I got to believe that its more than that. Can they be that desperate to be "right" on an internet forum? It could be any number of things, but my theory is that its selfishness and fear. They believe that kids have a responsibility to protect them as an adult, so they supported school shutdowns. Their defense of science is just a defense mechanism. How's that for forum psychoanalysis?
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Maybe, just maybe, I believe that you are wrong.
We have had over a million Americans die from covid. Perhaps I believe this was a bad thing, and that responsibility lies with the adults who refused to do their part.
Nah, couldn’t be that.
All true but it's not just a defense mechanism for their fear. They can't bring themselves to accept that the technocracy they've built (and of which some of them are members) might have failed so spectacularly because it impacts their own self worth and life choices. The technocrats remember have now a stunning record of failure including the Iraq War, the 2008 financial crisis, the COVID response, and the current inflationary cycle. Coming down the track is climate change and their mea cupla for their tossing nuclear overboard when Europe potentially freezes this winter and our energy prices are eye popping.
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SILVER ELITE
complete gibberish. There was junk science and medicine being endorsed on all networks..all. The frothy, self serving doctors and scientits being platformed for all to see was disgusting and shameful. networks were more than happy to drive ratings using scare tactics - winter of death, kids killing grandparents, etc..all BS and very unscientific. The end result of all of this was an increase in adolescent suicide, a significant impact on childhood education, and an immeasurable impact on all fronts for children in less than ideal socio economic conditions. For those who sit behind "gated" communities with powerful wifi and access to online tutoring, organized school districts, and parents who can stay at home, the pandemic was a blip in time. To some kids it was great. For many, not so much.
p.s. the historical record is very clear. The CDC was planning as early as the beginning of February to shut down schools. I remember I was listening to a news report on CNN about the CDC telling schools they should potentially be prepared for a months long shutdown which sent me into high gear about prepping my own kids school (which was oblivious). The Birx book confirms all of this....it was them, not the Trump admin or Pence, who was pushing it.
This article makes a very articulate argument for how science has failed our children.
www.scientificamerican.com
Science and Society Are Failing Children in the COVID Era
The school reopening debate points toward a broader range of problems facing the young
BTW I get why the schools would be closed in spring of 2020. We didn't know what the IFR was for sure back then, China was lying about its data, and the news out of China was filled with horror stories. I don't fault them for the closures spring of 2020. I would have done the same thing if I had been Queen-Empress. I do fault them for the closures in Fall of 21. By then we knew more about the IFR. We knew who was being affected. We knew kids weren't being heavily impacted. And exceptions had already been drawn for the BLM protests. The reality is the teachers were scared, so the teachers unions demanded things, and public health was all too willing to run cover for them....it's why Los Angeles didn't reopen it's private schools and didn't grant waivers for the young elementary kids while other counties did. Public health had also backed itself into a complete corner with the nonsensical 6 ft rule which ultimately had zero scientific basis.
Pollo Elastico
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Few if any are arguing the spring closure was bad. However by the summer we knew young people were not at risk. And despite that in many parts of the country they keep kids out of schools.
Pollo Elastico
BRONZE
And remember this when you consider info that comes from the gov.
MORE FROM THE NEW CIVIL LIBERTIES ALLIANCE: NCLA Suit Uncovers Army of Federal Bureaucrats Coercing Social-Media Companies to Censor Speech. “The New Civil Liberties Alliance, the Attorney General of Missouri, and the Attorney General of Louisiana, have filed a lawsuit that blows the lid off a sprawling federal censorship regime that will shock the conscience of Americans. The joint statement on discovery disputes in the lawsuit, State of Missouri ex rel. Schmitt, et al. v. Joseph R. Biden, Jr., et al., reveals scores of federal officials across at least eleven federal agencies have secretly communicated with social-media platforms to censor and suppress private speech federal officials disfavor. This unlawful enterprise has been wildly successful.”
