Foolish, stupid and a lie. No jab, no mask, no fear and eat healthy, veggies, fruits, nuts & salads, No meat or booz. This is the true truth of all this. My personal experience does not need no Campbell study or any study. My eyes and ears are not stupid or blind. This is a lie everyone. Espola is not a Dr. he has no kids playing soccer so his only business here is to talk you into getting jabbed and not to believe in Christ. He is on the side of lying and that is where Lucifer holds court.
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Because you are moron that can’t even see the logic of what you are saying. If vaccination substantially removes the risk of severe disease (which is a big if in the line of thinking the uk govt has outlined) and assuming you want to you know actually end the pandemic by having it people “best protected”…you’d want people to have a vaccine and a mild case of the disease itself. Doing npis that prevent this, particularly when people are at the height of their vaccine immunity, would be counterproductive. Hence the uk approach
I'm struggling with this, but I can't make sense of it. The reason you are acting so badly is because I am a moron?
Roadrunner
SILVER
No Grace, you are putting words into my mouth. On top of that it is not even a good, thoughtful summary. I have been in this area scientifically for a while, so yes, I'm trying to keep up on the papers. I don't spend time watching videos and caring what props they have in the background.
And then Grace picks and chooses from his statements to further her own agenda.
Ah I thought you were attacking the messenger Campbell. So if I’m mistaken sorry for that. But if you’ve read the papers then what are your opinions on the Uk approach?
so if you are in the area please opine as in myself am trying to come to a conclusion. The us andUk approaches are beginning to diverge. The us particularly blue areas the Biden admin can influence want to hold down natural immunity through lower level npis. The Uk has lifted most restrictions and is pursuing natural immunity as a component. Who is right and why?
Again you are a liar, liar. Because I’ve been clear I’m not sure which is the correct approach. Liar.
and a liar. You speak Satan bro. It's obvious you were EOTL and still have him in your heart. You only have one way out. EOTL treated Grace the same way. You have a problem with woman who can out fox you and smart you. You dont like woman. You were hurt by them when you were a young boy. Total loser & liar you have become Espola. I stand for the truth and the truth has no side, it's just the plain truth and nothing but the truth. Jesus is the way and the truth and that is 100% true. I love him
No way around the truth dude. Time is up, right? You do feel it now. This why I'm the only one you have ignored. Light & darkness have nothing in common. Stay alone in your dark cave unless you want to clean yourself of the dirt in your callous heart.Of course you are struggling. What else is new.
I'm struggling to come up with one. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me that concentrating on the spike protein makes sense because that is the part of the covid exterior that is most unlike any other passive organism the vaccine-induced antibodies might encounter. Perhaps a different soccer analogy is that if you know the PK shooter always shoots low and to his left, you defend against that.
Bruddah IZ
DA
As I've posted before, Campbell is not saying anything new regarding natural immunity. Except Mrs IZ is going to hate that I'll not be clearing the thickets from my nostrils anytime soon. As long as I can still see through them when I'm driving, I'll be good. I loved Vaxspola's responses. A lot of nothingness for having watched the video. I love watching him argue as an M.D., epidemiologist or any of the other titles that he has attributed to himself.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Was it worth it?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Tell us about them Gamespola.
I thought my preaching days were over when things got nasty in 2017. However, I'm back with a smile and message. Open your brain and let the dear savior in. It will unlock the key to the other 95-90% of the brain you dont use. Some on here are using only maybe 3% from my guess.
I will share good gospel news from time to time to help you who have no faith.
God News Sharing: My pal Ryan was going through some tough times last year at this time in California. He had to move back to Ohio because the company he worked for went OB because of the pandemic. He was sad to leave but someone poked him about what life is really about for the two years he was here. He just got baptized and thanked me for the pokes. Espola, Husker, Evil, Dad of 4 kids, Messy, EOTL and the New Roadrunner, this song is for you. My dad's eyes were opened before he died and it's "never too late to capitulate." it's never too late to see the light fellas. This songs for you guys,
I will share good gospel news from time to time to help you who have no faith.
God News Sharing: My pal Ryan was going through some tough times last year at this time in California. He had to move back to Ohio because the company he worked for went OB because of the pandemic. He was sad to leave but someone poked him about what life is really about for the two years he was here. He just got baptized and thanked me for the pokes. Espola, Husker, Evil, Dad of 4 kids, Messy, EOTL and the New Roadrunner, this song is for you. My dad's eyes were opened before he died and it's "never too late to capitulate." it's never too late to see the light fellas. This songs for you guys,
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Bruddah IZ
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That's not saying much when you consider the history of viruses that I've posted about and that has been largely ignored by Dadspola, Docspola, and Hus pola et al.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Writing in Spiked, Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya decry the smear campaign against the Great Barrington Declaration. Two slices:
In October 2020, along with Professor Sunetra Gupta, we authored the Great Barrington Declaration, in which we argued for a ‘focused protection’ pandemic strategy. We called for better protection of older and other high-risk people, while arguing that children should be allowed to go to school and young adults should be free to live more normal lives. We understood that it might lead to vigorous and heated discussions, but we did not expect a multi-pronged propaganda campaign that gravely distorted our arguments and smeared us. We are just three public-health scientists, after all. So how and why did this slanderous counterattack emerge?
