I didn't have any trouble making appointments. In fact, my MDs were calling me up to remind me that it was time for my next appointment. The only "panic" I witnessed at the medical centers was a mask and fever screening at the door.
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I didn't have any trouble making appointments. In fact, my MDs were calling me up to remind me that it was time for my next appointment. The only "panic" I witnessed at the medical centers was a mask and fever screening at the door.
Count yourself lucky.
o.k. not to doubt your personal experience, but the window we are talking about here is March-May. I'm frankly surprised your doctors offices were open as many of them in La Co were just plain shut until they could get telehealth up and running. But it raises an interesting possibility: doctors for older people were more open than> other specialists for adults > pediatricians. If true, that would be crazy ass backwards in terms of public health risk.
Still, I little hard to get through the temp screening when you are actually running a temp.
He'd be talking to himself, espola and Husker. Not sure even dad wants to do that.
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"MIT SCHOLARS REVIEW ANTI-MASK DISCUSSIONS AND CONCLUDE: “As science and technology studies (STS) scholars have shown, data is not a neutral substrate that can be used for good or for ill [14, 46, 84]. Indeed, anti-maskers often reveal themselves to be more sophisticated in their understanding of how scientific knowledge is socially constructed than their ideological adversaries, who espouse naive realism about the ‘objective’ truth of public health data.”
Plus: “Most fundamentally, the groups we studied believe that science is a process, and not an institution.”
Also: “As Tufekci demonstrates (and our data corroborates), the CDC’s initial public messaging that masks were ineffective—followed by a quick public reversal— seriously hindered the organization’s ability to effectively communicate as the pandemic progressed. As we have seen, people are not simply passive consumers of media: anti-mask users in particular were predisposed to digging through the scientific literature and highlighting the uncertainty in academic publications that media or- ganizations elide. When these uncertainties did not surface within public-facing versions of these studies, people began to assume that there was a broader cover-up [99].”
Plus: “Most fundamentally, the groups we studied believe that science is a process, and not an institution.”
Also: “As Tufekci demonstrates (and our data corroborates), the CDC’s initial public messaging that masks were ineffective—followed by a quick public reversal— seriously hindered the organization’s ability to effectively communicate as the pandemic progressed. As we have seen, people are not simply passive consumers of media: anti-mask users in particular were predisposed to digging through the scientific literature and highlighting the uncertainty in academic publications that media or- ganizations elide. When these uncertainties did not surface within public-facing versions of these studies, people began to assume that there was a broader cover-up [99].”
Bruddah IZ
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The pandemic proved that schools weren't doing a good job of educating the masses about how to think as opposed to the what to think curriculum that got us to the mindless compliance that we now see.
Desert Hound
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Absolutely. Kids got screwed.
Wait until the real news comes out Hound
We see this dynamic here when dad4 always asks if you are in favor of an indoor mask mandate/vaccine why do you raise question re masks working/vaccines?
In the March to May time frame I had two doctor visits (GP and neurologist) and one blood drawing at the lab a week before the GP. The first time there was a car maze in the parking lot screening arrivals to filter us to the appropriate locations; the other times just a quick health check at the door. My wife had similar experiences at a different location of the same hospital chain.
And if we are comparing "credentials" -- within my extended family, I can count a GP, an anesthesiologist, a cancer surgeon, an optometrist, and a speech therapist. There were others since deceased -- GPs in New Jersey and California.
Desert Hound
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See it all the time between he and I.
He likes to point out the study or the CDC says wear a mask. I read the literature and see that they say they don't know if they work.
He'd be talking to himself, espola and Husker. Not sure even dad wants to do that.
He may be talking in my direction, but I'm not listening. The only time I take notice is when someone else quotes him.
Bruddah IZ
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My tackle box usually contains a lure that will hook you.
After posting that, out of curiosity I did a quick review of his recent posts. He denies that an mRNA medication can be a vaccine, he doesn't know how to spell "viruses" in spite of it being in the news every day for the last year-plus, and apparently, he is very proud of a quartet of pictures he drew up (or, more likely, copied without attribution).
I forgot the nurse/phlebotomist who gave a free cholesterol check the Monday after Thanksgiving.
Chief of medicine for a hospital, chief medical officer for a fortune 500 company, head of radiology, a hospital admin, an insurance company exec, 2 nurse practioners, chief of cardiac surgery, private practice allergist/immunologist & a gastroenterologist, pediatrician, pediatrician's assistant, anesthesiologist, a surgical resident, some of them retired.
We 3 siblings are the shame of our family for being the only ones to go into law (and all having attended the same law school). It causes no end to distress in the family that neither one of the grandkids shows an inclination for STEM, through granddad is happy at least one of them took up soccer.
That's because you ignore all the studies which disagree with you.
The MIT researchers you cite were quite clear that masks "eliminate" the respiratory cone pathway for aerosol transmission. Their word, not mine.
But somehow you never talk about that part of their research.....
I know its a defense mechanism for you, but please stop speculating and/or just making shit up. This one is right up there with Utah has less Covid because they consume less alcohol. At least, Team Virus's speculation is typically within the realm of reasonableness and usually is backed up with some evidence.
"Delayed care has been widely reported during the COVID-19 pandemic, both for perceived serious medical issues and all types of medical care generally. Between March and August, our “Impact of Coronavirus on U.S. Households Survey” from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and National Public Radio found that 1 in 5 adults (20%) in the US reported their household members were unable to get or delayed getting medical care for serious problems. Among those reporting delayed care, more than half (57%) said they experienced negative health consequences as a result."
Delayed Care with Harmful Health Consequences—Reported Experiences from National Surveys During Coronavirus Disease 2019
The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has created unprecedented challenges to providing medical care for patients with conditions other than COVID-19 in the US.1 While lack of health insurance and other cost-associated barriers have long been considered driving forces preventing...
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If these findings are even remotely correct, more adults had delayed care for serious health conditions (20%) than adults that had Covid infections (10% in SD) and around the same amount had negative health consequences due to delayed care as had been infected. Do you need any more evidence that the cure was worse than the disease? (There's plenty of other evidence but this alone should suffice).
From the grammar police-
Between him and me.
You were trying to sound highbrow and simply messed up the parts of speech.
You'll sound better if you don't put on airs.