I just said I read the bill. Are you comprehension challenged and like to put words in people's mouths now, too?
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When so many of your posts are inherently in conflict with themselves, "I would do this!" "I never said that!" "I would do this!" "I never said that!", it's hard to believe much of the rest. So read the bill.
I don't fear any of this. It's just odd behavior. I couldn't care less what they do in their own homes and I just posted that here. Go Lady Gaga yourself and gay it up all you want, but you have ZERO business asking to do story time in an elementary school. None. And yes, Milton and Flip were hilarious in those characters. As was Damon Wayans. But here's where we are now:
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I read the bill, dipshit. What part of that eludes you? All you do is spew drivel. Nobody's heard you make a point yet.
So you think it's appropriate for a drag queen to do story time to Kindergartners? Why would that be?
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No need, you're making it for me.
People being offended by comedy is a whole other issue. I think if we all took each others words or schtick a lot less seriously, we'd all be better off.I don't fear any of this. It's just odd behavior. I couldn't care less what they do in their own homes and I just posted that here. Go Lady Gaga yourself and gay it up all you want, but you have ZERO business asking to do story time in an elementary school. None. And yes, Milton and Flip were hilarious in those characters. As was Damon Wayans. But here's where we are now:
Will Ferrell: I Wouldn't Do The Janet Reno 'SNL' Bit 'Now'
Will Ferrell indicating he has regrets over his role as Janet Reno on 'Saturday Night Live' is bad news for comedy.
Like I said, as long as it's age appropriate, I don't have a problem with it. It's nothing I'd promote, or necessarily discourage. Nor do I think its necessary. To me it's much to do about nothing. I don't find drag as a form of entertainment inherently sexual (their acts, like anything entertainment wise can be sexual), or consider drag queens as groomers as some have suggested.
There is a lot of odd behavior in life. As long as your not infringing on other people's rights, or being inappropriate with children, let your "Freak Flag Fly". I don't think if you're different, your oddness should be restricted to the confines of your house.
I think there are two different drag concepts here. One is the straight men (like the Ronald Reagan soldiers in the coconut bras, the Milton or Damon drag, Eddie Murphy and Robbin Williams) and the other is gay men (which tends to be a bit more risque). The purpose of the former is comedy, but I think the pivotal moment this was the John Goodman Linda Tripp thing which was widely regarded as being mean, esp. in Republican circles. After that you mostly only see it among African American comedians (like Madea or Eddie Murphy) and even that has gradually faded out. The other is the gay men drag which is considered much more high art but also more risque as time has gone on. But again, that bears comparison to the minstrel shows which were also solid artistic performances (not intended as exclusively comedy) but which were derided for being caricatures of African Americans.
More fence speak from watty.
Yes, you made that clear from the beginning without having to spell it out. Two types: gay drag and straight drag. Gay drag, sexual. Straight drag, comedy. More putting people into boxes.
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You didn’t say you’d read the bill, you said “I researched it from multiple sources and know what the bill says”, but if you have actually read the bill and still think it mandates tampons for boys, then I don’t I’m the one that’s “comprehension challenged.”
You have to categorize to analyze. The function of each is different. The first is comedy. The second is considered higher art by proponents and is not necessarily to get a laugh ("The Great Starina").
There's a picture of JD Vance doing the former in his youth. I'm not sure he'd be happy if you implied he was doing the same thing as Ru Paul and/or that it was sexual.
Is that a post-Modernist belief? Sounds like a euphemism for "stereotyping" to me. I couldn't give a shit what JD Vance thinks, and I'm not going to use him as a gauge on how I should judge this issue.
Sort of like my pal Mike. He's a straight cross dresser, out of the closet 100% and loves to be with women only but loves the attention he gets for being deceitful to the men who hit on him. With his long brunet wig, he looks very attractive. He's never been with a man. Straight as a pistol he is. I know Mike very well and he's telling the truth. The question watty is how are we to tell the difference of a Gay Drag Queen and a Straight Drag Queen that is for comedy purpose only?
No it's basic analysis for comparing two pieces of performance. Classical music v. jazz music. Rock v. country. Cubist v. impressionist. Gitano flamenco dance v. classical flamenco dance. In this case, there are two different purposes, or telos, of the art. It's more Aristotilean than post modern, but then Aristotle was one of the founders of modern science and the method he expounded was the categorization of items so they could be studied and argued about. You can't have that discussion without categorizing.
Now you can argue that "no those are stereotypes" and therefore the categories are not valid. That's a perfectly valid argument, but then it's incumbent on you to demonstrate by example and evidence how those categorizations are not valid.
Here's a hint...the comedy ones aren't doing drag time story hour....there's no point....you can't do your character and you can't get the laughs if you are reading a story.....the ones doing it are seeking to share what they consider high art with the kids, and thereby get them to appreciate it. The objection is no, that's not appropriate, because that particular piece of art has a sexual component to it which is not appropriate around kids, anymore than stripper time story hour would be, or for that matter taking a young boy to Hooters.
It's not just story hour either. Objections have come from people to parents bringing their kids to drag shows and stripper shows that are toned down for kids (no nudity, no simulated sex) but still have a sexual component (like pole dancing) to them. The defense of them is "it's art".
My take is simple: Story time with the kids at the public school should only be by teachers, Liberian or a vetted parent. I would be more open to story time with a fire fighter, police officer or a Veteran then a Drag Queen. This is insane were even talking about this.