What's going on Cal South and State Cup Semi's?

[BeepBeep Boop]

LOL...I sense a riot starting...boycotts, protests, I love it...Go for it....all of you people are all talk...all over a soccer game. You want Answers? You want the truth? Call CalSouth or go stand in their lobby until they tell you....Throw the same tantrums you are throwing on this site. The problem is you all wont believe anything that is told to you. All of you Michael Moores want some story of conspiracy because in your mind that is way easier to believe. You also wont go to CalSouth either because that takes work that none of you really want to do to find the truth...Left Wing Liberal mentality..."We are owed answers! We are owed everything! We are entitled"....Half of you are probably Millennials.
I shouldn't be surprised.

I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.

The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.

Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.

Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.

I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.

BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.

So now you're saying that this is the result of a liberal conspiracy? Maybe you think this is fake news? Was the 2005 birth certificate an "alternative birth certificate"? LOLOLOLOL. You add nothing of any value to this discussion. Your "logic" is faulty and your insults are grade school quality (as is your grammar).

 

[espola]

Dominic has created a incredible platform for Soccer. I do not know if he knuckled under pressure. I was acknowledging a comment made by the poster FACT that the monitoring last week has brought up a potential insight as to why it occurred.

He has legal obligations that come with running a public forum. People can demand that false or libelous statements be removed, and occasionally you will see him edit a posting in a way that looks like he is blanking out someone's name. People can also go to court and get a warrant that would force him to disclose everything he knows about a poster - something some of the more intemperate posters here should consider.

With all that said - if D's income from running this server depend in any way on the volume of posts or readers, he must be really happy the last few days.

 

[softwaretest]

He has legal obligations that come with running a public forum. People can demand that false or libelous statements be removed, and occasionally you will see him edit a posting in a way that looks like he is blanking out someone's name. People can also go to court and get a warrant that would force him to disclose everything he knows about a poster - something some of the more intemperate posters here should consider.

With all that said - if D's income from running this server depend in any way on the volume of posts or readers, he must be really happy the last few days.

Pretty sure him editing things is what gets him into that boat of being forced to remove stuff. Once you demonstrate editorial control you have a problem.

 

[espola]

LOL...I sense a riot starting...boycotts, protests, I love it...Go for it....all of you people are all talk...all over a soccer game. You want Answers? You want the truth? Call CalSouth or go stand in their lobby until they tell you....Throw the same tantrums you are throwing on this site. The problem is you all wont believe anything that is told to you. All of you Michael Moores want some story of conspiracy because in your mind that is way easier to believe. You also wont go to CalSouth either because that takes work that none of you really want to do to find the truth...Left Wing Liberal mentality..."We are owed answers! We are owed everything! We are entitled"....Half of you are probably Millennials.
I shouldn't be surprised.

I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.

The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.

Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.

Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.

I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.

BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.

I have always considered myself more of a conservative (the old-fashioned law-abiding, America-loving, personal responsibility kind of conservative, not the modern brand-name elections-for-sale Conservative), but if wanting to hear the true story and see people behave in accordance with the rules makes me a "Left-Wing Liberal" - I guess I might have to switch.

 

[LASTMAN14]

He has legal obligations that come with running a public forum. People can demand that false or libelous statements be removed, and occasionally you will see him edit a posting in a way that looks like he is blanking out someone's name. People can also go to court and get a warrant that would force him to disclose everything he knows about a poster - something some of the more intemperate posters here should consider.

With all that said - if D's income from running this server depend in any way on the volume of posts or readers, he must be really happy the last few days.

Interesting insight. Good to know. Here is a question how does he determine if post(s) are libelous?

Yes, if hits count on a site I could see him being very happy.

 

[espola]

She was not allowed to play.

My understanding is that birth certificates from foreign countries are often stamped with inaccurate dates and that Cal South has a long history of sorting through this type of thing so if you have video of the birth that might be helpful, but either way Cal South is surely not dropping this anytime soon.

