Vaccine

dad4 said:
That would be a great argument for a world with only one variant and where vaccines are always either 0% or 100% effective.
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“Human beings have a strong dramatic instinct toward binary thinking, a basic urge to divide things into two distinct groups, with nothing but an empty gap in between. We love to dichotomize. Good versus bad. Heroes versus villains. My country versus the rest. Dividing the world into two distinct sides is simple and intuitive, and also dramatic because it implies conflict, and we do it without thinking, all the time.”

~Hans Rosling
 
Reading the twitter extremes of both camps its interesting where they are beginning to coalesce. Granted, twitter is no place for moderation, but it's an interesting look at the polarization.

The rhetoric on the anti-restriction forces has gone from the experts/politicians advocating restrictions are wrong, to they are idiots, to they should be fired to now they should be in jail (serious calls to jail people like Birx, Fauci and Ferrer).

The Covidians are openly talking about whether they need to form self-isolated communities (schools, work, neighborhoods) where everyone will wear masks and keep up their vaccination. Openly acknowledging it's now a permanent emergency requiring permanent changes.

Granted further Covid is only one small part of the polarization (there's some much more from the economy to abortion), the vast majority of people have moved on and don't care, but it's interesting the extremes are COVID have settled on "we can't live with these people".
 
Hüsker Dü said:
“Human beings have a strong dramatic instinct toward binary thinking, a basic urge to divide things into two distinct groups, with nothing but an empty gap in between. We love to dichotomize. Good versus bad. Heroes versus villains. My country versus the rest. Dividing the world into two distinct sides is simple and intuitive, and also dramatic because it implies conflict, and we do it without thinking, all the time.”

~Hans Rosling
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you quoting Rosling....priceless. You must be an earth hater..
 
Grace T. said:
Reading the twitter extremes of both camps its interesting where they are beginning to coalesce. Granted, twitter is no place for moderation, but it's an interesting look at the polarization.

The rhetoric on the anti-restriction forces has gone from the experts/politicians advocating restrictions are wrong, to they are idiots, to they should be fired to now they should be in jail (serious calls to jail people like Birx, Fauci and Ferrer).

The Covidians are openly talking about whether they need to form self-isolated communities (schools, work, neighborhoods) where everyone will wear masks and keep up their vaccination. Openly acknowledging it's now a permanent emergency requiring permanent changes.

Granted further Covid is only one small part of the polarization (there's some much more from the economy to abortion), the vast majority of people have moved on and don't care, but it's interesting the extremes are COVID have settled on "we can't live with these people".
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There are always the extremes which now garner more attention than the majority of us somewhere in between. Social media and 24/7 news have made moderate boring and extreme exciting. I like boring, if I want excitement I’ll paddle out at the pier with a bunch of summertime kooks.
 
dad4 said:
Your quote was from 2021. They were talking about Delta.

Did you think they had superpowers and could see the future, thus knowing about BA.5 before it even evolved?
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1. birx is going around saying she knew the vaccines wouldn’t end it. That leaves you with either she’s lying now or didn’t want to say anything then because she’d be lying. She’s said the vaccines were “oversold”
2. some of us were saying it would continue to evolve away from vaccine protection
3. Guess that means some of us have superpowers. Can I be powergirl?
 
Interesting that one supervisor and some of the press have come out against ferrer reinstalling the mask mandates. There have also been a series of minor scandals involving ferrer over the last week (including her calling kids vectors in a private discussion with schools urging them to more robust protections than prescribed by her decrees and the masking study her daughter worked on). Then there’s the controversy involving the usc docs when first they said hospitals were not under strain and then backpeddled. Lax mask compliance has not been more than 50% and anecdotally from a few businesses that I know that have brought it back the mandated are being ignored. I’m beginning to question is this will survive or if she’ll use the leveling off of cases (whether or not they really have) as a justification to back off.
 
dad4 said:
Did you think they had superpowers and could see the future, thus knowing about BA.5 before it even evolved?
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So the problem dad has again...

Is either they were lying...or they didn't know.

And yet they made policy you like and are still defending. You are a true believer that refuses to admit that what you liked and followed was bad policy that has created a myriad of terrible outcomes.
 
I think by now we can all see we have two types of human species. Those who admit when wrong, searches for Truth, honest, compassionate and loving. Then we have the psychopaths. They cant and will never feel like a human. No compassion and will always lie, cheat, steal and will never admit wrong doing. You all are seeing it played out live. Choose the Light.
 
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Desert Hound said:
So the problem dad has again...

Is either they were lying...or they didn't know.
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You are asking whether NIH knew, in 2021, about a variant which did not yet exist.

Of course they didn’t know. Very few people know about things which do not yet exist.

Perhaps you would rther get your medical advice from the psychic friends network.
 
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