Fortheloveofsoccer
BRONZE
2-1 Surf wins. HB was gifted a very bizarre PK
How’s the 2023-24 season going?
- Thread starter CharlieMurfee
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Surf looking dominant again. Koge did not look as good as before.
I didn’t have sporting losing 0-2 to heat on my bingo card.. I’d ask what happened but no need for excuses. I’ll just give heat their props for winning
Heat played very well at Blues Cup
Truewords100
BRONZE
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@Carlsbad7 stop fooling yourself GA is in no way closing the gap and the fact that you play GA is your way of validating that then good for you.
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@Surfer_dad nothing is going on at surf other then they got better when you left the team so the win over Koge must have tasted really bitter.
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@Luis Andres this guy can disappear he is the typical parent who thinks his player is way better then they really are
all 3 of these people should be embarrassed to show there faces anywhere much less voice any opinions they might have
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@Carlsbad7 stop fooling yourself GA is in no way closing the gap and the fact that you play GA is your way of validating that then good for you.
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@Surfer_dad nothing is going on at surf other then they got better when you left the team so the win over Koge must have tasted really bitter.
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@Luis Andres this guy can disappear he is the typical parent who thinks his player is way better then they really are
all 3 of these people should be embarrassed to show there faces anywhere much less voice any opinions they might have
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RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
A bit of an upset, but not completely out of the blue - the teams appear to be quite close.
This is in the context to half the starting line up being out for Beach and this guy coming in here with liquid courage after beating a wounded opponent saying “excuses”. I don’t even have a kid at Beach but it doesn’t take a genius to understand how team sports work and how a team will perform when half your starting line up is out.
Not sure how they do it at sporting but most NL clubs don’t slide kids back and forth at will between the NL and RL teams. There’s a lot to factor in. That may involve parent / kid preference, giving your bench opportunity and a plethora of other reasons we can consider.
It’s like Slammers NL playing with 13. They’ve got 2 RL teams an E64 and 2 NPL teams they can draw from but they aren’t because of their own reasons. Eagles NL also keeps a small roster too despite having 18 on the RL roster and talent on non RL teams that could slide up.
Just kick it down a notch and be happy you won a game you were supposed to win.
If a club runs more than one ECNL program, they can't draw players from outside the program a particular team is registered in.
Can you clarify?
To my understanding from the ECNL bylaws, you can add a player to an NL roster so long as the roster does not exceed a total of 30 players in the season. You can absolutely bring an RL player from your own program up to the NL and, if the DOC signs off on it, you can absolutely leave one NL program for another NL program within the same season. These are in the ECNL rules on their website.
I know of 1 player in particular who played for 1 NL team, went to a GA team and then played for another NL team all in the same season (actually within 2 months).
And for within the program of teams with 2 NL teams, I know of handful of RL players were asked if they wanted to move up to NL within slammers last season but declined.
So I don’t understand what you’re trying to imply?
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
It sounds like he's saying that in cases where a large club has 2 NL teams and 2 RL teams, they are linked - and you can't mix and match from either RL to either NL team. So a player on Koge RL can only club-pass to Koge NL, not Slammers NL. But is there a situation out there with a single club (that isn't just affiliated or partnered with) that has 2 NL teams?
Or maybe he's saying that the E64 and NPL players are off-limits to club-passes if the club is running multiple ECNL or ECNL-R programs. I dunno.
Or maybe he's saying that the E64 and NPL players are off-limits to club-passes if the club is running multiple ECNL or ECNL-R programs. I dunno.
Ya that’s what I’m trying to figure out as well. But even in the case where you have a koge player and a slammers player, I would expect that those two could move rosters (not player pass) so long as those DOCs approve it
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
Yes - they could always move rosters if the DOCs approve it, but it doesn't just become OK because they say so, the player needs to get a new player card assigning them to the new club/team. And then they need to get another new player card if they want to switch back. Whether it's intentional or unintentional, the player card requirements make it cumbersome to switch between clubs within season. Club passes and/or guesting from a completely different organization with no player card conflict are both always going to be easier to manage. (Which is why I didn't understand the limitation or problem with E64/NPL)
Agree with everything said, but my understanding going from RL to NL isn’t hard to do within the same DBA (ie Koge to koge and slammers to slammers). And to the point, if push came to shove and they wanted bring a koge RL to a slammers NL and move rosters, it can still happen, although there’s administrative work to be done (time and money involved), but to say they “can’t” I don’t understand. It may not be practical but it’s possible.
I know a Legends player who plays with 09 RL, 10NL and 10RL and that may change on any given match day (on a day to day basis).
Last season slammers RL played against many NL players who came down to help out that day too.
CharlieMurfee
SILVER ELITE
Is it because they don’t have #15 from MVLA? I heard she plays for the 09s but they lost too.. crazy start to the season
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
Understood and agreed. I would have thought a club pass would allow all of this to happen pretty commonly and easily.
I’m pretty sure there is only one club that has 2 and it has nothing to do with club size.
Concord Fire, FC Stars, Michigan Hawks, PDA Real Colorado, Slammers and SLSG all have 2 ECNL teams per age group.
Sting and PDA both have 3 ECNL teams per age group.
Simply pointing out that players can't move seemlessly between teams in two separate programs operated by the same club.
Any player registered on any team within a program can play on any age appropriate team within that same program, as long as they only play on one team per day.
Section 2.2.3 of the ECNL Competition Rules touches on multiple program movement, sections 3.14.3 and 3.14.3.1 make it clear that movement between programs is limited.
RandomSoccerFan
GOLD
This past weekend, Surf beat Koge in 06/05G, 2007G, 2008G, 2009G, and 2010G. The two clubs tied in 2011G. It's a pretty convincing statement about intentions this season.