What's going on Cal South and State Cup Semi's?

a video of the birth would probably not satisfy any of you but here are the facts:
1. You all got beat by a Bunch of 2006 girls. DEAL WITH IT
2. The player in question has provided more proof of her age than 99.99% of all club soccer players.
3. I have never seen this much whining since Hillary Lost so the way you all are crying I can only assume most of you are Left wing liberals who don't care about facts or truth.
4. The hatred being spewed over this issue will only hurt each one of you. It will not hurt AS or BW in the long run.
5. If your daughters are not over losing yet then it's obviously from you as a parent.
6. If you need grief counseling I am sure someone can be provided to help
7. Maybe you should protest outside of the cal south office with your Legends, Galaxy, or other favorite club bandana over your faces. I am sure you will feel better.
8. Lastly, all of you Oliver Stones out there just need to take a deep breath and let it all out...then go back to your life and try to focus on raising your kids again.


If any of you really are so concerned about the truth then you should contact Anaheim Surf. I am sure they will be happy to meet with you. None of you have the balls to do that because again refer to number 3 above and it's easier for you to hide behind your computers.
 
Mrjackten said:
a video of the birth would probably not satisfy any of you but here are the facts:
1. You all got beat by a Bunch of 2006 girls. DEAL WITH IT
2. The player in question has provided more proof of her age than 99.99% of all club soccer players.
3. I have never seen this much whining since Hillary Lost so the way you all are crying I can only assume most of you are Left wing liberals who don't care about facts or truth.
4. The hatred being spewed over this issue will only hurt each one of you. It will not hurt AS or BW in the long run.
5. If your daughters are not over losing yet then it's obviously from you as a parent.
6. If you need grief counseling I am sure someone can be provided to help
7. Maybe you should protest outside of the cal south office with your Legends, Galaxy, or other favorite club bandana over your faces. I am sure you will feel better.
8. Lastly, all of you Oliver Stones out there just need to take a deep breath and let it all out...then go back to your life and try to focus on raising your kids again.


If any of you really are so concerned about the truth then you should contact Anaheim Surf. I am sure they will be happy to meet with you. None of you have the balls to do that because again refer to number 3 above and it's easier for you to hide behind your computers.
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So what was the name of the girl who didn't do anything illegal, but was fired from the team? Michelle Flynn?
 
Adriana it's time to contact Cal South PAD to tell your side of the story.

Christie, Committee Chair
818-903-3847 | pad@calsouth.com

The evidence is mounting and no matter what BW is telling you he's not planning to loose his coaching license. AS/BW have made it abundantly clear they aren't taking the blame. So while they've all lawyered up, one thing to keep in mind, those shinny new birth certificates didn't get in YOUR book by themselves. Parents are not going to stop demanding answers and have only just started to blow this up publicly. At some point Cal South will be forced to blame this on someone. Once they've placed this all at your families feet you are done submitting documents, which means your DD will need to find something else to do with her time. BW certainly knew exactly what he was doing, so I don't want to see that happen, but if your not going to tell what you know then you deserve whatever is headed your way.

cookiesncream said:
Why hasn't AS post anything on their State Cup Win? You would think they would post it on their Website or Facebook page. Hmmmm.
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Apparently they won U8 Celtic Cup. The Crossfire picture at the bottom of the page with BW standing there with a champions medal around his neck as the "2006" girl sits feet away gleaming is pathetic.

Kudos to Cal South for creating a new low in youth sports. As you can probably tell the parents have no plans of just letting you sweep this under the rug.
 
Mrjackten said:
a video of the birth would probably not satisfy any of you but here are the facts:
1. You all got beat by a Bunch of 2006 girls. DEAL WITH IT
2. The player in question has provided more proof of her age than 99.99% of all club soccer players.
3. I have never seen this much whining since Hillary Lost so the way you all are crying I can only assume most of you are Left wing liberals who don't care about facts or truth.
4. The hatred being spewed over this issue will only hurt each one of you. It will not hurt AS or BW in the long run.
5. If your daughters are not over losing yet then it's obviously from you as a parent.
6. If you need grief counseling I am sure someone can be provided to help
7. Maybe you should protest outside of the cal south office with your Legends, Galaxy, or other favorite club bandana over your faces. I am sure you will feel better.
8. Lastly, all of you Oliver Stones out there just need to take a deep breath and let it all out...then go back to your life and try to focus on raising your kids again.


