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EOTL said:
Good, that’s what you idiots deserve. If you want to live vicariously through your kids, put on your mask and stay home.

There is no stopping protests. Period. Get over it. The Governor is not going to shoot and tear people and he shouldn’t. Protests are not an excuse for you and your mostly racist anti-science moron friends to continue being idiots about the things you actually can control. I get that you don’t believe that systemic racism and police brutality justify protesting and the collateral covid damage that will inevitably result from it. Well, too bad, that is out of your control. At any rate, millions upon millions of people disagree with you, whereas there are only a handful of racists in CA who think protests are a great excuse to get a haircut. But like you said, there is no one-size-fits all solution, so protests can happen because this is not a police state and actual and real constitutional concerns exist about trying to stop them even if you don’t use bullets and tear gas. You going to Applebees or kiddie team sports right now, well, that is just stupid.

I am not at all surprised that you’re all now blaming black people for the fact that lil’ Kaityln, Caitlin, Katelyn, and Kate-Lyn can’t play soccer right now. That is what racists do. How dare they get upset about getting murdered by the police and systemically discriminated against at all steps of life, right? Shelter-in-place is their fault because they and their friends got all uppity over something that you don’t consider to be a big deal?

If you want protests to stop, more of you need to actually show empathy for what is happening to them instead of blaming them that you need to keep using DoorDash. In other words, the protests are not the fault of the people protesting. They are direct consequence of the fact that there are too many people like you who are ok with racism and police brutality.
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Step one: praise protests during an epidemic.

Step two: accuse other people of being anti-science.

Apparently EOTL doesn’t believe epidemiology is a science? Or maybe he just doesn’t think the rules apply to him.

If you want the current windbag out of the oval office, stop spreading disease in the streets and start making phone calls for the Democrats. I know it is less fun than tearing down statues of abolitionist war heroes, but it is long past time to grow up.
 
Woobie06 said:
Actually, I was using the prior posters 20% example and ran with it, and bringing up the Pareto Principle since it matched. Not making up numbers...although the Pareto Principle does have some merit. I’d be willing to wager that 80%+ percent of the deaths are from a 20%- group: age, pre-existing, etc...Focus the effort on the 20% not the 100%...I’m not talking about this in terms of soccer...my kid will done with soccer around 22...she will have 70 more years + on the earth god willing...soccer is a thing she does, not who she is, and is not the most important thing in the world by a long shot. She does love it, and does want to play. In fact they have camps starting Sunday and she can’t wait.

I’m suggesting that we have adjusted plans for groups that are more at risk than others and that it should not be a one-size-fits all approach....the absolutes are getting real old...all cops are racist, everyone carries the same risk, etc...blah...blah...blah. I support wearing a mask and following the rules/laws even if I don’t necessarily agree with them.

I actually said in an earlier post that I agree with what Newsome did originally and lock us down, as we had very little information at the time. Things change over time and the lack of creativity, and leadership is astonishing, but I digress. All these little tweaks and rules give the appearance of action when none is really being taken. It’s an illusion. My numbers were the 200k (death count)/340mm (est. us pop). They were back of the napkin used for perspective. Not intended for Govt or commercial use.
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The Pareto principle, by its very nature is a fake thing. Giving a fake thing a name that includes the word principle in it doesn’t make something real. It only show the desperation of those who have neither facts nor science on their side try to convince themselves that they do. According to the Pareto principle, 80% of anti-vaxxers are really stupid, whereas the remaining 20% are really, really stupid. Cuz the Pareto Principle proves it.
 
watfly said:
Man the bar for racism has gotten really low these days. I'm obviously a super racist because I use whataboutisms and I want my kid to play soccer right now. I guess all the money I've raised the last 15 years for programs for underprivileged kids (mostly minorities) is just due to my white guilt and trying to make myself feel better about my obvious prejudice.
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I lack sufficient information to determine you are a racist. I’m putting you in the “aider and abettor” category for now.
 
dad4 said:
You? The one who praises left wing street protests, then complains about the public health consequences of a right wing rally?

Your consistency on the issue speaks for itself.
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I am 100% consistent. There is no way anyone can stop people from protesting. All anyone can do is understand why it is happening. The rally in Tulsa, on the other hand, could easily have been stopped by a single person and, more importantly, by a person in a leadership position. The only ones being inconsistent are those complaining that a public gathering that cannot be stopped is bad right now, but support a leader who actually has control and is single-handledly responsible for causing the very thing you claim to be upset about.

