Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
Whose mother is this...? Outlaw did you let your mom out of her sex dungeon again?
So 4/5 people should be beholden to the needs of the 1/5? Business, freedoms, work, life, etc., so 1/5 can dictate the path forward...it’s like 1/5 kids struggle in school and need tutoring, so all kids get mandated tutoring whether they need it or not...one size fits all solutions very rarely work...you just spelled out the Pareto Principle ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle) ....crazy when the tail wags the dog.
600k cancer deaths a year....the Flu Death estimates are 30-65k, but we are going to change the way we live for Covid...does the other stuff not matter anymore?
The at-risk cross section should not be driving decisions or behaviors for those with low risk. The at risk group needs to be managed differently. It is not all or nothing, one way or no way.
200k is .058% of the population in the US. Lots of people and very, very tragic. Not minimizing that. 99.942% are left. There has to be a better way than what is being done currently. Suicide, mental health, social, economic, etc, etc. all these factors matter in making policy, decisions, and a path forward. It’s multi-dimensional. Problem is this board is a microcosm of the world. We can’t agree on shit, and the end results are mandated solutions that blow.
I agree that one size fits all doesn't work.So 4/5 people should be beholden to the needs of the 1/5? Business, freedoms, work, life, etc., so 1/5 can dictate the path forward...it’s like 1/5 kids struggle in school and need tutoring, so all kids get mandated tutoring whether they need it or not...one size fits all solutions very rarely work...you just spelled out the Pareto Principle ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle) ....crazy when the tail wags the dog.
600k cancer deaths a year....the Flu Death estimates are 30-65k, but we are going to change the way we live for Covid...does the other stuff not matter anymore?
The at-risk cross section should not be driving decisions or behaviors for those with low risk. The at risk group needs to be managed differently. It is not all or nothing, one way or no way.
200k is .058% of the population in the US. Lots of people and very, very tragic. Not minimizing that. 99.942% are left. There has to be a better way than what is being done currently. Suicide, mental health, social, economic, etc, etc. all these factors matter in making policy, decisions, and a path forward. It’s multi-dimensional. Problem is this board is a microcosm of the world. We can’t agree on shit, and the end results are mandated solutions that blow.
Yeah....I already determined the 20/21 soccer season is gone here in socal and I doubt very seriously kids will be back at school. I have been managing my family's activities based on risk of infection but the Government doesn't appear to be managing on the same basis. I knew when the protests happened the blame in increases were going to be all on the protests even though we opened at the same time. The combination of the two makes it impossible to know what contributed more to the current increases here in OC. Of course if they were appropriately contact tracing they would know but they would never tell us. I doubt very seriously there is any appropriately organized contact tracing occurring in OC because they won't even list restaurants where COVID infections have caused shut down so people can get tested.I'm hearing some chatter that the governor may put SoCal back into at least partial lockdown (or at a minimum halt reopening) because he's worried about things exploding with the 4th. If so that seriously sets back the season which means no way for tournaments to go in August, and season at best becomes a 50/50 proposition.
That doesn't remove his 4th problem if he allows protests to continue because 4th celebrations are speech. The line of flag burning cases pretty much established that, so restrictions must be content neutral and you can't prohibit one and not the other or even limit gathering sizes.
I'm also beginning to think that one of the drivers of this has been not just the protests (which are outside which would reduce transmission) but gatherings in public homes (whether before people head out for protests, or parties, b days, weddings, wakes and because they have no where else to go) and cars on the way to and from. It would explain why it's happening with younger people who are the ones doing the gatherings. If true, both the new lockdowns and mask wearing will do nothing to stop that vector because short of Chinese style house arrest the gatherings (in aircon) will continue to happen and people don't wear masks in other people's houses.
Whose mother is this...? Outlaw did you let your mom out of her sex dungeon again?
I'm hearing some chatter that the governor may put SoCal back into at least partial lockdown (or at a minimum halt reopening) because he's worried about things exploding with the 4th. If so that seriously sets back the season which means no way for tournaments to go in August, and season at best becomes a 50/50 proposition.
That doesn't remove his 4th problem if he allows protests to continue because 4th celebrations are speech. The line of flag burning cases pretty much established that, so restrictions must be content neutral and you can't prohibit one and not the other or even limit gathering sizes.
I'm also beginning to think that one of the drivers of this has been not just the protests (which are outside which would reduce transmission) but gatherings in public homes (whether before people head out for protests, or parties, b days, weddings, wakes and because they have no where else to go) and cars on the way to and from. It would explain why it's happening with younger people who are the ones doing the gatherings. If true, both the new lockdowns and mask wearing will do nothing to stop that vector because short of Chinese style house arrest the gatherings (in aircon) will continue to happen and people don't wear masks in other people's houses.
Good, that’s what you idiots deserve. If you want to live vicariously through your kids, put on your mask and stay home.
There is no stopping protests. Period. Get over it. The Governor is not going to shoot and tear people and he shouldn’t. Protests are not an excuse for you and your mostly racist anti-science moron friends to continue being idiots about the things you actually can control. I get that you don’t believe that systemic racism and police brutality justify protesting and the collateral covid damage that will inevitably result from it. Well, too bad, that is out of your control. At any rate, millions upon millions of people disagree with you, whereas there are only a handful of racists in CA who think protests are a great excuse to get a haircut. But like you said, there is no one-size-fits all solution, so protests can happen because this is not a police state and actual and real constitutional concerns exist about trying to stop them even if you don’t use bullets and tear gas. You going to Applebees or kiddie team sports right now, well, that is just stupid.
I am not at all surprised that you’re all now blaming black people for the fact that lil’ Kaityln, Caitlin, Katelyn, and Kate-Lyn can’t play soccer right now. That is what racists do. How dare they get upset about getting murdered by the police and systemically discriminated against at all steps of life, right? Shelter-in-place is their fault because they and their friends got all uppity over something that you don’t consider to be a big deal?