If any of you really are so concerned about the truth then you should contact Anaheim Surf. I am sure they will be happy to meet with you. None of you have the balls to do that because again refer to number 3 above and it's easier for you to hide behind your computers.
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Nowhere here do I see you address any of the key points raised. If she was really 2006 why didn't she play? Why did she have multiple registration numbers? Why does she have multiple birth certificates? Why do multiple people from multiple different organizations believe she is ineligible? Is there some grand conspiracy? What possible reason would anyone have to conspire against AS? What reason what anyone have to conspire against this girl and her family?

We are past the point where juvenile insults are going to get a rise out of people in this thread, so unless you're going to answer relevant questions with relevant facts you are wasting your time, and I'm not sure why you keep coming back to read or reply here.
 
Mrjackten said:
2. The player in question has provided more proof of her age than 99.99% of all club soccer players.
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Sounds like she has provided more proof of her various "ages" than 99.99% of all club soccer players. Most produce one document proving one age. She has apparently produced several documents proving two different ages.

Mr. Jackten: It's time to man up, teach your daughter some ethics, and turn in her medal. The taint lingers.
 
Daniel Miller said:
Sounds like she has provided more proof of her various "ages" than 99.99% of all club soccer players. Most produce one document proving one age. She has apparently produced several documents proving two different ages.

Mr. Jackten: It's time to man up, teach your daughter some ethics, and turn in her medal. The taint lingers.
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Why didn't she play?
 
Mrjackten said:
a video of the birth would probably not satisfy any of you but here are the facts:
1. You all got beat by a Bunch of 2006 girls. DEAL WITH IT
2. The player in question has provided more proof of her age than 99.99% of all club soccer players.
3. I have never seen this much whining since Hillary Lost so the way you all are crying I can only assume most of you are Left wing liberals who don't care about facts or truth.
4. The hatred being spewed over this issue will only hurt each one of you. It will not hurt AS or BW in the long run.
5. If your daughters are not over losing yet then it's obviously from you as a parent.
6. If you need grief counseling I am sure someone can be provided to help
7. Maybe you should protest outside of the cal south office with your Legends, Galaxy, or other favorite club bandana over your faces. I am sure you will feel better.
8. Lastly, all of you Oliver Stones out there just need to take a deep breath and let it all out...then go back to your life and try to focus on raising your kids again.


If any of you really are so concerned about the truth then you should contact Anaheim Surf. I am sure they will be happy to meet with you. None of you have the balls to do that because again refer to number 3 above and it's easier for you to hide behind your computers.
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This has got to be on of the most idiotic posts by a man in complete denial. Typically when someone is so defensive about an accusation, it means they are struggling with guilt.
 
Daniel Miller said:
Thunderbolt, I really doubt your integrity. If the girl's 2006 birthdate were confirmed, then why was she not allowed to play? This thing stinks, and so do you, and so does Surf.
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My question is why was this girl not allowed to play if she is truly an 2006?

What is the difference between this thread and the one that was removed? The one that was removed had a parent or 2 that claimed to be on the AS team state that not all families knew of an overaged player and gave some details. If true, this parent(s) implicated Anehiem Surf, the coach and register. This it would be in Surf's best interest to have it pulled.

Now if you look at Thunderbolt, who is his client? Surf is his client and he has no obligation to the parents and players on either SDSurf nor ASurf. I was wrongly thinking that he was on this board to protect the family accused of wrongdoing. But a friend corrected me.

So if Thunderbolt had a meeting with CalSouth, my guess, although it is an educated guess, is that Surf said that there are no facts that we knew anything about an overaged player and you can't prove it. Maybe they had this family take the fall for the team or encouraged them not to play? Either way, because people on this board said that the family does not speak English, I find it hard to believe that they would have the knowledge or the means to falsify a birth certificate if that is what happened. Maybe because they dont speak English, someone told them that their DD was grandfathered in to the team? Why would they doubt their coach and club? So now I have more questions like who was looking out for this families best interest? I doubt they had the knowledge that they should have their own attorney. Did Calsouth, AS or General Counsel inform them that they are not representing them? Not to generalize but the poor and uneducated are generally the ones left holding the bag. And going forward is this family going to be chastised? They may have been a victim in this whole thing too.

No matter how you look at this, some adults somewhere are responsible for this mess and should be held accountable.
 
Joe Diaz said:
Let's hit them where it hurst by boycotting their tournaments and find an alternative to Cal South.
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I think the only option locally outside of Cal-South is AYSO or a Mexican League (there has to be a better name for this league. It doesn't feel right typing that out, but that's all that I've heard these leagues referred to).
 
Joe Diaz said:
Let's hit them where it hurst by boycotting their tournaments and find an alternative to Cal South.
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Alternatives already exist, but they are not very powerful in Southern California - USL Super-Y leagues and US Club Soccer have nationwide presence, elite player identification and training programs, and regional/national tournaments for those who can't get enough.

