Why do you think an elite girl can't compete in a soccer game against a trans girl? Is it because you're misogynistic?
Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.
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Why do you think an elite girl can't compete in a soccer game against a trans girl? Is it because you're misogynistic?
I would agree with you 100% that Lia Thomas has taken the heat for just wanting to participate. I don’t blame her at all. I don’t think she “decided” to make a change to win a championship…she was being her true self…I blame the institutions, NCAA, governing body’s, the woke mob, media, and others for allowing it to play out the way it did. I use her name and situation as an example of how not to do it. I’m not blaming her, and have not made that clear.
Not directed at you Woobie06. I was mirroring your comment about others perspective of "Biological Girls/Women…just suck it up."
I'm about 95% in agreement with your comments. The one thing I could see considering would be allowing pre-puberty transitions to compete against the opposite biological gender. Pre-puberty transition is a whole other can of worms, I've seen successes and failures with that and I don't wish that decision on anyone.
Why expect a huge shift to the m/f balance?
The trans population is small. If the court recognizes trans as "none of the above", you go from 50/50 to 49/49/2. It's a giant change for the '2', but not a big deal for anyone else.
It may not end up there,but it would be as good compromise.
Does your shoulder hurt from patting yourself on the back so much….it’s funny how intolerant you are while insisting everyone else be tolerant.
I feel for you. Must be tough managing so many insecurities.
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Such crap. You have repeatedly used her as your "boogie man" to rationalize your desired mistreatment of children. You also literally said that Lia Thomas- not the NCAA - infringed on the rights of other women.
I already answered your question about whether biological males have a physiological advantage over biological females, but I will point out the exact post as soon as you admit that biological girls virtually always have their substantial advantages over trans girls, including: (1) emotional advantages; (2) purposes for engaging in sustained levels of development and commitment that do not exist for trans girls, such as the potential for a scholarship or admission to a college using their athletic ability that would otherwise be out of reach; (3) supportive parents who are also willing to make the sustained commitment to support their child in a sport in which it is incredibly expensive and time consuming just to keep up ability-wise.
How tough can it be to check boxes in a narrative playbook?
You mean like CIF, ECNL, the NCAA, the USWNT, SCOTUS, a significant number of the most important female athletes in history (Billie Jean King, Megan Rapinoe, and Candace Parker Join Nearly 200 Athletes Supporting Trans Youth Participation in Sports - Women's Sports Foundation (womenssportsfoundation.org), plus the bronze medalist (at least) in the infamous Lia Thomas race?
Feel free to be dismissive all you want. Even if you label the actual reasons that actual things are actually happening a "narrative playbook", it doesn't change what is actually happening or why.
Haha…FFS…The “situation” infringed on others rights. I sincerely apologize if I have not been super clear. My apologies to you. I should go back and put “Controversy” after her name if you go back and look, which I did in one of the first posts anyway. Jesus Christ…get back in the Subaru, go to hot yoga and have a boba or chi tea. I bet you are just insufferable AF IRL. Anyway….
The problem in all these conversations seems to be that people on the extreme ends get uber emotional when talking about these things, and are intolerant. People who are more centrist seem to want to discuss, not call names, and don’t gaslight…like….YOUR a TRANSPHOBE!!! I’m not innocent with my Subaru, Sticker, and insufferable comments, but I can only take so much…it’s my mea culpa…
Don’t Misgender Lia…”Boogie Woman” since we are being tick tack.
OMFG….there is not a world we live in where a Biological Female has a Physiological advantage over a Biological Male in sports…well…except for the Biological Females ability to be a Birth Person…
Maybe we should put that in the Olympics and see how many Biological Males Qualify…Again, I already answered your question, and it is once again clear that you continue to refuse to acknowledge that cis girls also have their own advantages. Again, you only want to talk about the one factor you like and pretend that the ones that don't do not exist - because acknowledging the ones you don't forces you to admit that you deem a trophy in U14 soccer to be more important than the abuse that trans girls must suffer if they were forced to play with boys.
Well, too bad so sad. Again, CIF, ECNL, the NCAA, the USWNT, SCOTUS, a significant number of the most important female athletes in history (Billie Jean King, Megan Rapinoe, and Candace Parker Join Nearly 200 Athletes Supporting Trans Youth Participation in Sports - Women's Sports Foundation (womenssportsfoundation.org), plus the bronze medalist (at least) in the infamous Lia Thomas race, all agree with me. The mere fact that you can't acknowledge that any of them have a single legitimate reason to justify their position, no matter how many times or how exhaustively they have done so, is pretty nuts.
You were quite clear that you were pinning this on Ms. Thomas. I have been quite clear why your comments are transphobic. FFS, you can't even admit that a single legitimate reason supports a trans girl playing soccer with other girls. Instead, you must go down the rabbit hole of claiming that CIF, ECNL, the USWNT, the NCAA, SCOTUS and Ms. Thomas' own competitor are crazy. Well, the truth is they are rational and your refusal to accept that makes you transphobic.
It's interesting that you don't understand that stupid jokes like this relating to appropriate gender or pronoun are transphobic.
Are any of you transphobes out there willing to admit that a single legitimate reason supports letting a trans girl play in ECNL? I'm not asking you whether they outweigh your "men are men and women are women" argument. Are any of you willing to admit that the likely repercussions of not letting a trans girl participate - such as the likely abuse if forced to play with boys and the likely negative emotional effects of not being able to be around people with whom she associates and would be more comfortable - even constitute legitimate factors to consider in the discussion?
Hypocrite and Gaslight much…Jesus. It’s very clear that if people do not believe what you believe, your ideology, narrative etc., that others are Phobic, Racist, Intolerant, etc. Look in the mirror…I just don’t agree with you. I have a perspective and because you disagree I am all these things. It’s pretty weird.
A month ago I thought mtf athletes in rec would work. The assumption was that people would be reasonable if there was a problem.
The more EOTL posts, the more I realize that just isn't true. 99% of people might be reasonable. But the rest are like EOTL. If you ask their 6'4" trans girl to join a coed or boys leagues, they'll threaten boycotts and lawsuits until you let their safety hazard go break someone's arm.
The more EOTL posts, the more I realize that just isn't true. 99% of people might be reasonable. But the rest are like EOTL. If you ask their 6'4" trans girl to join a coed or boys leagues, they'll threaten boycotts and lawsuits until you let their safety hazard go break someone's arm.
Because the legal rationale for the balance was men and women were equal and entitled to equal shares. If one is for everyone (men women non-binary mtf ftm genetically different) and one is a special lesser protected category for women, you just knocked out the stool on which that equality rests. There’s nothing that says it must be proportional then.
Don't they already use proportionality?
You seem to be arguing in favor of a conflict which has already been resolved. We know how to apply Title IX to a school with a 70/30 gender split. Figuring out how to extend that to handle a three way split isn't particularly difficult.