Vaccine

thirteenknots said:
The document LIAR on this forum is none other than YOU Adam Espola Schiff.




* One hundred % correct.... He knows what he's done and posted in the
past, the original " Forum " despised him for the sick desviado comments he made.
He knows it's TRUE.
He can deny it all he wants. But it is TRUE !
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Fact Check: ALSO TRUE
 
MicPaPa said:
In the end, Pelosi and I are on different teams, yet have much in common regarding covid.

Both over 60, not in the best health, got covid, mild symptoms, no hospitalization or serious complications.

Major points we did not have in common, she is fully vaxed and I am not vaxed, she overplayed the mass game and I did not, she did not practice what she preached and I did - oh, and she is a looney lefty and I'm a Conservative.
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Over 60 doesn’t begin to describe it. Pelosi is 82.

For covid, 62 and 82 are not at all similar. Unless you are seriously overweight, Pelosi’s risk has to be at least ten times yours.

Glad your case was mild. Remember there is a second question: how many people were indoors with you in the 3 days just before you suspected you were infected?
 
espola said:
Nice analysis, but it didn't answer the question about the bullshit cures. How can a group claim to be "reality" when part of its schtick includes fantasies?
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Interesting take. There is plenty of bullshit science on the market, everyone has a little piece of the shit pie. Plenty of money to be made on based off of sleight of hand data, shady represation, and some flat out lying. Ivermectin, myocarditis, RCTs, vaccines...you can go on and on. Smart practicioners take everything with a grain of salt and look at all data and make their own informed decision on treatment for their patients.. Sure, there are idiots who try and dose on their own - just like the dummies who think triple masking, bandanas, and personalized fashion cloth masks work.
 
dad4 said:
Over 60 doesn’t begin to describe it. Pelosi is 82.

For covid, 62 and 82 are not at all similar. Unless you are seriously overweight, Pelosi’s risk has to be at least ten times yours.

Glad your case was mild. Remember there is a second question: how many people were indoors with you in the 3 days just before you suspected you were infected?
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BMI has me at obese, my height and past life has me carrying it well, for now.

My point is, understanding a lot of factors and variables go into covid outcomes and deaths, generally, there were many similar outcomes with dissimilar preventive measures, especially pre vaccine.

A small indoor week-long conference, everyone picked up covid on day four from the vaxxed facilitator, one serious case for a vaxxed, but multiple comorbidity guy.
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
That sounds about right based on my understanding. It's one of these big complex carbon ring things that does a little bit of everything. There are some general anti-viral properties associated with ivermectin that may help with management as it is put in the blurb, probably meaning reducing viral load after infection. Given its rapid rate of clearance from the body, however, there is probably no way to get it as sufficiently high circulating concentration to force it onto the airway side of mucosal membranes to prevent Cov-2 from binding Ace2 on the outside of cells, which is a study that some people are going off of. So the physiology/targeting of the drug just does not lend itself to a preventative. The plus side is that people who OD on it generally recover because it is cleared fast. Safer than drinking bleach at any rate.
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As is the case for most things - good studies needed to be performed, without media and political influcence Stuff coming out of cornell, in preprint shows promise VS omicron, outperforming other medications on the market. At a minimum, ivermectin's anti inflammatory properties will aid in recovery and possibly prevent/protect against organ damage. Prescribed and admnistered correctly, there is more potential upside with minimal to zero downside. It's one of the safest known prescribed medications on the planet. But don't tell anyone that.

Would I 100% rely on ivermectin as treatment and prevention..uhh, no. In most cases drs treat disease as a whole. Trying to do basic math and adminstering it from the feed store is never a good thing, unless you are decent at math. I'd be more concerned with people taking other's left over corticosteroid prescription
 
what-happened said:
Smart practicioners take everything with a grain of salt and look at all data and make their own informed decision on treatment for their patients..
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100%. One of my best pals is a really good doctor and does not take bribes or kickbacks and cannot be bought. The pill pushers that come by his office he pushes them next door. This Doc has all the degrees and could prescribe any pills all day or elect to do expensive surgeries and make bank. Nope, he only does Holistic healing with a taste of some western medicine. He and his pateient make all the decisions. He could have got some big time bonuses but he said no to the quick pay out for more time and the more he saw with his time, he could give great advice. He helps you heal yourself first :)
 
espola said:
What is "the forum court"/ You and 13k?
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Lion Eyes, What's Up, GobearGo, Aff, Toros, Bald Ref, Sheriff, Nono, Crush, 13, Droopy, USD, I was only Acting, Threesixty and add me to that list. And those are the ones I know of...

Please continue.

Btw.. You're wrong about T Gwynn. But you normally are.
 
Multi Sport said:
Lion Eyes, What's Up, GobearGo, Aff, Toros, Bald Ref, Sheriff, Nono, Crush, 13, Droopy, USD, I was only Acting, Threesixty and add me to that list. And those are the ones I know of...

Please continue.

Btw.. You're wrong about T Gwynn. But you normally are.
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All highly principled jurists indeed.

What's this about T Gwynn?
 
espola said:
All highly principled jurists indeed.

What's this about T Gwynn?
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Were all fair and impartial as well Espola. Some of us will show mercy when someone is sorry for their lies. That's what's so hard for me. Why do you lie so much? Unless you're Dom and you want to stir the pot, you lie all day and some of us have had it with the lies. Most liars that lie all the time dont know their lying so that right there should tell you that you sir are the forum liar. Guilty by his peers. I am authentic and most don;t agree with me but I dont lie. I do write in satire so you need to know me to know I don't lie. I lose 99% of my friends when I tell them to become like me you must stop eating meat and no booze for 30 days for best results.
 
Multi Sport said:
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A jury of your peers.. didnt

It's your quote in the baseball thread, again not mine. Ignoring it doesn't change a thing, you're still wrong.
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What quote? I might have been wrong about something, but you are apparently afraid to address the details. No surprise there.
 
MicPaPa said:
In the end, Pelosi and I are on different teams, yet have much in common regarding covid.

Both over 60, not in the best health, got covid, mild symptoms, no hospitalization or serious complications.

Major points we did not have in common, she is fully vaxed and I am not vaxed, she overplayed the mass game and I did not, she did not practice what she preached and I did - oh, and she is a looney lefty and I'm a Conservative.
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You aren’t a conservative you are a cult member. Conservatives believe in accountability, you don’t, obviously.
 
MicPaPa said:
BMI has me at obese, my height and past life has me carrying it well, for now.

My point is, understanding a lot of factors and variables go into covid outcomes and deaths, generally, there were many similar outcomes with dissimilar preventive measures, especially pre vaccine.

A small indoor week-long conference, everyone picked up covid on day four from the vaxxed facilitator, one serious case for a vaxxed, but multiple comorbidity guy.
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That’s a strange argument you are trying to push.
 
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