Realistically, a large majority of pay-to-play teams could get just as good an experience in an AYSO select program (Magic, Matrix, etc) for a lot less money.
 
I think you hit a new nerve in that AS parents may have posted and their remarks were monitored and pulled before being posted. Last year when calendar year was being implemented the family in question asked BW if their daughter could play 06. Here is the ridiculous piece, he stated she could till August 2017 because the age mandate does not take affect till then. Now, at some point the family had to have figured that this was not the truth.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
I think you hit a new nerve in that AS parents may have posted and their remarks were monitored and pulled before being posted. Last year when calendar year was being implemented the family in question asked BW if their daughter could play 06. Here is the ridiculous piece, he stated she could till August 2017 because the age mandate does not take affect till then. Now, at some point the family had to have figured that this was not the truth.
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Are you suggesting Dominic is knuckling under to legal threats? He has already frozen one thread, but "information want to be free" (Stewart Brand, 1984).
 
espola said:
Are you suggesting Dominic is knuckling under to legal threats? He has already frozen one thread, but "information want to be free" (Stewart Brand, 1984).
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Dominic has created a incredible platform for Soccer. I do not know if he knuckled under pressure. I was acknowledging a comment made by the poster FACT that the monitoring last week has brought up a potential insight as to why it occurred.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
I think you hit a new nerve in that AS parents may have posted and their remarks were monitored and pulled before being posted. Last year when calendar year was being implemented the family in question asked BW if their daughter could play 06. Here is the ridiculous piece, he stated she could till August 2017 because the age mandate does not take affect till then. Now, at some point the family had to have figured that this was not the truth.
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Actually at least 1 maybe 2 AS parents did post with info that could implicate AS as having known of the overaged player and were seen on the thread that was removed. Where are those parents now? Does anyone remember their names? Have they been told not to post?

I just can't believe that first AS parents had to tell their kids that they could not play and then Galaxy had to tell their kids the morning of the game and after staying in a hotel that they were not playing afterall. If I were a Galaxy parent that had to waste my time and money and then break my kid's heart, I would want the details so this does not ever happen to another family again.
 
LOL...I sense a riot starting...boycotts, protests, I love it...Go for it....all of you people are all talk...all over a soccer game. You want Answers? You want the truth? Call CalSouth or go stand in their lobby until they tell you....Throw the same tantrums you are throwing on this site. The problem is you all wont believe anything that is told to you. All of you Michael Moores want some story of conspiracy because in your mind that is way easier to believe. You also wont go to CalSouth either because that takes work that none of you really want to do to find the truth...Left Wing Liberal mentality..."We are owed answers! We are owed everything! We are entitled"....Half of you are probably Millennials.
I shouldn't be surprised.

I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.

The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.

Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.

Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.

I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.

BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.
 
timbuck said:
Can someone just answer if the girl was allowed to play or not?
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She was not allowed to play.

My understanding is that birth certificates from foreign countries are often stamped with inaccurate dates and that Cal South has a long history of sorting through this type of thing so if you have video of the birth that might be helpful, but either way Cal South is surely not dropping this anytime soon.

MrJackten can talk about conspiracies all he wants, but cannot get around the fact that to my understanding since U8 this girl played with a 2005 birthdate. Various people including the parents have said in the past that she was born in 2005.

At best for your non-conspiracy everything is fine argument even the person who is allegedly the attorney in all this posted there are documents which "tell a different story". Add to this Cal South not being notified that AS created a new registration and ID number and you can spew all you want, but I'm not going to believe you until you clear up those questions. I defended AS in the beginning of this, but they've refused to clear up these questions that if answered might exonerate them. So if I need to go down to Cal South I have no problems doing that, but I'm sure they have all the information they need at this point. Let's see what they do with it.
 
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Fact said:
Actually at least 1 maybe 2 AS parents did post with info that could implicate AS as having known of the overaged player and were seen on the thread that was removed. Where are those parents now? Does anyone remember their names? Have they been told not to post?

I just can't believe that first AS parents had to tell their kids that they could not play and then Galaxy had to tell their kids the morning of the game and after staying in a hotel that they were not playing afterall. If I were a Galaxy parent that had to waste my time and money and then break my kid's heart, I would want the details so this does not ever happen to another family again.
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Yes what a nightmare for those girls. SMH. Good question...where are the AS parents in all this??? Are they are too embarrassed to say they are leaving to other clubs? And the scorned moms...Where are you going? Will you stay for more? You can't be honest either? Doubt it. Is that coach still coaching & having tryouts? Wonder if he'll wear his medal to tryouts? Oh no...nothing unethical at all going on here.
 
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