MrJackten can talk about conspiracies all he wants, but cannot get around the fact that to my understanding since U8 this girl played with a 2005 birthdate. Various people including the parents have said in the past that she was born in 2005.

At best for your non-conspiracy everything is fine argument even the person who is allegedly the attorney in all this posted there are documents which "tell a different story". Add to this Cal South not being notified that AS created a new registration and ID number and you can spew all you want, but I'm not going to believe you until you clear up those questions. I defended AS in the beginning of this, but they've refused to clear up these questions that if answered might exonerate them. So if I need to go down to Cal South I have no problems doing that, but I'm sure they have all the information they need at this point. Let's see what they do with it.

In my brief tenure as manager of various teams, I have had to carry around birth certificates from half a dozen countries. I never saw one where there was any doubt about the date of birth on them. If, as some have suggested, it was a Mexican birth certificate, even I with my limited Spanish training could read everything on the ones I saw.

 

[espola]

Interesting insight. Good to know. Here is a question how does he determine if post(s) are libelous?

Yes, if hits count on a site I could see him being very happy.

If someone claims a post is libelous, he would have to put his common sense to work, tempered up by his willingness to risk his reputation and fortune on that. In my own case, when a poster suggested I abused my own children, he wiped out the post after I complained, but did not follow through with my request to ban the poster permanently.

 

[LASTMAN14]

If someone claims a post is libelous, he would have to put his common sense to work, tempered up by his willingness to risk his reputation and fortune on that. In my own case, when a poster suggested I abused my own children, he wiped out the post after I complained, but did not follow through with my request to ban the poster permanently.

So...under this scenario, if in fact posts were edited and removed. There is a possibility of him not acting alone on this? And may have in fact been pressured? If this happened I can only imagine what a predicament this puts him in.

 

[espola]

So...under this scenario, if in fact posts were edited and removed. There is a possibility of him not acting alone on this? And may have in fact been pressured? If this happened I can only imagine what a predicament this puts him in.

The easy course for any sys admin is just to remove any postings that are causing him any heartache. This is, after all, a business and not a religion.

 

[espola]

In my brief tenure as manager of various teams, I have had to carry around birth certificates from half a dozen countries. I never saw one where there was any doubt about the date of birth on them. If, as some have suggested, it was a Mexican birth certificate, even I with my limited Spanish training could read everything on the ones I saw.

Prompted by events and a PM, I dragged out some stuff from my old soccer file box. I have photocopies of three Mexican birth certificates in my old soccer files, one from Guanajuato, one from Guerrero, and one from Distrito Federal. They differ in details to some degree, but all three of them have one date listed as "Fecha de Registro", and another as "Fecha de Nacimiento". The Registro date on all three is later than the Nacimiento date.

 

[krazysoccer]

There exists a valid original birth certificate witnessed by Calsouth and others that confirms the player as a 2006.

There exists a secondary picture identification that confirms the player as a 2006.

There exists school records showing the player photo and birthday that confirms the player as a 2006.

I realize there are PDFs of one record (no originals) that tell another story. But which would you believe?

Aka: BT, Aka: Surf legal counsel, Aka: cocos dad,
Aka: Thunderbolt.
I understand why you are defending this issue, you are in charge of all affiliates for Surf and AS is an affiliate. This debacle happened on your watch. What I don't understand is why you are sharing private inside information on a public forum? Don't you have anything better to do?

 

[Daniel Miller]

Let's hit them where it hurst by boycotting their tournaments and find an alternative to Cal South.

I doubt that boycotting will work, and there is no stong alternative to Calsouth, anyway.

Calsouth doesn't care if it's right or wrong. It only has one PAD officer. There is no accountability. It could fit all the people who would decide whether or not to investigate into the space under your sink.

Calsouth's ineptitude in this case has done a great disservice to the local soccer community.

In any event, Calsouth is not going to answer to anybody here except, maybe, the teams that did not advance as a result of Surf's questionable activities. So, if you are Galaxy, Legends or San Diego Surf, then you might get someone to speak to you. Otherwise, expect to be stonewalled.