If you want protests to stop, more of you need to actually show empathy for what is happening to them instead of blaming them that you need to keep using DoorDash. In other words, the protests are not the fault of the people protesting. They are direct consequence of the fact that there are too many people like you who are ok with racism and police brutality.
My mother died of cancer a couple of years ago... but thanks for asking.
Is the lady wrong? The pussies in charge of these cities let morons block freeways, burn down businesses and walk up and down streets wearing no masks. Aren't YOU tired of being told to do something the feral savages aren't doing? You think THIS lady is responsible for the spike? Do you see videos of HER walking out of department stores with an armful of stolen goods because security can't stop her? Was SHE driving on meth, THC and Fentanyl while passing counterfeit money? Could it have been HER holding a gun to a pregnant woman's belly while robbing her?
A couple of bullets to 1-2 heads would have solved this problem very early. Making an example can save lives. Trump wants law, order and an economy that's robust and employs people. Libtards and their media want hate, rage, and chaos. You decide which one YOU want.
@Soccermaverick, I think what he is saying is it’s his half-sister/cousin/wife.
Man the bar for racism has gotten really low these days. I'm obviously a super racist because I use whataboutisms and I want my kid to play soccer right now. I guess all the money I've raised for programs for underprivileged kids (mostly minorities) is just due to my white guilt and trying to make myself feel better about my obvious prejudice.
4/5 are beholden to 1/5, eh? You’re making up numbers that, coincidentally almost exactly backwards. Actually, 75% of Californians supported the shelter-in-place rules when they were in effect.
Really, it’s only about 1/10th of Californians who think there’s a constitutional right to go to Costco without a mask.
But I love the detach-from-reality make up numbers game; let’s play! 87.763636% of Californians agree that most soccer parents are idiots. 71.9966% believe soccer is the worst of team sports .0000000000001% of those who committed suicide did so due to covid shelter-in-place rules, whereas there would have been a 65.88665% increase had there been no shelter-in-place because they were distraught that grandma died of covid. Business would be down two hundred bazillion percent ifcwe hadn’t sheltered-in-place and 8x as many people had died of covid so far.
@watfly only......God knows the truth and he knows the motives of everyone's heart. Not for us to judge. One day a time. My true friends, who are my bros, know the truth and that's what matters. Not a message board thank God. Lot's of pain going around and that fear virus is real. I have so much to share but I wont because no one knows me here and I have no need to share my life anymore. I came here to talk girls soccer. I do hope for peace and all of us to care for each other and listen to each other without violence. Keep helping everyoneMan the bar for racism has gotten really low these days. I'm obviously a super racist because I use whataboutisms and I want my kid to play soccer right now. I guess all the money I've raised for programs for underprivileged kids (mostly minorities) is just due to my white guilt and trying to make myself feel better about my obvious prejudice.
With all due respect... did she die from mouth cancer... you should get yours checked...it may be hereditary...My mother died of cancer a couple of years ago... but thanks for asking.
Is the lady wrong? The pussies in charge of these cities let morons block freeways, burn down businesses and walk up and down streets wearing no masks. Aren't YOU tired of being told to do something the feral savages aren't doing? You think THIS lady is responsible for the spike? Do you see videos of HER walking out of department stores with an armful of stolen goods because security can't stop her? Was SHE driving on meth, THC and Fentanyl while passing counterfeit money? Could it have been HER holding a gun to a pregnant woman's belly while robbing her?
A couple of bullets to 1-2 heads would have solved this problem very early. Making an example can save lives. Trump wants law, order and an economy that's robust and employs people. Libtards and their media want hate, rage, and chaos. You decide which one YOU want.
There is no stopping protests. Period. Get over it. The Governor is not going to shoot and tear people and he shouldn’t. Protests are not an excuse for you and your mostly racist anti-science moron friends to continue being idiots about the things you actually can control. I get that you don’t believe that systemic racism and police brutality justify protesting and the collateral covid damage that will inevitably result from it. Well, too bad, that is out of your control. At any rate, millions upon millions of people disagree with you, whereas there are only a handful of racists in CA who think protests are a great excuse to get a haircut. But like you said, there is no one-size-fits all solution, so protests can happen because this is not a police state and actual and real constitutional concerns exist about trying to stop them even if you don’t use bullets and tear gas. You going to Applebees or kiddie team sports right now, well, that is just stupid.
Who called you a super racist?Man the bar for racism has gotten really low these days. I'm obviously a super racist because I use whataboutisms and I want my kid to play soccer right now. I guess all the money I've raised the last 15 years for programs for underprivileged kids (mostly minorities) is just due to my white guilt and trying to make myself feel better about my obvious prejudice.
Thanks for your support, but EOTL has shown me the light. I'm resigning my youth organization Board position and making protest signs right now. I'm also prepping my statue removal ropes since Gov Coumo has called statue removal a "healthy expression". It's time to do something substantive and not virtue signal about helping underprivileged kids.@watfly only......God knows the truth and he knows the motives of everyone's heart. Not for us to judge. One day a time. My true friends, who are my bros, know the truth and that's what matters. Not a message board thank God. Lot's of pain going around and that fear virus is real. I have so much to share but I wont because no one knows me here and I have no need to share my life anymore. I came here to talk girls soccer. I do hope for peace and all of us to care for each other and listen to each other without violence. Keep helping everyone
You? The one who praises left wing street protests, then complains about the public health consequences of a right wing rally?Nah. Like Governor Newsom, I’m gonna be around for a while to keep reminding everyone how stupid you are.
No one. It was just a sarcastic response to EOTL's claims.Who called you a super racist?