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Thats why you go to a treating physician for Covid and not a researcher or epidemiologist. But I suspect you already know that and are just being your typical obtuse self.It's not "a study", it's a summary of "studies", put together by the Infectious Diseases Society of America, a non-profit organization of doctors and researchers in the field.
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This from a guy who is a member of a pedo pack with @GoldenShower and @Fister Du
Does "obtuse" stretch enough to cover this?
"There is a lack of consensus among society and organizational guidelines on whether remdesivir should be used in the management of COVID-19, given the varying results in existing clinical trial data."
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Ivermectin. Remdesivir intended action to directly block the polymerase of RNA viruses, thus blocking the viral replication cycle.
Weird that its a recommended treatment by the NIH. So are your saying that the NIH is recommending bullshit treatments? Who should we listen to then? Your cherry picked sources?
Figure 2. Therapeutic Management of Adults Hospitalized for COVID-19 Based on Disease Severity | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines
Learn about the pharmacologic management of hospitalized adults with COVID-19.
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
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There are issues that limit its effectiveness. It has to be bioactivated, and it is short lived in circulation. Those are things that the chemists can work on. But there is a also a legitimate debate as to whether it enhances the rate of viral genetic changes, and, for other viruses, drug resistant variants can be selected. But it is nice to have a drug in the arsenal that targets something besides the spike protein. Remdesvir and related drugs occupy that niche.
Your description of a non-effective prophylactic that might reduce viral load once infected seems to apply to both Ivermectin and Remdesivir, mechanics of how that may be accomplished aside.
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One thing to know is that there is much incentive in the pharmaceutical industry to repurpose drugs. There are a number of reasons, with the main one being that a repurposed drug does not need to go through the same sort of FDA approval process, which makes it much cheaper to bring to market for a new application. I can guarantee you that there are studies throwing chemical libraries with known drugs looking for compounds that block Ace2 binding to spike. Something that actually can get into the airway side of the aveolar sacs. The work is already there showing that, at very high concentration, ivermectin can block Ace2-spike. In fact, because of its structure, it can block many protein-protein interactions because of its structure, sort of non-specifically. But delivering ivermectin to the aveolii at the necessary concentration to block that interaction in people is not a trivial matter-getting a big chemical structure drug across that membrane is just tough. You need a very high circulating concentration for that to even be possible. And at those concentrations it gets into the CNS and is a rather potent neurotoxin. If CoV-2 were an enteric virus it might be a different story. Omicron has acquired changes allowing it to infect the upper respiratory tract, so a nasal spray form of ivermectin might be something to try. Don't know if its been looked at it.
The public health push was always going to be directed towards something that could actually confer immunity. A drug approach does not make that possible. But taking ivermectin at proper dosage certainly will not hurt you, and it could conceivably have some benefit on the post infection side. The anti-inflammatory properties, to my understanding, have been mostly looked at with respect to reducing the mortality of full blown COVID19
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Remdesivir has been approved by the FDA for treatment of COVID19. It needed to show efficacy to get that designation. There will likely be a second generation of nucleoside analogue drugs that work better.
Agreed. Now insert any other treatment name in place of remdesivir in that quote and I’ll also agree with that as tautology.
I can not agree that is accurate statement about “much incentive in the pharmaceutical industry to repurpose drugs” when discussing a drug that is out of patent… but you knew that.
The opposite is true of poor nations and humanitarians that just want to save lives as cheaply as possible. Ironically, where some medications are accepted more frequently.
I’m certainly not pushing ‘horse paste’ (that makes me laugh as I actually do my own body weight calculations on the Equine Dewormer, fenbendazole, for my canines veterinary purposes), or bleach.
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thought the approval was for a medical application, and that approval persists after the end date of the patent. generic branding would seem to depends on it. and if you find a new application for an old drug you can get a patent for that with a fraction of the R&D cost. no? people who try to save lives-good on them. you use the tools you have.
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Shoot the messanger and ignore the message in 3..2..1
"Dr. Long also testified that the data shows that deaths of military members from the vaccines exceed deaths from COVID itself."
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"Dr. Long also testified that the data shows that deaths of military members from the vaccines exceed deaths from COVID itself."
US Military Doctor Testifies She Was Ordered by govn administration to 'Cover Up' Vaccine Injuries
Dr. Theresa Long, medical officer with the United States military, has testified in court that she was ordered by a superior to suppress Covid-19 vaccine injuries following the Biden regime’s mandate
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Your article refers to “certain disorders spiked after the vaccine mandate went into effect, including miscarriages and cancers, and neurological problems which increased by 1000 percent.”Shoot the messanger and ignore the message in 3..2..1
"Dr. Long also testified that the data shows that deaths of military members from the vaccines exceed deaths from COVID itself."
US Military Doctor Testifies She Was Ordered by govn administration to 'Cover Up' Vaccine Injuries
Dr. Theresa Long, medical officer with the United States military, has testified in court that she was ordered by a superior to suppress Covid-19 vaccine injuries following the Biden regime’s mandate
You expect us to believe that we had a ten fold increase in cancer and neurological disorders among vaccine recipients, but no one noticed? Ten fold increase, caused by a shot received by 2/3 of the population.
So, this epidemic of cancers and miscarriages has been going on for over a year. At a rate 10X as high as 2 years ago. You’d think someone in oncology would notice the fact that they are a wee bit overworked recently.
People tend to notice when their workload increases tenfold. There is that moment when you look up and think “I haven’t had a day off in seven months. Maybe something is wrong…”
Golly. It’s one humdinger of a mystery. Wonder how they kept it hidden for so long.
Yup, that is also true. Look, I don’t want to give fodder to those that want to draw inaccurate concussions and mislead others… I assume you have a similar inclination given your somewhat dispassionate responses, but I think you and a few others in this forum get my point and I’ll leave it at that.
BTW, I found this recent article interesting…
Experts say BA.2 could be more of a 'bump' than a surge. Is this the future of COVID?
At first, the fear was that BA.2 would spark a surge in the U.S. similar to what has occurred in Europe. But dig into the latest data, and it looks like something different might be happening instead.
Sounds similar to something that was debated previously on this forum.
“Some observers have noted that the U.S. is recording fewer PCR test results now than it was then, in large part because at-home antigen tests — which usually go unreported — are more widely available. “A lot of people are rapid-testing positive for mild cases of COVID, staying home for a few days, getting better, and getting on with life,” the Atlantic’s Derek Thompson noted Thursday. “This cycle makes no contact [with] official data.” Thompson called it “an invisible wave.””
Dr. Long has claimed that the vaccines contain antifreeze. Maybe that is to prevent damage to Bill Gates' microchips.
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