MORE FROM THE NEW CIVIL LIBERTIES ALLIANCE: NCLA Suit Uncovers Army of Federal Bureaucrats Coercing Social-Media Companies to Censor Speech. “The New Civil Liberties Alliance, the Attorney General of Missouri, and the Attorney General of Louisiana, have filed a lawsuit that blows the lid off a sprawling federal censorship regime that will shock the conscience of Americans. The joint statement on discovery disputes in the lawsuit, State of Missouri ex rel. Schmitt, et al. v. Joseph R. Biden, Jr., et al., reveals scores of federal officials across at least eleven federal agencies have secretly communicated with social-media platforms to censor and suppress private speech federal officials disfavor. This unlawful enterprise has been wildly successful.”
That’s odd. It reads like an article by scientists who are advocating for the children.This article makes a very articulate argument for how science has failed our children.
Science and Society Are Failing Children in the COVID Era
The school reopening debate points toward a broader range of problems facing the young
Bruddah IZ
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Actually an MD and health policy professionals. Not virologists or epidemiologists which is who you claim we should follow. Keep trying....actually don't.
Nason Maani, Ph.D., is a Harkness Fellow in Health Care Policy and Practice at the Boston University School of Public Health.
Sandro Galea, MD, DrPH, is professor and dean at the Boston University School of Public Health.
Read their bios.
Nason Maani
Placement: Boston University School of Public Health Mentor: Sandro Galea, M.D., M.P.H., D.P.H., Dean and Robert A. Knox Professor, Boston University School of Public Health Project: COVID-19, Inequity, and Underinvestment in US Population Health Nason Maani, Ph.D., M.Sc. PH, FRSA, is a 2019–20...
Sandro Galea | SPH
www.bu.edu
These are not primary care physicians. They are a pair of epidemiologist academics doing exactly what you say you wanted them to do. And they were doing it back in March, 2021.
I can still hear the dirt hitting the blade of the shovel.Nason Maani, Ph.D., is a Harkness Fellow in Health Care Policy and Practice at the Boston University School of Public Health.
Sandro Galea, MD, DrPH, is professor and dean at the Boston University School of Public Health.
Read their bios.
Nason Maani
Placement: Boston University School of Public Health Mentor: Sandro Galea, M.D., M.P.H., D.P.H., Dean and Robert A. Knox Professor, Boston University School of Public Health Project: COVID-19, Inequity, and Underinvestment in US Population Health Nason Maani, Ph.D., M.Sc. PH, FRSA, is a 2019–20...www.commonwealthfund.org
Sandro Galea | SPH
These are not primary care physicians. They are a pair of epidemiologist academics doing exactly what you say you wanted them to do. And they were doing it back in March, 2021.
I would add that it just wasn't schools, but all the athletics that were shut down and play dates discouraged for kids that also went into the damage equation. Remember, Newsom's crazy return to sports matrix?
I'll put on my broken record, the complete lack of accountability and checks and balances for scientific opinion has led us to this point.
Bruddah IZ
DA
SB 866, the bill to let minors get vaccinated without parental consent, is officially dead.
Like this ole gem…
Paddle boarder chased by boat, arrested in Malibu after flouting coronavirus closures
The man, who wasn't identified, faces a fine of $1,000 or six months in jail, or both, if convicted of violating the state stay-at-home order.
www.latimes.com
There was a doctor on CNN this morning that said there is not enough proven benefit to warrant getting the booster that just came out...much to the dismay of the anchor.
kickingandscreaming
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Interesting. Two days ago I called to get my daughter’s vaccination records for college and they refused my request because “your daughter is 12 or older” and we need her permission for this request. Glad CA has their eye on the ball looking out for our youth. We can’t have their parents knowing their child’s vaccination status once they are 12.
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The trials mice the booster were tested on would beg to differ. They all agree the booster works just fine and that we should at least try it..
I think it might be 18 or older. My kids are 13 and 17 and I’ve had no problems getting their covid vaccination records immediately texted to me via this California website. https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/