5 biological men roster wins Australian women's soccer league title & also undefeated this season

[dad4]

The international was a select team going to an academy trial......

They used to say the same thing to African America people (why not just go to another team or school or neighborhood where you'll be accepted). Why does my neighborhood property values have to take the hit? Again, if that wasn't o.k. then, then this wouldn't be an answer now. Then you'd have the problem with the teams they play against. You'd have to crack down on it, which means reeducating folks like Slobi and his kids. You either find a separate place for them to play (and go to the bathroom) or you use the hammer to eliminate the Slobis of the world (and throw his kids off the team or out of the school)....those are your choices. And from the GK forum stories BTW, team bullying doesn't exactly seem to be a rare occurence....frequently pops up over there.

The hammer already exists. Try using that term on the pitch in NorCal. We’ve got no problem at all showing a red card and watching the dad walk his kid to the car.

At that point, the dad has two choices. He can teach his kid not to pick fights, or he can find another league.

It works, and it's better than your solution. You suspect that some boys are going to mistreat someone. Instead of dealing with the misbehavior if and when it happens or finding a better behaved group of boys, you choose to stomp all over the rights of a completely unrelated group of girls.

 

[RandomSoccerFan]

The hammer already exists. Try using that term on the pitch in NorCal. We’ve got no problem at all showing a red card and watching the dad walk his kid to the car.

At that point, the dad has two choices. He can teach his kid not to pick fights, or he can find another league.

It works, and it's better than your solution. You suspect that some boys are going to mistreat someone. Instead of dealing with the misbehavior if and when it happens or finding a better behaved group of boys, you choose to stomp all over the rights of a completely unrelated group of girls.

Unfortunately, my experience in NorCal is very different from yours. Those words are used on the pitch *all the time*. Kids either have a thick skin and deal with it, or they aren't going to have a particularly good experience. Yes - when a ref is close enough to hear it, and if they are sure of what was happening, they might throw a yellow or even a red. But it's happened once over the past few years that I can remember - as opposed to the kids having to deal with it multiple times per season.

 

[Grace T.]

The hammer already exists. Try using that term on the pitch in NorCal. We’ve got no problem at all showing a red card and watching the dad walk his kid to the car.

At that point, the dad has two choices. He can teach his kid not to pick fights, or he can find another league.

It works, and it's better than your solution. You suspect that some boys are going to mistreat someone. Instead of dealing with the misbehavior if and when it happens or finding a better behaved group of boys, you choose to stomp all over the rights of a completely unrelated group of girls.

Sf must be a magical place because I’ve seen it happen against kids of color in the val and la at lease a dozen times. In no case did the ref do anything (beyond in a handful of cases a verbal warning…reason the ref doesn’t have proof and it isn’t worth the aggravation). Neither did the coaches (one coach challenged our coach to a fist fight for even suggesting their player did that). And I’ve seen plenty of Latino coaches in the barrio let the m and n words float around freely (so white kids looking to play on those higher, even highest, level letter league teams walk away). To make it work you’d have to use the hammer: life time bans and expulsion for both parents and kids, force people like slobi to use pronouns and not dead name.

 

[Grace T.]

Unfortunately, my experience in NorCal is very different from yours. Those words are used on the pitch *all the time*. Kids either have a thick skin and deal with it, or they aren't going to have a particularly good experience. Yes - when a ref is close enough to hear it, and if they are sure of what was happening, they might throw a yellow or even a red. But it's happened once over the past few years that I can remember - as opposed to the kids having to deal with it multiple times per season.

He just wants his preferred solution so is perfectly content to waive it off as not happening.

 

[dad4]

Unfortunately, my experience in NorCal is very different from yours. Those words are used on the pitch *all the time*. Kids either have a thick skin and deal with it, or they aren't going to have a particularly good experience. Yes - when a ref is close enough to hear it, and if they are sure of what was happening, they might throw a yellow or even a red. But it's happened once over the past few years that I can remember - as opposed to the kids having to deal with it multiple times per season

"all the time" is not the same as "multiple times per season".

"all the time" would be multiple times per game, every game. Is that what you're experiencing? Or is it 6 times per season, and always the same 2 clubs?

 

[Slobodan]

You didn’t say you’d read the bill, you said “I researched it from multiple sources and know what the bill says”, but if you have actually read the bill and still think it mandates tampons for boys, then I don’t I’m the one that’s “comprehension challenged.”

Well what do you think "research" means? I just googled titles? It is "all inclusive"... including putting them in the boy's bathroom for trannies that go from female to male. Why? Because they're still females and need tampons. Aren't we supposed to call FTM trannies "boys"?

