How’s the 2023-24 season going?

And again - it still doesn't compute. Which 2 Slammers FC RL teams do you think cannot pull players up to the Slammers FC NL team? If you're saying that Slammers Koge RL can't pull kids up to Slammers FC NL, and Slammers FC RL can't pull kids up to Slammers Koge NL - we are all in agreement. Is that what you mean? I take TDJ's statements as there are 2 separate Slammers FC RL teams, all within the same Slammers program, that can club pass up to the NL team easily. Are there 2 Slammers FC RL teams or not?

There is one "Slammers FC" team and one "Slammers FC HB Koge" team.
 
Pats vs Slammers 1-1. Are Pats really up and coming ? Or is Mojave division on a down year? Surf putting the hammer on Sharks 12-1 ouch
I think they are on the up and up. They have a lot of good talent that were overlooked by other teams. CB from Koge NL, some RL player from Blues, Slammers RL keeper from last year, a blues player from F1 that was offered RL but didn’t make the jump last year and is now on this years OC’s PDP. Top talent that was displaced from Rebels NPL that went to Strikers E64 that helped made them successful, some Liverpool DPL players and a handful kf

Coach Miguel really did his homework over the summer and was seen at every tournament big and small scouring for the next player for this team. I’ve never seen a coach put that much work in to scouting like he did.

I’m not saying they’re going to win the Sonoran, but they’re a completely different team than what was out there last year.

What is more impressive besides the 1-1 tie was that the day before Legends was held scoreless at 0-0 against Slammers where as Pats at least got on the score board. That’s even with one of their main strikers who is still out with a clavicle fracture suffered against the Surf NL match they had when they were leading before she got injured.
 
To me it sounds like using ths Slammers vs Slammers Koge example players need to be registered to one program or the other. If you're registered to Koge can play on their ECNL ECRL and E64 teams.

Here's where it gets a little murky + would likely get a review from ECNL leadership. Technically Slammers and Slammers Koge could move players between teams mid-season. But there would be an entire paperwork + DOC approval process. This would be like moving a player from Surf to Blues mid-season.

So technically moving players between to two Slammers entities could occur. However in reality it's not something you could do more than once per season.

Yup.

As to why teams choose to roster a limited number of players? Probably just to create exclusivity to annoy parents on lower teams to keep them engaged.

I'd argue going smaller roster probably lessens coach headaches and is better for player development. Bubble players get defaulted to the RL roster where they can actually play meaningful minutes instead of collecting splinters.
 
There is one "Slammers FC" team and one "Slammers FC HB Koge" team.

Got it - all clear. I interpreted the discussion above as if the situation was there were multiple Slammers FC RL teams, feeding to a single Slammers FC NL team. As also stated earlier, if it's just a Slammers Koge RL and a Slammers FC RL, those streams shouldn't cross (channelling ghostbusters) as players are pulled up and back down to/from the corresponding NL teams without officially moving the kids across to the other ECNL program.
 
I'd argue going smaller roster probably lessens coach headaches and is better for player development. Bubble players get defaulted to the RL roster where they can actually play meaningful minutes instead of collecting splinters.
That doesn't make sense.

Both ECNL and ECRL rostered players can play in either ECRL or ECNL games. The only limitation is that players can only participate in 1 game per day.

Most likely having 13 rostered on the clubs ECNL team + 24 on the ECRL but on game day 5 are brought up from ECRL to play in ECNL games means the club is doing player pools but not telling the parents about it. This would also make the team seem attractive to talent from other teams so they can recruit.
 
I think they are on the up and up. They have a lot of good talent that were overlooked by other teams. CB from Koge NL, some RL player from Blues, Slammers RL keeper from last year, a blues player from F1 that was offered RL but didn’t make the jump last year and is now on this years OC’s PDP. Top talent that was displaced from Rebels NPL that went to Strikers E64 that helped made them successful, some Liverpool DPL players and a handful kf

Coach Miguel really did his homework over the summer and was seen at every tournament big and small scouring for the next player for this team. I’ve never seen a coach put that much work in to scouting like he did.

I’m not saying they’re going to win the Sonoran, but they’re a completely different team than what was out there last year.

What is more impressive besides the 1-1 tie was that the day before Legends was held scoreless at 0-0 against Slammers where as Pats at least got on the score board. That’s even with one of their main strikers who is still out with a clavicle fracture suffered against the Surf NL match they had when they were leading before she got injured.
Pats also pulled one from City.

Liverpool is an interesting team and doing well in DPL. Hopefully they can stay together and not have talent get picked off by bigger clubs.
 
Pats also pulled one from City.

Liverpool is an interesting team and doing well in DPL. Hopefully they can stay together and not have talent get picked off by bigger clubs.

I don’t see Liverpool lasting by the end of the next 2 years if GA doesn’t happen. RH is turning the reins over after the end of this season. Might be hard not having him to keep that group together when you’ve got NL and GA teams practicing to the fields on your immediate left and right at OCGP and the club hasn’t gotten GA by that time (I’m talking by when the girls are U16).
 
That doesn't make sense.

Both ECNL and ECRL rostered players can play in either ECRL or ECNL games. The only limitation is that players can only participate in 1 game per day.

Most likely having 13 rostered on the clubs ECNL team + 24 on the ECRL but on game day 5 are brought up from ECRL to play in ECNL games means the club is doing player pools but not telling the parents about it. This would also make the team seem attractive to talent from other teams so they can recruit.

Which part doesn't make sense - coach's headaches or player development?

As for it effectively being a player pool, agree.
 
