Those are all things other people can do.
What sacrifices are you prepared to make as part of that common ground?
Vaccine
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What sacrifices are you prepared to make as part of that common ground?
Perhaps we didn’t. And some of those may have been more important than others.
We have a lot to learn from what we did wrong. But “next time do nothing” is the wrong conclusion.
The single most important thing is to quarantine if you're sick. Everything else is effectively window dressing and the individual has far more responsibility and control for their own health than their neighbor does.
No one is proposing do nothing, but good luck implementing any mandates for the next pandemic.
You’re probably right that next time we will have a purely voluntary disease containment system.
I just don’t think it will be very effective, even when compared to what we did over the last 2 years.
The keyword is "we" didn't know shit about anything because the one pulling the strings is paying people off with killer jobs to play along and to STFU or they get no money. Bribes is played as well and blackmail is used at the highest level on this planet. Seriously, when we find out who got blackmailed and the punishment for not obeying the blackmailer, we will all have compassion on those who cheated because they got blackmailed. Once someone get's bought with a job, then they can be bribed and then blackmailed. If you refused to get the jab and pay with your own blood, then you were cut off from buying and selling. I read this in Revelations 13 and have some great insights at 55. Revelations is all about the revealing of the TRUTH, not Armageddon, nukes, hell, fear and judgement with severe punishment. Its all about the reveling of all the wonderful and beautiful mysteries that were kept from us all. I know were all dying to know more about all this. Like, "why was I born" and "where do I come from" and "Is there a God" "is the bible real?" And this one, "what happens after I die?" Like really, none of us really know the truth because "they" kept the truth from us. They know the truth but they deliberately hid the truth so we would be in the mess. Now what?
"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
I don't know exactly what all these numbers mean and I am no biblical scholar, but it doesn't say you can't eat and survive if you don't take the mark. It only says you can't buy or sell, which is not the worst thing in the world. You can still eat and play and move about is how I read into it. Fear based anything to get people to obey a ruler sucks!!! Love you brother, regardless if we agree on anything.....lol. We agree on so much that were truly soul brothers from another mother and have much in common.
The ones I’ve already made…
This last plandemic was just a dry run to see who the trouble makers are and who the sheep are. Now that they know, mark my words we will have the real test of manhood coming before mid-terms. I kid you not. Who will pass the test?
Desert Hound
DA
The part you miss is that if one is to sacrifice something it must actually make a difference.
Keeping kids out of schools didn't
Putting people out of work didn't
Running around with masks didn't
Printing money and creating the largest inflation rate in 40 yrs didn't
Firing people for not being vaxxed didn't
Outside of virtue signaling that "we" are doing something, none made a difference. The virus spread.
Quarantine if you sick? YES
Focus on getting a vax out to the most vulnerable...YES
Hüsker Dü
DA
I’ve read people who are asymptomatic don’t know they are sick, is that a thing? Asking for a fellow poster.
Making policy based on the assumption that everyone could be sick is a high cost/low benefit approach aka bad policy. It also takes the focus away from those far more likely to spread the virus.
BTW, California must have thought there wasn't risk from asymptomatics when they allowed Covid positive nurses to return to work.
Nonsense.
But please continue. No one expects anything better from you at this point.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
If my daughter was in public school or if she would have been in college, I would have gladly made myself available to teach HS on campus after getting my vaccine if it would have gotten the kids back in school sooner. I would have accepted wearing a mask inside if required as well.
This goes to a different approach that I believe, historically, is much more suited to our culture than enforcing mandates. Ask people to problem-solve - don't force things on them. Allow people to be part of the solution instead of using an authoritarian approach which was the antithesis of our country's foundation.
Excellent come back bro and I like that Husker engages you and me others. The focus the last two years was simple. Scare the shit out of people first and foremost and cause chaos and confusion and then force people to obey or else and then steal the election from t so they can single handily steal the American Dream from us regular folks. Buckle up cowboy because the ride is going to be a rough one and you have no saddle bro.
@Desert Hound this is how Espola started with me years ago. "Nonsense" and then a few "Coo Coo." If you continue on a roll and trigger him even past Coo Coo, then he will go low blow and personal, use other Avatars to speak through his true feelings and then he will ignore you. Husker Du has 36 on ignore and I'm not one of them, imagine that. Love you Hound Dog
Hüsker Dü
DA
Cuz some won’t cooperate anyways right? Some militantly so . . .
Your last line reminded me of this from second grade history: The Continental Army was the army of the Thirteen Colonies and the Revolutionary-era United States. It was formed by the Second Continental Congress after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War, and was established by a resolution of Congress on June 14, 1775.
Dr. F just announced were out of the pandemic stage and we can all go back to the way things were. Yay and yippie all in one I feel safe now and feel like the worst is all behind us. This is amazing news and I hope we can all get along now, mask or no mask and jab or no jab. Let's hire those people back who got fired. Pay them for their losses. No more masks, so stoked. My buddy is all bent and out of his mind today.
I feel safe now and feel like the worst is all behind us. This is amazing news and I hope we can all get along now, mask or no mask and jab or no jab. Let's hire those people back who got fired. Pay them for their losses. No more masks, so stoked. My buddy is all bent and out of his mind today.
Desert Hound
DA
CDC and FDA 'altered' Covid guidance while under pressure, report
Federal investigators spoke to more than two dozen top-level directors and managers who worked at the agencies behind the country's public health guidance that aimed to keep Americans safe.
With time the facts start to trickle out...and it makes the gov and the maskers/lockdowners look worse and worse.
what-happened
GOLD
Sums up the behaviour of politicians, CEOs and political public health "officials" the last 18-24 months. Hey you, 5 yr old, wear a mask.. hey you, healthy 20 year old, vaxxed and boosted please. The Drake meme comes to mind.