I think the only option locally outside of Cal-South is AYSO or a Mexican League (there has to be a better name for this league. It doesn't feel right typing that out, but that's all that I've heard these leagues referred to).
What's going on Cal South and State Cup Semi's?
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Alternatives already exist, but they are not very powerful in Southern California - USL Super-Y leagues and US Club Soccer have nationwide presence, elite player identification and training programs, and regional/national tournaments for those who can't get enough.
Realistically, a large majority of pay-to-play teams could get just as good an experience in an AYSO select program (Magic, Matrix, etc) for a lot less money.
I think you hit a new nerve in that AS parents may have posted and their remarks were monitored and pulled before being posted. Last year when calendar year was being implemented the family in question asked BW if their daughter could play 06. Here is the ridiculous piece, he stated she could till August 2017 because the age mandate does not take affect till then. Now, at some point the family had to have figured that this was not the truth.
Are you suggesting Dominic is knuckling under to legal threats? He has already frozen one thread, but "information want to be free" (Stewart Brand, 1984).
Dominic has created a incredible platform for Soccer. I do not know if he knuckled under pressure. I was acknowledging a comment made by the poster FACT that the monitoring last week has brought up a potential insight as to why it occurred.
Actually at least 1 maybe 2 AS parents did post with info that could implicate AS as having known of the overaged player and were seen on the thread that was removed. Where are those parents now? Does anyone remember their names? Have they been told not to post?
I just can't believe that first AS parents had to tell their kids that they could not play and then Galaxy had to tell their kids the morning of the game and after staying in a hotel that they were not playing afterall. If I were a Galaxy parent that had to waste my time and money and then break my kid's heart, I would want the details so this does not ever happen to another family again.
LOL...I sense a riot starting...boycotts, protests, I love it...Go for it....all of you people are all talk...all over a soccer game. You want Answers? You want the truth? Call CalSouth or go stand in their lobby until they tell you....Throw the same tantrums you are throwing on this site. The problem is you all wont believe anything that is told to you. All of you Michael Moores want some story of conspiracy because in your mind that is way easier to believe. You also wont go to CalSouth either because that takes work that none of you really want to do to find the truth...Left Wing Liberal mentality..."We are owed answers! We are owed everything! We are entitled"....Half of you are probably Millennials.
I shouldn't be surprised.
I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.
The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.
Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.
Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.
I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.
BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.
I shouldn't be surprised.
I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.
The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.
Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.
Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.
I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.
BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.
She did not play.
softwaretest
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She was not allowed to play.
My understanding is that birth certificates from foreign countries are often stamped with inaccurate dates and that Cal South has a long history of sorting through this type of thing so if you have video of the birth that might be helpful, but either way Cal South is surely not dropping this anytime soon.
MrJackten can talk about conspiracies all he wants, but cannot get around the fact that to my understanding since U8 this girl played with a 2005 birthdate. Various people including the parents have said in the past that she was born in 2005.
At best for your non-conspiracy everything is fine argument even the person who is allegedly the attorney in all this posted there are documents which "tell a different story". Add to this Cal South not being notified that AS created a new registration and ID number and you can spew all you want, but I'm not going to believe you until you clear up those questions. I defended AS in the beginning of this, but they've refused to clear up these questions that if answered might exonerate them. So if I need to go down to Cal South I have no problems doing that, but I'm sure they have all the information they need at this point. Let's see what they do with it.
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Yes what a nightmare for those girls. SMH. Good question...where are the AS parents in all this??? Are they are too embarrassed to say they are leaving to other clubs? And the scorned moms...Where are you going? Will you stay for more? You can't be honest either? Doubt it. Is that coach still coaching & having tryouts? Wonder if he'll wear his medal to tryouts? Oh no...nothing unethical at all going on here.
BeepBeep Boop
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So now you're saying that this is the result of a liberal conspiracy? Maybe you think this is fake news? Was the 2005 birth certificate an "alternative birth certificate"? LOLOLOLOL. You add nothing of any value to this discussion. Your "logic" is faulty and your insults are grade school quality (as is your grammar).
He has legal obligations that come with running a public forum. People can demand that false or libelous statements be removed, and occasionally you will see him edit a posting in a way that looks like he is blanking out someone's name. People can also go to court and get a warrant that would force him to disclose everything he knows about a poster - something some of the more intemperate posters here should consider.
With all that said - if D's income from running this server depend in any way on the volume of posts or readers, he must be really happy the last few days.
softwaretest
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Pretty sure him editing things is what gets him into that boat of being forced to remove stuff. Once you demonstrate editorial control you have a problem.
I have always considered myself more of a conservative (the old-fashioned law-abiding, America-loving, personal responsibility kind of conservative, not the modern brand-name elections-for-sale Conservative), but if wanting to hear the true story and see people behave in accordance with the rules makes me a "Left-Wing Liberal" - I guess I might have to switch.
Interesting insight. Good to know. Here is a question how does he determine if post(s) are libelous?
Yes, if hits count on a site I could see him being very happy.
In my brief tenure as manager of various teams, I have had to carry around birth certificates from half a dozen countries. I never saw one where there was any doubt about the date of birth on them. If, as some have suggested, it was a Mexican birth certificate, even I with my limited Spanish training could read everything on the ones I saw.
If someone claims a post is libelous, he would have to put his common sense to work, tempered up by his willingness to risk his reputation and fortune on that. In my own case, when a poster suggested I abused my own children, he wiped out the post after I complained, but did not follow through with my request to ban the poster permanently.
So...under this scenario, if in fact posts were edited and removed. There is a possibility of him not acting alone on this? And may have in fact been pressured? If this happened I can only imagine what a predicament this puts him in.
The easy course for any sys admin is just to remove any postings that are causing him any heartache. This is, after all, a business and not a religion.