 

[softwaretest]

In my brief tenure as manager of various teams, I have had to carry around birth certificates from half a dozen countries. I never saw one where there was any doubt about the date of birth on them. If, as some have suggested, it was a Mexican birth certificate, even I with my limited Spanish training could read everything on the ones I saw.

Since you seem to be an experienced team manager lets assume hypothetically speaking you are the team manager for a 2005 team. After the birth year changes were announced your coach on this hypothetical team decided to change the team to a 2006 team.

Now filling in some hypothetical gaps lets assume one or more of your hypothetical parents on this hypothetical team came to you at registration time for this hypothetical 2006 team and said: "Hey we just noticed after 4 hypothetical years that our hypothetical daughter was actually born in 2006 so we have updated her hypothetical birth certificate.

I have two questions:

1. How likely would it be that without notifying the coach, the registrar and/or Cal South of this "innocent" mistake you would simply submit the player as a new player with a slightly altered last name and subsequently swap out the hypothetical birth certificate in your log book?

2. What do you think the odds are that your hypothetical coach decided to move his hypothetical team to a younger age group without reviewing the birth dates on his current hypothetical roster?

I'd love for this all to go away. I actually like the people involved, but the fact that they sent an attorney in who was able to get another team removed while seemingly not being able to answer some of these basic issues is truly stunning. I honestly could care less about the results of these U11 soccer games, but I do care that the adults involved demonstrate some integrity.

I'm well aware of many more things with this that others are not speaking about publically, but it's time for the adults involved to show some integrity. Before posting anything else calling into question why parents are angry perhaps Thunderbolt or someone with knowledge of what went on can answer some of these basic questions. Perhaps I have this all wrong. I would love nothing more than to find out that this is some sort of error, because as I said I like the people involved, but I won't continue to defend them when so much smoke is in the air and they are not offering any explanations!

 

[espola]

Since you seem to be an experienced team manager lets assume hypothetically speaking you are the team manager for a 2005 team. After the birth year changes were announced your coach on this hypothetical team decided to change the team to a 2006 team.

Now filling in some hypothetical gaps lets assume one or more of your hypothetical parents on this hypothetical team came to you at registration time for this hypothetical 2006 team and said: "Hey we just noticed after 4 hypothetical years that our hypothetical daughter was actually born in 2006 so we have updated her hypothetical birth certificate.

I have two questions:

1. How likely would it be that without notifying the coach, the registrar and/or Cal South of this "innocent" mistake you would simply submit the player as a new player with a slightly altered last name and subsequently swap out the hypothetical birth certificate in your log book?

2. What do you think the odds are that your hypothetical coach decided to move his hypothetical team to a younger age group without reviewing the birth dates on his current hypothetical roster?

I'd love for this all to go away. I actually like the people involved, but the fact that they sent an attorney in who was able to get another team removed while seemingly not being able to answer some of these basic issues is truly stunning. I honestly could care less about the results of these U11 soccer games, but I do care that the adults involved demonstrate some integrity.

I'm well aware of many more things with this that others are not speaking about publically, but it's time for the adults involved to show some integrity. Before posting anything else calling into question why parents are angry perhaps Thunderbolt or someone with knowledge of what went on can answer some of these basic questions. Perhaps I have this all wrong. I would love nothing more than to find out that this is some sort of error, because as I said I like the people involved, but I won't continue to defend them when so much smoke is in the air and they are not offering any explanations!

For a time in my soccer club days, I was on the Board of Directors as the elected Vice President (nobody else ran) and then appointed by the BOD as VP-Competitive after the Board dismissed the previous one (and he was and still is a good friend of mine, so that was sticky for a while). During that time we only had a few BC issue - in one case a player whose father wrote down the wrong date on his registration form. The Registrar caught it, though, and the kid in question was elevated to the team a year older.

 

[Chicharito]

If any of you really are so concerned about the truth then you should contact Anaheim Surf. I am sure they will be happy to meet with you. None of you have the balls to do that because again refer to number 3 above and it's easier for you to hide behind your computers.

