decisions based solely on the opinions of "experts" and start considering the input of stakeholders.

Hard to convince the pro-vax folks that comparing a single event to itself is not as scientific as is comparing it to the science of past respiratory viruses that have evolved with us. They are not open to the possibility or probability that we would not be a world population of nearly 7 billion and growing if not for viral updates via viruses. Duh!

 

[crush]

And teachable for better or worse.

Bruddah IZ is back. Missed you man. Grace is singing your praises bro but we know where all your smarts come from. You crossed over and I'm super stoked to be in this war with you and all the others in our Fox hole. Sniper fire is starting to simmer and we might just be able to get out alive and free ourselves from some real selfish A-Holes. Nothing like being stuck in a Fox hole with A-Hole!!

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Update on San Diego County Covid and kids:

99.95% of age 0-19 have not been hospitalized with Covid in the last 18 months. (525 hospitalizations vs population of 867,245)
99.9998% of age 0-19 have not died with Covid in the last 18 months. (2 deaths vs population of 867,245)

Shocking right?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Bruddah IZ is back. Missed you man. Grace is singing your praises bro but we know where all your smarts come from. You crossed over and I'm super stoked to be in this war with you and all the others in our Fox hole. Sniper fire is starting to simmer and we might just be able to get out alive and free ourselves from some real selfish A-Holes. Nothing like being stuck in a Fox hole with A-Hole!!

It’s harvest season. I was out working the aina the last couple of days and prepping for the latest release of quercetins in a bottle. We picked about 2 1/2 tons of sauvignon blanc friday morn’. I’m not a whites fan but I must say some chilled sauv or fallanghina on a hot day is pretty refreshing. Otherwise the Tempranillo we picked 3 years ago is beyond it’s years so the owner made the call to release yesterday. Bold with a good nose and a nice dry finish. Two five ounce glasses a day is a part of my overall health plan. Being in the vineyards at 5am is a special experience up in Highland Valley, Escondido.

 

[Grace T.]

Surgeon on Masks

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@ Dad of 4 kids, watch this short video. I bet Father of Lies Espola will watch to fact check if this is a true video. This is from a real doctor. You can;t trust anyone if all they do is lie for political gain. All the kids are pawns and those who have a few questions are being controlled, locked out and kicked out of all that life has to offer and it's pure evil. Science Magicians. No need for a mask at all according to so any, if Dr. F said their is no need for a mask. Bruddah IZ, we need your fact sheets. Keep bringing them bro. Me & Grace and anyone with an honest brain and a heart full of gold can see the truth. Liars only lie. They just talk lie. Lying is it's own language btw. Thank you for showing us the truth IZ. The Father of Lies has been lying and making pawns out of kids. Sickos and Espola is here 24/7 with no kids. Imagine an old man on here with no kids in the game. Why? These men are full of darkness. Their hearts are so hard and their eyes are blind and their ears are clogged with bullshit from the BS in their brain. True losers in every sense. Their time is up. Nowhere to hide. The Light is never going away but the darkness and those who live in darkness will be no more. Can I get a hallelujah and a Amen? They make fun of all that has happen in the war for the last 20 years and just chalk it up as an, "oh well." They mock our soldiers who lost legs. They mock those WHO think for themselves. Their scared little men who face judgement like at no other time. Judgement is coming and it will be swift. The game is over and now you must answer to the One.

They have had more than a year to study the issue and have yet to come up with something more definitive. It’s almost as if they don’t want to know the answer.

 

[Roadrunner]

I watched the video. He doesn't say what you said he did. You have done that more than once when linking his videos. It ends up being your opinion of his opinions of articles. Did you ever play the party game Gossip or Telephone?

Exactly, he gives titles of articles, shares short quotes from various sources, but also shares partially accurate information and makes some large assumptions. It was a weird approach, in my opinion, and I wouldn't use this as a source for much. Because some of the things he said were flat out wrong, it made me question his credibility on this topic.

 

[crush]

They have had more than a year to study the issue and have yet to come up with something more definitive. It’s almost as if they don’t want to know the answer.

They know the answer and it's right in front of us for all to see.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

At the end of the day you have to be your own advocate. My dad had some severe complications after a surgery. My mom told the doctor that he was dehydrated. The doctor scolded my mom "what do you know hydration". He adamantly denied that that was the problem. After some back and forth and advocacy from the nurse they pumped him full of fluids. He was back to normal in less than a day.

The problem is not that some doctors and experts are stupid. The problem is they're arrogant and are not to be questioned. It's the same arrogance from politicians and public health officials that think they know what's best for everyone.

Doctors, not all, are in a different silo. And the malpractice insurance industry sets premiums accordingly.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Now, would it have been better if CA had closed the bars and casinos instead of the schools? Yes.

Sweden did neither.

 

[crush]

Exactly, he gives titles of articles, shares short quotes from various sources, but also shares partially accurate information and makes some large assumptions. It was a weird approach, in my opinion, and I wouldn't use this as a source for much. Because some of the things he said were flat out wrong, it made me question his credibility on this topic.