Pretty fucking simple... even if you don't understand basic physiology. Where else are they needed besides females? If you need a tampon BECAUSE YOU'RE A FEMALE, why are you in the boy's bathroom or locker room? You're the same losers that say men can get pregnant.

Per the New York Times:

“Her running mate approved — signed into legislation — tampons in boys’ bathrooms, OK,” Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, said of Ms. Harris on Monday during a live audio stream on X. “Now that’s all I have to hear.”

The law was written by Democratic lawmakers with the intent of including transgender students, and has been celebrated by supporters for urging schools to put the products wherever they may be needed. But with each of Minnesota’s more than 300 school districts responsible for drafting a plan for meeting the requirements of the law, schools have not interpreted it as a mandate to specifically place tampons and pads in restrooms designated only for boys.

 

[Slobodan]

Like I said, as long as it's age appropriate, I don't have a problem with it. It's nothing I'd promote, or necessarily discourage. Nor do I think its necessary. To me it's much to do about nothing. I don't find drag as a form of entertainment inherently sexual (their acts, like anything entertainment wise can be sexual), or consider drag queens as groomers as some have suggested.

There is a lot of odd behavior in life. As long as your not infringing on other people's rights, or being inappropriate with children, let your "Freak Flag Fly". I don't think if you're different, your oddness should be restricted to the confines of your house.

Yep. And when the school sends home a letter saying the groomers want to invite some gay man in drag to read story time to my 5-year old, I check the "FUCK NO" box. I don't imagine most people want freak flags flying in K-12. It's bad enough their moronic flags keep me from seeing the game I paid $50 to watch. It's almost as obnoxious as the fat virgin on a ladder telling me what and when to cheer while his fat, virgin buddy hammers his drum.

 

[RandomSoccerFan]

"all the time" is not the same as "multiple times per season".

"all the time" would be multiple times per game, every game. Is that what you're experiencing? Or is it 6 times per season, and always the same 2 clubs?

Move the bar much? You said come to NorCal, and it doesn't happen, because you'd get a red card. I said it happens all the time. Who is closer to accurate?

 

[Grace T.]

"all the time" is not the same as "multiple times per season".

"all the time" would be multiple times per game, every game. Is that what you're experiencing? Or is it 6 times per season, and always the same 2 clubs?

It doesn’t really matter. It’s the reverse argument re the bathrooms….if even 1 kid gets molestered by the crazy guy in the dress. Sf may very well be a more tolerant place. But you’d have to use the hammer not only in San Francisco but also in the sf valley and also in the barrios of downtown la or watts or rural South Carolina. Sf is the place we’d be least concerned about and fifa can’t even get Mexican fans to not use the p word.

 

[Slobodan]

Sf must be a magical place because I’ve seen it happen against kids of color in the val and la at lease a dozen times. In no case did the ref do anything (beyond in a handful of cases a verbal warning…reason the ref doesn’t have proof and it isn’t worth the aggravation). Neither did the coaches (one coach challenged our coach to a fist fight for even suggesting their player did that). And I’ve seen plenty of Latino coaches in the barrio let the m and n words float around freely (so white kids looking to play on those higher, even highest, level letter league teams walk away). To make it work you’d have to use the hammer: life time bans and expulsion for both parents and kids, force people like slobi to use pronouns and not dead name.

I'm capable of using pronouns. If you demand I use them, I keep it simple... "dipshit" and "attention whore".

 

[RandomSoccerFan]

I'm capable

Doesn't appear so.

 

[Slobodan]

Doesn't appear so.

If you losers can make up pronouns, so can I. At least mine are accurate.

 

[Grace T.]

I'm capable of using pronouns. If you demand I use them, I keep it simple... "dipshit" and "attention whore".

and @dad4, I rest my case.

 

[Slobodan]

and @dad4, I rest my case.

What kind of mentally sane man or woman wants to be referred to as "they" and "them"?

On what fucking planet is that the least bit normal?

 

[dad4]

Move the bar much? You said come to NorCal, and it doesn't happen, because you'd get a red card. I said it happens all the time. Who is closer to accurate?

If you're looking at bronze games in East SJ or the CV, that's a completely different culture. But a ftm would not be welcome on a girl's team in those areas, either.

The only ftm I've seen are all in letter leagues, and all based on rich cities. So let's talk about what they would face if they were at the same club, but on a boy's team.

 

[RandomSoccerFan]

If you're looking at bronze games in East SJ or the CV, that's a completely different culture. But a ftm would not be welcome on a girl's team in those areas, either.