If a bunch of you tiki torchers decide to get together again and roast some marshmallows over a burning cross in Charlottesville, I promise I won’t complain how its your fault that my kid can’t play team sports for a while.
 
EOTL said:
The Pareto principle, by its very nature is a fake thing. Giving a fake thing a name that includes the word principle in it doesn’t make something real. It only show the desperation of those who have neither facts nor science on their side try to convince themselves that they do. According to the Pareto principle, 80% of anti-vaxxers are really stupid, whereas the remaining 20% are really, really stupid. Cuz the Pareto Principle proves it.
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Well...we can agree to disagree. It’s a frequently used principle in a lot of different disciplines - Business, Healthcare, Software Engineering...it’s based on identifying, categorizing, and stratifying the underlying data into groups so you can identify where to focus, solve problems, or invest more. Not fake.

Like 80% of the junk on this board comes from 20% of the posters...something like that...
 
White supremacy is an attitude... I have seen all races try and use their supremacy... they are tea partiers, libertarian, Republicans, Democrats... whatever... ... Bottom line if you don’t practice anti-racism...you are a racist.

www.nbcnews.com

Kellie Chauvin and a history of Asian women being judged for whom they marry

Remarks about the Chauvins' interracial marriage come from historical emasculation of Asian men and fetishization of Asian women, experts say.
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Soccermaverick said:
With all due respect... did she die from mouth cancer... you should get yours checked...it may be hereditary...

Wow in the same paragraph

“A couple of bullets to 1-2 heads would have solved this problem very early.Libtards and their media want hate, rage, and chaos”

Outlaw...you really should not be around children
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Awe... does my posting facts make your vagina hurt?
 
watfly said:
No one. It was just a sarcastic response to EOTL's claims.

On another note and this is a genuine question to one of your posts. In a previous post I had claimed that the lockdown particularly as it relates to education is disproportionally impacting underprivileged kids and that the quality of education was an issue before Covid and the lockdown is only making it worse. (You busted on GraceT claiming that she only cares about it now which I felt was unfair, but so be it, she can defend herself).

Now the genuine question, how would you go about improving the education system for minorities? I believe you mentioned your an attorney? and obviously your wife is very accomplished (congrats for her award) so I think you would be uniquely qualified to address this question. In a generic sense, I feel schools need more accountability and/or competition. While I'm in favor of school choice (ie competition), and realize its maybe not considered PC, I don't think it gets to the root of the problem. Honestly, just curious about your opinion, not trying to debate you.
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The best thing we can do for education is have a fair and just society that’s a meritocracy. The number 1 indication of success in school for kids is their parents education level. Since blacks and other minorities have been oppressed by systemic racism we have yet to excel academically in the USA in large numbers. There isn’t an inherent problem with people of African descent learning academics because their ancestors created the first universities-the problem is systemic racism and de facto segregation. We also need culturally and socially relevant education because folks are tired about learning lies about great white men.

As for myself, I was a founding board member of KIPP Bayview Academy and that model works well for the poorest of kids-essentially keep kids in school from sun up to sun down and away from their dysfunctional home environments;
I was also a founding board member of Escuela Bilingue Internacional an Independent IB school in Oakland. My daughter is good friends with the daughter of Kos from the Daily Kos so we started a school for our kids. However, I left after a few years because many of my liberal friends who talked the talk were ultimately full of shit when it came to giving scholarships and support to disenfranchised kids. Saddest thing ever and my first experience with liberal racism/classism.

I have recently purchased a building in Tallahassee, FL to start a small independent school for disenfranchised youth. My school will be a hybrid of the KIPP and IB schools mentioned above. The school is aprox from 1/2 mile from FSU, aprox. 2 miles from FAMU and across the street from a huge park and community rec center. I have also purchased aprox 5 houses around FSU so my poorest students wont have to worry about housing if they go to FSU or FAMU for university.

I don’t think I will solve the problem of access to education but I am hell bent on giving back to ALL kids that come from similar backgrounds as me.
 
The Outlaw said:
My mother died of cancer a couple of years ago... but thanks for asking.

Is the lady wrong? The pussies in charge of these cities let morons block freeways, burn down businesses and walk up and down streets wearing no masks. Aren't YOU tired of being told to do something the feral savages aren't doing? You think THIS lady is responsible for the spike? Do you see videos of HER walking out of department stores with an armful of stolen goods because security can't stop her? Was SHE driving on meth, THC and Fentanyl while passing counterfeit money? Could it have been HER holding a gun to a pregnant woman's belly while robbing her?

