Ask him about percentages.
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Ask him about percentages.
Just to be clear, I had no clue what was happening in March. My only advice at that time was don't panic, don't overreact.
Bruddah IZ
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Cherry Pickers Delight.
Bruddah IZ
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What about them Rate-spola?
All I knew was what I read on my laptop. I could see the public reactions before March - sudden shortage of facemasks (any kind or price) followed by TP and PT. Then, (I'm sure there is a good reason, I just don't know it), no redwood lumber.
I have tried to stay out of this debate except when someone is promoting falsehoods or scientific impossibilities.
Well said...the walls are beginning to crumble around Team Panic.
Bruddah IZ
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Try harder
No divisions on that one. Both sides agree that higher vaccination rates make it possible to open more things.
The remaining question is how quickly, and in what order.
My preference was "slowly, kids first". The country chose "quickly, adults first.".
It's why the strip clubs were open before the playgrounds. Not sure who wants to take credit for that decision.
That was a judge's decision, not a policy decision re: strip clubs. (Technically they won on a freedom of expression claim, which apparently only applied to dancing naked, and not dancing clothed)
I'm sure if the playground coalition had enough money to hire counsel they would have prevailed. I think every group that brought an action against the state or a county won their case, including Let Them Play. Of course they brought most of the cases in San Diego and not the Bay Area.
Bruddah IZ
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None of the above would be an issue if the experts didn't ignore the well established Science. Instead they employed the wrong test (PCR) to identify real time infections. Fauci should go to jail for his fraud.
Hüsker Dü
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Joel Osteen
Hüsker Dü
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Don’t hold your breath
Desert Hound
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Masks Didn't Slow COVID Spread: New Study
townhall.com
Melbourne is entering now it’s 3rd lockdown due to 25 cases. The lockdowns in australia are very severe and include stupid stuff like outdoor mask mandates and shutting down schools and being able to leAve your house only for certain limited reasons. The second lockdown at over 100 days was one of the longest in the world.
Hüsker Dü
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My brother in law says seat belts, helmets when riding a bike, stop signs and speed limits are all unnecessary as well. FREEDUMB!Masks Didn't Slow COVID Spread: New Study
Bruddah IZ
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He said you're a swallower.
Bruddah IZ
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That's on the NPI list. Every man for himself.
Dad4 made a comment a number of pages back to the effect that "Courts are how we hold people accountable". This mentality is why California is such a litigious state. I personally believe courts are the venue of last resort for holding people accountable. Nevertheless, Newsom has been held accountable for his unlawful Covid restrictions time and time again. Here is the latest:
www.newsweek.com
This wasn't just a loss for Newsom, when you have to pay the other sides attorneys' fees, that's an ass kicking. (and this considering churches were a known source of spread in some cases.) Just add to it the court overruled restrictions on restaurants, strip clubs, youth sports etc.
Whether Dad4's proposed restrictions for Covid, which as best I can tell sounds like Newsom restrictions on steroids, would work, or not, is a moot point since many of Newsom's restrictions were deemed unlawful.
(On a macro level an appellate court deemed Newsom had power under the Emergency Act to amend state law or policy, but on a case-by-case basis those restrictions that were challenged were nearly all determined to be unlawful by the Court.)
Pasadena Church Prevails in Lawsuit Against Newsom Over Restrictions
A California District Court entered an order this week approving Liberty Counsel's settlement of a lawsuit on behalf of Pasadena's Harvest Rock Church and Harvest International Ministry against California Governor Gavin Newsom and his COVID-19 restrictions.
www.newsweek.com
This wasn't just a loss for Newsom, when you have to pay the other sides attorneys' fees, that's an ass kicking. (and this considering churches were a known source of spread in some cases.) Just add to it the court overruled restrictions on restaurants, strip clubs, youth sports etc.
Whether Dad4's proposed restrictions for Covid, which as best I can tell sounds like Newsom restrictions on steroids, would work, or not, is a moot point since many of Newsom's restrictions were deemed unlawful.
(On a macro level an appellate court deemed Newsom had power under the Emergency Act to amend state law or policy, but on a case-by-case basis those restrictions that were challenged were nearly all determined to be unlawful by the Court.)
I suspect that if he ever gets t-boned on his bike he'll likely change his mind. (Not encouraging this to happen, just an observation).
The more severe restrictions are a way to reduce the duration of the restrictions.
The idea is to reduce R well below 1. If R = 0.9, you will eventually get to zero, but it might take a long time. If you can get to R = 0.7, it takes about 1/3 the time.
They aren’t trying for sustained R<1. Think of it as R = 0.5 on a temporary basis. That requires much stricter measures than basic containment, and is therefore not a very good way to measure the difficulty of reaching R<1.
-Buzz