The only ftm I've seen are all in letter leagues, and all based on rich cities. So let's talk about what they would face if they were at the same club, but on a boy's team.

As Grace notes, it doesn't matter, it applies to all. But I'm talking about direct experiences in what are considered the "best" leagues in NorCal.

 

[Grace T.]

If you're looking at bronze games in East SJ or the CV, that's a completely different culture. But a ftm would not be welcome on a girl's team in those areas, either.

The only ftm I've seen are all in letter leagues, and all based on rich cities. So let's talk about what they would face if they were at the same club, but on a boy's team.

Not that way it works. You can’t say “well so long as the umc kids in letter leagues in rich cities are ok”. If the kid in South Carolina or the val wants to play you gotta make sure there’s a safe space there too, not just the places we are least likely to have problems. You gotta be prepared to use the hammer on slobi, his kids, the Latino league coaches and the kids in rural Florida if they don’t comply including pronouns. My kid is an umc kids from the burbs…under your rule if he put on the dress he shouldn’t be denied the slot to play for the mls next team in the barrio if that’s where the slot is…kids commute 3 hrs sometimes yo play for the top teams.

I see we’ve gone from the “it’s not happening” to “yes it happens but only rarely” to “yes it happens but only in places that don’t matter”. Up next I guess is “yes it happens but let me tell you why it’s a good thing”.

 

[Grace T.]

Is that a post-Modernist belief? Sounds like a euphemism for "stereotyping" to me. I couldn't give a shit what JD Vance thinks, and I'm not going to use him as a gauge on how I should judge this issue.

Oh I forgot the other one from the 90s that got the Ds all upset (Janet Reno, Will Ferrell and the dance party). I just saw an article flash across my screen where Will Ferrell said he'd never do that today and it's one of his biggest regrets.

 

[watfly]

Oh I forgot the other one from the 90s that got the Ds all upset (Janet Reno, Will Ferrell and the dance party). I just saw an article flash across my screen where Will Ferrell said he'd never do that today and it's one of his biggest regrets.

Slobby already beat you to that one. I can't fault Will Ferrell and its probably just peer pressure that is causing him claim regret today. The skit was dumb, but Will Ferrell dressed as Janet Reno, hilarious. He probably regrets doing a skit with Giuliani, more so than doing drag.

Everyone's looking to be offended by something these days. I'm all for being considerate of other's feelings, but let's not overreact, particularly when it has zero impact on you.

 

[Karlton Athletic]

Well what do you think "research" means? I just googled titles? It is "all inclusive"... including putting them in the boy's bathroom for trannies that go from female to male. Why? Because they're still females and need tampons. Aren't we supposed to call FTM trannies "boys"?

There are literally ZERO tampon machines in boys' bathroom. The law left it up to school districts to decide what "put menstrual products where they may be needed" means and DID NOT MANDATE TAMPONS IN BOYS' BATHROOMS.

Pretty fucking simple... even if you don't understand basic physiology. Where else are they needed besides females? If you need a tampon BECAUSE YOU'RE A FEMALE, why are you in the boy's bathroom or locker room? You're the same losers that say men can get pregnant.

Well, how about the possibility that the visiting girls' team might occasionally have to use the boys' changing rooms, a real example from one of the lawmakers? But again, the bill left it up to each school district and DID NOT MANDATE TAMPONS IN BOYS' BATHROOMS. No school district ended up putting tampons in boys' bathrooms.

“Her running mate approved — signed into legislation — tampons in boys’ bathrooms, OK,” Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, said of Ms. Harris on Monday during a live audio stream on X. “Now that’s all I have to hear.”

Trump's speaking so it's obviously BS designed to keep his base angry: THE BILL DID NOT MANDATE TAMPONS IN BOYS' BATHROOMS.

The law was written by Democratic lawmakers with the intent of including transgender students, and has been celebrated by supporters for urging schools to put the products wherever they may be needed. But with each of Minnesota’s more than 300 school districts responsible for drafting a plan for meeting the requirements of the law, schools have not interpreted it as a mandate to specifically place tampons and pads in restrooms designated only for boys.

I mean, you say it right there: "But with each of Minnesota’s more than 300 school districts responsible for drafting a plan for meeting the requirements of the law, schools have not interpreted it as a mandate to specifically place tampons and pads in restrooms designated only for boys."

Seeing as you seem to be relying on Mr. Trump to interpret the law for you, here's the full text of the part that has you raving like a lunatic so you can see it yourself. Nothing about boys' bathrooms and nothing about transgender students. THE BILL DID NOT MANDATE TAMPONS IN BOYS' BATHROOMS.

Section 1.​

[121A.212] ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.​

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.