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They put hubris in the water up here?Not to stereotype, but its uncanny how that seems to work. It must be something in the water.
They put hubris in the water up here?Not to stereotype, but its uncanny how that seems to work. It must be something in the water.
Your comparison only works because LA had a different disease than FL.Again we will never agree because your only using one standard and that's Covid, I happen to believe that other health, economic, social and educational standards are relevant. Florida crushed California hands down.
Please. FL didn't get a D.Your comparison only works because LA had a different disease than FL.
If you restrict your comparison to places with the same disease, your argument goes nowhere. The rest of CA had just over half as many deaths per capita as FL.
So, if you want to say FL crushed greater LA, you are correct. Just remember that FL was taking the easy test and LA got the hard test. Not too surprising that FL got a D and LA got an F.
If you follow the argument, it’s not really about norcal.They put hubris in the water up here?
If you follow the argument, it’s not really about norcal.
I just got tired of people comparing FL to CA, but ignoring the variant.
So I decided to pose a question to which the only honest answers are “variant” and “inadequate housing.”
Which brings us back to,
What went wrong in LA? Why are their numbers so much worse than almost anyone else at their latitude?
It’s not Newsom, because the rest of CA did ok.
It’s not latitude, because you did worse than the rest of your latitude.
What did LA do that was so bad?
Seems like the virus only endangers California a now…Cal osha seems set to rule masks into 2022 unless everyone in the work space (tbd) is vaccinated. 2 futures possible: offices to remain remote in California into 2022, everyone ignores it and companies have to employ mask police.
Yes. I mentioned this before, but as you all know I don't fear repeating myself. There is going to be a population of students who thrive when they can go at their own pace and don't miss the social aspect of school as well as families that appreciate the flexibility. If I had to guess, the COVID experience will act to skim a bit of the academic cream off the top of public schools.Fortunately, there are some very good online resources and my high school daughter was able to educate herself.
The 2 are interrelatedAnd watch the idiot school districts/unions take that OSHA reg and run with it to make more bad rules for kids.
I’ll take relative distance to the Mexico border for 500 Alex!When you look at CA/FL, remember to look at socal and norcal separately.
Most of the deaths in CA were in LA, OC, Riv, and San Bernadino. For those four counties, you have 38,800 deaths out of 18 million residents. 2150 deaths per million. That is worse than Florida, and close to South Dakota.
For the entire rest of the state, you have 24,500 deaths out of a population of 22 million. 1,100 deaths per million. Considerably better than Florida, and similar to Colorado.
The question then becomes not “why did CA policies fail?”, but “what went wrong in socal?”.
Except for the FACT that last summer lockdowners were using myocarditis as a reason for our kids NOT to return to outdoor sports because of the risk…..again, selective use of science.In the face of growing concerns about myocarditis, last week the CDC posted a statement saying it “continues to recommend COVID-19 vaccination for everyone 12 years of age and older. The known and potential benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the known and potential risks, including the possible risk of myocarditis or pericarditis.”
Also: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
Nope. San Diego is closer, and they have a far lower death rate.I’ll take relative distance to the Mexico border for 500 Alex!
It's funny. You are down to the variant was confined to La County.
And if you accept that Newsom may have been a variable, you may as well be open to putting it on the LA Board of Supervisors for their really long lockdowns (we know lockdown fatigue is a thing) and their shutting of outdoor dining.
So I’m likely down $500…..but you're right, Texas is and has kicked CA’s ass throughout this pandemic and their kids went to school and economy is booming.Nope. San Diego is closer, and they have a far lower death rate.
Besides, Texas is also kicking your ass. They’re close to Mexico, too.
Next try.
(If we didn't repeat ourselves, we'd have nothing to say.) California students have been particularly disadvantaged as compared to students from other states. One of many issues is in regards to college admissions for this year's Seniors.Yes. I mentioned this before, but as you all know I don't fear repeating myself. There is going to be a population of students who thrive when they can go at their own pace and don't miss the social aspect of school as well as families that appreciate the flexibility. If I had to guess, the COVID experience will act to skim a bit of the academic cream off the top of public schools.
Aren't you in Santa Clara County? While a per capital death rate shouldn't ever be considered a good thing, SD County rate is nearly identical to Santa Clara's. We at least did better than LA.Nope. San Diego is closer, and they have a far lower death rate.
Besides, Texas is also kicking your ass. They’re close to Mexico, too.
Next try.
Why was LA the only place with lockdown fatigue? We closed dining, too.
It may be that there was a cultural difference in when different people gave in to lockdown fatigue. But the lockdown itself was largely the same.
Besides, that sounds dangerously close to norcal smugness. “ Those weak souls in LA crumbled in fatigue, while we northerners endured with grace and dignity. If only those Dodgers fans were as mentally strong as the stalwart residents of Oakland.”.
Are you sure that’s the argument you want?
That’s just the thing. If you grew up as a Chargers and Padres fan, then you know something about enduring hardship and were prepared for the rigors of quarantine. Same thing for Raiders and As fans.Aren't you in Santa Clara County? While a per capital death rate shouldn't ever be considered a good thing, SD County rate is nearly identical to Santa Clara's. We at least did better than LA.
"We have stolen nearly two years of the most energetic and productive time in our children’s lives for a virus that 99% of people will survive and ostensibly 100% of children who contract it will survive. This virus has been no threat to youth (yes, I understand there are exceptions to every rule but in a country of 330 million, 100 to 200 deaths -while certainly heart wrenching- is statistically zero)."![]()
What Our Government Has Done to Our Children This Past Year Is Unforgivable
In March of 2020 my son was a senior in high school. He had worked his way through this school’redstate.com
You finally may be on to something. They can buy championships, but they couldn't buy their way out of the pandemic.That’s just the thing. If you grew up as a Chargers and Padres fan, then you know something about enduring hardship and were prepared for the rigors of quarantine. Same thing for Raiders and As fans.
Those weak-willed Lakers and Dodgers fans never stood a chance. They crumbled under pressure and gave in to covid fatigue.
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