In his recent book, Spike, Jeremy Farrar – a SAGE member and director of the Wellcome Trust – has provided a helpful hint: the political strategist and the prime minister’s chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, planned a propaganda campaign against the Great Barrington Declaration. Farrar’s exact words are that Cummings ‘wanted to run an aggressive press campaign against those behind the Great Barrington Declaration and others opposed to blanket Covid-19 restrictions’. Cummings and Farrar preferred a blanket lockdown strategy, believing it would avoid a winter Covid wave.
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[Matt] Hancock, Anthony Fauci, Jeremy Farrar and prominent journalists also mischaracterized the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’, even though any strategy will lead to herd immunity sooner or later. Yes, the Declaration discussed herd immunity. It would be irresponsible to ignore such a basic biological fact. But to characterize the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’ is like describing a pilot’s plan to land a plane as a ‘gravity strategy’. The goal of a pilot is to land the plane safely while managing the force of gravity. The goal of any Covid pandemic plan should be to minimize disease mortality and the collateral harms from the plan itself, while managing the build-up of immunity in the population. Shockingly, some politicians, journalists and even scientists denied the very existence of herd immunity. Some even questioned the existence of natural immunity from Covid, which is a bit like denying gravity.
In October 2020, along with Professor Sunetra Gupta, we authored the Great Barrington Declaration, in which we argued for a ‘focused protection’ pandemic strategy. We called for better protection of older and other high-risk people, while arguing that children should be allowed to go to school and young adults should be free to live more normal lives. We understood that it might lead to vigorous and heated discussions, but we did not expect a multi-pronged propaganda campaign that gravely distorted our arguments and smeared us. We are just three public-health scientists, after all. So how and why did this slanderous counterattack emerge?
In his recent book, Spike, Jeremy Farrar – a SAGE member and director of the Wellcome Trust – has provided a helpful hint: the political strategist and the prime minister’s chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, planned a propaganda campaign against the Great Barrington Declaration. Farrar’s exact words are that Cummings ‘wanted to run an aggressive press campaign against those behind the Great Barrington Declaration and others opposed to blanket Covid-19 restrictions’. Cummings and Farrar preferred a blanket lockdown strategy, believing it would avoid a winter Covid wave.
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[Matt] Hancock, Anthony Fauci, Jeremy Farrar and prominent journalists also mischaracterized the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’, even though any strategy will lead to herd immunity sooner or later. Yes, the Declaration discussed herd immunity. It would be irresponsible to ignore such a basic biological fact. But to characterize the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’ is like describing a pilot’s plan to land a plane as a ‘gravity strategy’. The goal of a pilot is to land the plane safely while managing the force of gravity. The goal of any Covid pandemic plan should be to minimize disease mortality and the collateral harms from the plan itself, while managing the build-up of immunity in the population. Shockingly, some politicians, journalists and even scientists denied the very existence of herd immunity. Some even questioned the existence of natural immunity from Covid, which is a bit like denying gravity.
Roadrunner
SILVER
Grace, I was correcting the assumption you made about my reaction to the video. I'm not attacking any person, but I did criticize the video.
As to the question of what is the best policy for governments to pursue? I'm sure that depends on the situation in their particular area. It also depends on what the goals are of the government or other group setting the policy. It's complex, as many on here have discussed.
From the biology side, knowing just how destructive this virus can be once set loose in our bodies and the damage that an infection can lead to, if given a choice, I would not want anyone to get infected. There's also the risk that a variant with a high mortality rate could emerge. No one can know whether this will or won't happen. This, I would advise against choices where the virus is permitted to thrive.
Gravity is still a theory last I heard. No one here is ready for that discussion so I wont bring that up anymore. Were still here arguing if God is real with the scared men. Once we ALL see God is the great I AM, then we can move unto Real Science and Religion for $1,000, not Science Magicians and Weird Science for $1.
Bruddah IZ
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At least some Australians are actively resisting the thugs who govern that once-free country. (DBx: Note that Victoria’s premier, Dan Andrews, declared that Friday’s 61 new cases [cases, not deaths] of Covid in that state – a state with a population of 6.7 million – portends “catastrophe.” On Friday, the seven-day average of new Covid-19 cases was a whopping 39. Sixty-one is 0.00091 percent of Victoria’s population; 39 is 0.00058 percent. [There’s been no Covid death in Victoria since October 27th, when two people died.] When government gets to define such a situation as a “catastrophe” in the making, and then to use this ‘evidence’ of a coming “catastrophe” as an excuse to unleash unprecedented restrictions on freedom, restrictions enforced with unprecedented powers, tyranny has truly arrived. Meanwhile in Sweden, the seven-day average of Covid deaths is now one.)
I added a word in red. It 100% depends on the "political" situation and are where you live Rr. None of this is true anymore. The gig is up. Your side cheated and got caught. The bribes and blackmail will shock you to the core. You will be sick and depressed because you voted for a lie and evil team of evil doers. Killing babies and then selling their parts is evil to the core. No one will escape the truth. Good people who were tricked will need to see that for what it is and then learn from it and make sure not to ever be tricked again.
Zero covid is not one of your choices. It’s neither the Gottlieb or uk approach. China australia and New Zealand are still clinging to the fantasy of zero covid and you can see how that’s going. Believing in zero covid given how the vaccine is performing is a fantasy
neither is the no further variant possibility because most of the world won’t be vaccinated until 2023.
further you forwarded nothing to support your assertion the virus is “destructive” among the vaccinated…and if so you would be saying the vaccine is at least a partial failure
I asked for your opinion as to the two approaches and you threw up two fantasies. Slightly disappointed as you struck me as thoughtful.