Ps it’s truly awesome that over the last couple weeks there have been reviews and studies questioning the impact of lockdowns, masks have come under question given the constantly shifting cdc guidelines, saint faucis reputation has been tarnished, the lab leak theory is ascendant, even the main stream media is questioning the censorship pressures on science by certain experts and the tech companies, the Cw is embracing that kids were truly short changed over the pandemic, government restrictions around the world even in bastions such as Taiwan have failed....and yet you still hold true to your faith. I am in awe.
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Your original argument said nothing about cases. You merely said we would all end up “at the same place”.
I tend to think of “outside the casket“ and “inside the casket“ as two very different places. I very much prefer to remain outside the casket.
If you meant that cases would be the same but deaths would be vastly different, then you ought to have been more careful in your choice of words.
the discussion has centered these many months because that’s how you all had framed it. I almost a year ago made the argument that overtime like most viruses this would be better adapted to spread and less towards death plus treatment would improve. If you are finally moving towards deaths are all that matter....hallelujah...progress.
ps under that standard in the us the emergency ended last weekend. Guess we are finally done here.
Nice dance.the discussion has centered these many months because that’s how you all had framed it. I almost a year ago made the argument that overtime like most viruses this would be better adapted to spread and less towards death plus treatment would improve. If you are finally moving towards deaths are all that matter....hallelujah...progress.
ps under that standard in the us the emergency ended last weekend. Guess we are finally done here.
Garbage logic. You still wrote A and are pretending you meant B.
But nice dance.
Your original point, that everyone will end up in the same place, is trashed of course. First by vaccines, second by treatments, and third by the basic 1-1/R computation for total number of cases. Once it’s all done, your “in the same place” claim has been reduced to living in some counterfactual world where we have no vaccines, do not develop teatments, and never adjust our social behavior.
But really nice dance.
Now whoS rewriting???
I excluded vaccines. I grant you treatments (but only by you finally conceding our argument of a year ago). And your belief that masks and restrictions are possible for years is more of your religion.It’s actually peer reviewed research that backs up masks, not religion. And none of what I mentioned was restrictions. It was all the kind of behavioral adjustments that societies make over time. Just like we all learned to wear seat belts and wash our hands with soap.Now whoS rewriting???
But keep dancing. What color are the sunsets on your fantasy world with no vaccines, no treatments, and no changes to societal norms?
Again you miss the point. In the end the virus ends up in roughly the same place everywhere irrespective of controls. The only thing that makes a difference in the end is vaccines and to a lesser extent the treatments. So in the end the biggest thing that made a difference was having a leader like trump, Bibi, Johnson and maybe (if the Russians were actually inclined to believe him) Putin that was actually successful in rolling out the vaccine
but keep praying. You yourself have argued Europewas foolish in not keeping its social adjustments. Nowyou say they are possible in perpetuity.
What part of wearing a mask is untenable?
It goes in your pocket, you wear it near other people, you toss it in the laundry at the end of the day, and you buy a new one as they wear out. Is there some part of that routine which is super difficult for you?
Or, if you like disposable, you buy a new box every month, and each mask goes in the trash in the evening.
What part of this routine do you find so difficult that makes you believe it cannot be done? Most of us have been doing it for over a year now.
Says the introvert to the extrovert.. what’s inconvenient about masks and concealing your facial expressions during interpersonal interactions. I don’t know... human history and evolution? In what world do you live in where that is not ‘inconvenient’ or leads to lack of understanding in social communication? Online text?!
We are not in a life treating pandemic now that we have access to vaccines (at least locally). Public health guidance from 2020 is no longer relevant in our society for the general populace.
I’d like to think you are responding to the anti-mask crowd during the life threatening pandemic, but your recent comments seem to support the academic institution’s past position even in the current context which is laughable.
Masks may or may not have been of use in the past, inconvenient/efficacious or not, but now it’s just a joke for the vaccinated... including yourself.
Science had it wrong.. I should have been masking for measles in perpetuity in addition to getting the MMR vaccine and living my life as usual, ‘cause it’s not that inconvenient’ and may add a layer of protection to myself and others. Heck, if we did that as a society there may not have been a measles outbreak at DisneyLand from unvaccinated attendees.
R>1 has for Covid-19 been achieved due to vaccines in the US. Next goalpost please?!
The laundry part of this is the funniest thing
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And that bubble can go either way.
The whole discussion was for a counterfactual world without vaccines.
The question for this world is how to raise the vaccination rate.
I'm curious to hear your plan? How to raise the Vax rate? I just saw a documentary about a guy like you who thought he was right and that everyone should get the Vax. Will guess what dummy? Dude is now dead and he had a 99.97 chance to live before he took the shots. Honest Q @dad4 and Ebola. Do you believe in God?
Bro its a struggle for me just to find my phone, wallet keys in the morning before I leave for work.
I thought this was an interesting article. Wasn't Japan one of the early "role models" for Covid response.
They better not cancel the Olympics. And NBC better not show everything on delay, I'm prepared to stay up all night to watch the events live.
As Tokyo Olympics near, why has Japan been so slow to vaccinate its citizens?
With the Tokyo Olympics set to start July 23, roughly 8.7% of Japan's 126 million residents had received at least one vaccine shot as of Thursday.
www.usatoday.com
They better not cancel the Olympics. And NBC better not show everything on delay, I'm prepared to stay up all night to watch the events live.
Maybe so but I don't recall any on the right calling for "safe spaces". Maybe you can refresh my memory.
Breaking News: Skinny Nicky Flips
Skinny Nicky ((yes that Nicky)) has flipped on his pals in Philly. Oh boy, this is getting interesting. @Ebola & Dad, watch this clip brothers. Game on dudes, just like I said. Nowhere to run and no place to hide. Engine has stopped and no more gasoline. I heard a rumor that Nick had a face to face like Saul did and he capitulated quickly.
Skinny Nicky ((yes that Nicky)) has flipped on his pals in Philly. Oh boy, this is getting interesting. @Ebola & Dad, watch this clip brothers. Game on dudes, just like I said. Nowhere to run and no place to hide. Engine has stopped and no more gasoline. I heard a rumor that Nick had a face to face like Saul did and he capitulated quickly.
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You must be kidding, right? The whole gig behind trump conservatism is intolerance and cleansing of any “others”.