Liverpool and Albion top placed teams in each of there bracket play this weekend will be a good match. I think some of those top DPL teams can compete in RL. But I'm new to all this I might be wrong.
 
Concord Fire, FC Stars, Michigan Hawks, PDA Real Colorado, Slammers and SLSG all have 2 ECNL teams per age group.

Sting and PDA both have 3 ECNL teams per age group.
OMG!! My bad. 3!!!!! My lord I was just thinking SoCal though and I just know the one and it was because they got some deal or something to stay/join. Don’t know the real details.
 
OMG!! My bad. 3!!!!! My lord I was just thinking SoCal though and I just know the one and it was because they got some deal or something to stay/join. Don’t know the real details.
Talked to an old head about this out of bored curiosity and got a lot of intel to share and have y’all fact check. It sounds like that club jumped at the so cal opportunity to form 2 ECNL teams at a time when one so cal flight needed a new team because another dropped. I guess it’s not that uncommon throughout all of the ECNL conferences, but each team/sub club has to be treated like its own separate club for purposes of club awards and player mobility. So if a club has sub clubs with 3 ECNL teams, one player has to remain with one of the three subs but can can move between ECNL and ECRL, and/or between age groups, each game day but players can only play one game a day. Did I get it right?
 
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@Carlsbad7 stop fooling yourself GA is in no way closing the gap and the fact that you play GA is your way of validating that then good for you.

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@Surfer_dad nothing is going on at surf other then they got better when you left the team so the win over Koge must have tasted really bitter.

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@Luis Andres this guy can disappear he is the typical parent who thinks his player is way better then they really are

all 3 of these people should be embarrassed to show there faces anywhere much less voice any opinions they might have
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you must be an ECNL advocate. I can totally tell. I’m still sticking to my gut decision of pulling her out of this league. Why don’t you bring your DD and have her go against mine 1v1 and then we can talk payaso… I got $1000 bucks on it. BTW I don’t post on this thread anymore but you all keep @ mentioning me. So leave me alone and don’t waste my time. If you got something to prove let’s go or bring me your best 2010… We can film it too. I walk my talk.

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To jump back a few pages, it looks like TopHat 2010G had another iffy weekend, losing to a GA team that barely breaks the top 100. A new feature of SR can help put some of this in perspective, and help provide more data about the schedule strength that teams are dealing with. First, here's what TH 2010G looks like now:

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You can see the loss against West Florida, and you can also see that their schedule over the past year is ranked 54th strongest in the country, but still is the 4th strongest schedule of any 2010G team in their state.

Counter that against some of the other top teams like Koge and Surf:

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showing the toughest and 2nd toughest schedule in the country. One interesting data point is then looking at the #1 team, MVLA:

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They are doing that against the 25th strongest schedule in the country - Norcal ECNL appears to be a much easier league than SoCal ECNL, and the ratings and the results bear that out. (MVLA is averaging over 8 goals a game, they haven't been scored on yet over 5 games)
 
you must be an ECNL advocate. I can totally tell. I’m still sticking to my gut decision of pulling her out of this league. Why don’t you bring your DD and have her go against mine 1v1 and then we can talk payaso… I got $1000 bucks on it. BTW I don’t post on this thread anymore but you all keep @ mentioning me. So leave me alone and don’t waste my time. If you got something to prove let’s go or bring me your best 2010… We can film it too. I walk my talk.

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The Official One v One challenge from Luis, I love it :)
 
you must be an ECNL advocate. I can totally tell. I’m still sticking to my gut decision of pulling her out of this league. Why don’t you bring your DD and have her go against mine 1v1 and then we can talk payaso… I got $1000 bucks on it. BTW I don’t post on this thread anymore but you all keep @ mentioning me. So leave me alone and don’t waste my time. If you got something to prove let’s go or bring me your best 2010… We can film it too. I walk my talk.

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Don’t ever leave…. or change
 
Talked to an old head about this out of bored curiosity and got a lot of intel to share and have y’all fact check. It sounds like that club jumped at the so cal opportunity to form 2 ECNL teams programs at a time when one so cal flight needed a new team because another dropped. I guess it’s not that uncommon throughout all of the ECNL conferences, but each team/sub club program has to be treated like its own separate club for purposes of club awards and player mobility. So if a club has sub clubs with 3 ECNL teams programs, one player has to remain with one of the three subs programs but can can move between ECNL and ECRL, and/or between age groups, each game day but players can only play one game a day. Did I get it right?

Fixed the terminology, but, yeah, that's the gist. The additonal caveats are that if a player moves between programs, it's a one way trip and they can only move two per age group per year between programs.
 
I like the 1 v 1 challenge the best Luis. I challenged a few dads on here in 2018 to the U14 YNT v The Rest of Best of Socal that was left off. Basically, U14 YNT v Socal Players that were tricked, snubbed or Dad didn't play, pay for play the right way. Never piss off a Doc or coach with access and influences is the Crush recommendation of the day.

hmm that would be interesting to witness. I'm sure there were many favors to get some players on this latest list. Politics always gets in the way disturbing the true essence of being admitted on real talent and merit. So I know that Cal South controls ODP and I hear that ECNL controls PDP? Am I right? Seems like ECNL is winning the dog race on the girls side and they control & influence many things today. This is all new for me as I learn to navigate the landscape. My opinion still remains the same regarding ECNL and developement of women's soccer in the near future. The European girls model will be superior & ahead of ECNL in terms of developing the right soccer players that can play with their brain first and use their technical and athletic toolset to gain an edge over others. First Clubs must change and then ECNL will be better for development purposes. But it all starts with the clubs if we want to develop the right soccer players that will make the USA competitive vs European teams.
 
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