A couple of bullets to 1-2 heads would have solved this problem very early. Making an example can save lives. Trump wants law, order and an economy that's robust and employs people. Libtards and their media want hate, rage, and chaos. You decide which one YOU want.
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No meth for her, but definitely opiods, anti-drepressants, bi-polar drugs, and all kinds of approved drugs that only her type takes. It's just a mask. People act like they are in jail if asked to wear a mask. Dumbest argument in history is to think that freedoms are violated because people are mandated to wear a mask
 
Woobie06 said:
What is practicing anti-racism? If I treat all people fairly, with respect, provide opportunities to all in the workplace, and just try to follow the rule of treat others the way I want to be treated, is that practicing anti-racism or are you talking about something different?
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It is not good enough to practice the golden rule...you must work at your implicit bias...

Anti-racism includes beliefs, actions, movements, and policies adopted or developed to oppose racism.

"Anti-racism can be defined as some form of focused and sustained action, which includes inter-cultural, inter-faith, multi-lingual and inter-abled (i.e. differently abled) communities with the intent to change a system or an institutional policy, practice, or procedure which has racist effects."[1]

Get this book to educate yourself...

This Book Is Anti-Racist: 20 Lessons on How to Wake Up, Take Action, and Do The Work https://www.amazon.com/dp/0711245215/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2CJ9EbX53Y4PV
 
MacDre said:
The best thing we can do for education is have a fair and just society that’s a meritocracy. The number 1 indication of success in school for kids is their parents education level. Since blacks and other minorities have been oppressed by systemic racism we have yet to excel academically in the USA in large numbers. There isn’t an inherent problem with people of African descent learning academics because their ancestors created the first universities-the problem is systemic racism and de facto segregation. We also need culturally and socially relevant education because folks are tired about learning lies about great white men.

As for myself, I was a founding board member of KIPP Bayview Academy and that model works well for the poorest of kids-essentially keep kids in school from sun up to sun down and away from their dysfunctional home environments;
I was also a founding board member of Escuela Bilingue Internacional an Independent IB school in Oakland. My daughter is good friends with the daughter of Kos from the Daily Kos so we started a school for our kids. However, I left after a few years because many of my liberal friends who talked the talk were ultimately full of shit when it came to giving scholarships and support to disenfranchised kids. Saddest thing ever and my first experience with liberal racism/classism.

I have recently purchased a building in Tallahassee, FL to start a small independent school for disenfranchised youth. My school will be a hybrid of the KIPP and IB schools mentioned above. The school is aprox from 1/2 mile from FSU, aprox. 2 miles from FAMU and across the street from a huge park and community rec center. I have also purchased aprox 5 houses around FSU so my poorest students wont have to worry about housing if they go to FSU or FAMU for university.

I don’t think I will solve the problem of access to education but I am hell bent on giving back to ALL kids that come from similar backgrounds as me.
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No, they weren't oppressed with systemic racism. If they were, YOU wouldn't have gone to law school. Thousands, if not millions, of black people would not have gone to law school, medical school or gotten MBAs.

Stop with the fucking, wouldn't victimhood. Blacks aren't as educated because an excessive number are born into single family households and can't, or don't, value education. Period.
 
Soccermaverick said:
White supremacy is an attitude... I have seen all races try and use their supremacy... they are tea partiers, libertarian, Republicans, Democrats... whatever... ... Bottom line if you don’t practice anti-racism...you are a racist.

www.nbcnews.com

Kellie Chauvin and a history of Asian women being judged for whom they marry

Remarks about the Chauvins' interracial marriage come from historical emasculation of Asian men and fetishization of Asian women, experts say.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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It’s more than attitude...it also lots of lies. Columbus discovered America, Jesus is white, Greek mythology are all lies that are consistently told to make white folks supreme.

You want to end white supremacy? Just tell the truth!
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
No meth for her, but definitely opiods, anti-drepressants, bi-polar drugs, and all kinds of approved drugs that only her type takes. It's just a mask. People act like they are in jail if asked to wear a mask. Dumbest argument in history is to think that freedoms are violated because people are mandated to wear a mask
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I never said I agreed with her... but her point is correct. I wear a mask because it's the right thing to do. Her point is that its bullshit to allow thugs and rioters to do whatever the fuck they want and then shame everyone else.
 
The Outlaw said:
No, they weren't oppressed with systemic racism. If they were, YOU wouldn't have gone to law school. Thousands, if not millions, of black people would not have gone to law school, medical school or gotten MBAs.

Stop with the fucking, wouldn't victimhood. Blacks aren't as educated because an excessive number are born into single family households and can't, or don't, value education. Period.
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Thanks for adding support to my position genius.
 
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