Good Sunday morning Roadrunner. Let's see if Husker wakes up from his long night. I know 100% Dad 4 had some freaking gnarly dreams and is wondering if what I'm saying might actually have some truth to it. Espola is napping and has decided to be a liar. Tenacious, I love you and I know you thought I was crazy. I'm only crazy for freedom. You can believe whatever you want. Espola is now having nightmares of cold sweats because judgement day is coming. Each will be rewarded for the work done. Remember everyone, man looks at the outward appearance and all his wealth in his barn while God almighty and Christ look at the heart and what the brain plans each day in each human. No escape. We have it all. Make the deal and enter paradise when this game is over. Evil Goalie, I'm not sure bout him. I pray for good dreams for him to see that I come from truth and only mean peace but peace for all, not just the elitist who think they own us. They did, but not no more. The light won you guys. Get busy with freedom, it's here

 

[Bruddah IZ]

They have had more than a year to study the issue and have yet to come up with something more definitive. It’s almost as if they don’t want to know the answer.

What do you mean? We have a long history of eradicating respiratory diseases by mandating SIP orders and allowing the government to deny our rights to due process. Unelected officials acting as a 3rd party have been allowed to abrogate contracts, muting the first and only two parties.

 

[Grace T.]

What do you mean? We have a long history of eradicating respiratory diseases by mandating SIP orders and allowing the government to deny our rights to due process. Unelected officials acting as a 3rd party have been allowed to abrogate contracts, muting the first and only two parties.

All I can say man is that is the Campbell video turns out to be correct you will have completely chumped out dad 4 and blown my mind…you will have been more right than him (or me for that matter)

 

[crush]

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[Roadrunner]

Here's the counter position to the booster. ..natural immunity is actually more robust than vaccine immunity just because it operates in a variety of different ways to stop infection, while the vaccines only operate on the spike protein.

Grace, there's a reason (actually more than one) for why the effective vaccines against SARS-CoV2 are focused on the spike protein, and not on trying to give the immune system a wide range of different protein targets to sample. It is also partly why the monoclonal antibody treatments for mild-moderate covid are directed only against the spike protein.

Maybe a soccer analogy would help? Let's see, your team has to defend against a PK, and in this game, the rules are such that you can add 10 additional players to try to defend against the PK. I'm going to guess that you would want to add 10 goalkeepers in goal, rather than place 10 other players all over the field. Maybe someone else has a better soccer analogy.....

 

[Grace T.]

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Exactly, he gives titles of articles, shares short quotes from various sources, but also shares partially accurate information and makes some large assumptions. It was a weird approach, in my opinion, and I wouldn't use this as a source for much. Because some of the things he said were flat out wrong, it made me question his credibility on this topic.

In other words: “I like him when he is doing this stuff with things I agree with, but on this topic I don’t like it”. Guy has been very pro npi. You see even the mask thing behind him. The fact that THIS GUY is summarizing this applicable data (which you are welcome to do a deep dive on…I’ve gone to those sources too but I could never do that data as good a summary particularly since I’m not convinced it’s right) is what’s particularly shocking. He was more dr doom at the start of this than even dad4. It’s a summary…which he optimistically leans into. It’s also an accurate description of what the uk government has decided to do and the assumptions behind its policy. Call it Sweden 2.0 if you like.

 

[espola]

I think the implications are related to the efficacy of immunity from natural infection and repeated exposure… via vaccine or otherwise.

What it is not, is a policy recommendation to willfully expose individuals or not use NPI’s, or not promote booster shots.

Espola’s ‘fact check’ gets an passing grade from me… assuming he admits that he fact checked a presumption as to your opinion.

What is evident to me from the Campbell is that those who are fully vaccinated and also have had the actual disease, before or after the vaccination, are the best protected.

What is not evident to me from the Campbell video is any reason for Grace to be crowing about it.

 

[NOVA.Dad]

Sweden did neither.

And they have the highest per-capita death rate of all of their neighboring countries.

 

[Grace T.]

Grace, there's a reason (actually more than one) for why the effective vaccines against SARS-CoV2 are focused on the spike protein, and not on trying to give the immune system a wide range of different protein targets to sample. It is also partly why the monoclonal antibody treatments for mild-moderate covid are directed only against the spike protein.

Maybe a soccer analogy would help? Let's see, your team has to defend against a PK, and in this game, the rules are such that you can add 10 additional players to try to defend against the PK. I'm going to guess that you would want to add 10 goalkeepers in goal, rather than place 10 other players all over the field. Maybe someone else has a better soccer analogy.....

I agree with your first paragraph. It’s why I’ve been in the bruddah can’t be right camp. It’s why I’m not all in to the Campbell video. Totally understand and agree with the point you are making.

but you soccer analogy fails. Reason we know this is because of the standard idfk defense. The defense is to have the field players form a wall in goal and have the gk rush out. If you had 10 gks try to rush out (instead of forming the wall) they’d get in a jumble trying to grab the ball. There’s also be no one on offense. I’d rather have 2 gks (one for each post), 8 super tall field players to form the wall across goal, and 1 player who is faster than anyone else to go on a breakaway.