Why call Surf when the information can be read here?

Dear Anaheim Surf Parents,

I’d like to reach out to all club members to personally congratulate our Girls 2006 team coached by Brent Whitfield on their State Cup Presidents Championship this past weekend, and also address the controversy that unfortunately was attached to their tournament wins.

6 days before the team was due to play in the semifinals of State Cup, Cal South Protest, Appeals and Disciplinary (PAD) informed us that a team had filed a complaint alleging that one of the players on our team was an overaged player and had played during the 2016-17 regular season and in the tournament. Cal South PAD requested additional documentation, which our registrar immediately provided in the form of a copy of the player’s original birth certificate that we felt proved that our player was indeed playing in the correct age group.

Because of a conflicting document in an old record found in the Cal South system, that was uploaded prior to this player joining Anaheim Surf, a ruling was made to disqualify our team from State Cup. We were unaware of the documentation until this past week. On Thursday, two days before the semifinal game, after learning of the disqualification from an update of the State Cup results page, we immediately appealed the Cal South PAD findings to the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Our appeal was granted and was heard by the SCAC on Friday.

We provided, and Cal South SCAC reviewed the following documentation: 1) An original birth certificate, 2) An alternate form of picture ID, and 3) Enrollment records sent directly from the player’s school that all confirmed the player’s 2006 birthday. After the SCAC reviewed the documentation they concluded that there was no violation of Cal South Rule 9.4 and verified the age correctly of the player as a 2006 birth year, thus overturning the decision to disqualify our team from State Cup. The findings from SCAC are as follows:

Subject: SCAC Appeal Decision: ANAHEIM SURF 2006 - WHITFIELD
The determination to overturn the decision to disqualify Anaheim Surf 2006- Whitfield, team 0365-01CG06-1036, from the Cal South State Cup competition was a result of reviewing all documentation provided and interviewing multiple individuals by the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Among the documents provided was the original birth certificate and school records. The SCAC has determined that the Cal South State Cup Rule 9.4 was not violated as the determination letter from Craig Mues stated.

We perform our due diligence to the best of our ability every year when registering new and returning players in our club. Despite the clear evidence to the contrary, some in the soccer community continue to accuse our club of cheating by rostering an overage player. Let me emphatically state: we have only ever seen evidence that the player is correctly rostered and we believe the overwhelming evidence bears this out. I established this club 19 years ago and strive every day to operate in an ethical manner. Cheating to gain an advantage is something we have never done, and will never do.

If you’d like to talk to me in person or via phone about this matter, don’t hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,
Eddie Carrillo
Anaheim Surf Club Director
Chapman University Director of Soccer Men’s Head Coach

 

[tabletop]

Why call Surf when the information can be read here?

Dear Anaheim Surf Parents,

I’d like to reach out to all club members to personally congratulate our Girls 2006 team coached by Brent Whitfield on their State Cup Presidents Championship this past weekend, and also address the controversy that unfortunately was attached to their tournament wins.

6 days before the team was due to play in the semifinals of State Cup, Cal South Protest, Appeals and Disciplinary (PAD) informed us that a team had filed a complaint alleging that one of the players on our team was an overaged player and had played during the 2016-17 regular season and in the tournament. Cal South PAD requested additional documentation, which our registrar immediately provided in the form of a copy of the player’s original birth certificate that we felt proved that our player was indeed playing in the correct age group.

Because of a conflicting document in an old record found in the Cal South system, that was uploaded prior to this player joining Anaheim Surf, a ruling was made to disqualify our team from State Cup. We were unaware of the documentation until this past week. On Thursday, two days before the semifinal game, after learning of the disqualification from an update of the State Cup results page, we immediately appealed the Cal South PAD findings to the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Our appeal was granted and was heard by the SCAC on Friday.

We provided, and Cal South SCAC reviewed the following documentation: 1) An original birth certificate, 2) An alternate form of picture ID, and 3) Enrollment records sent directly from the player’s school that all confirmed the player’s 2006 birthday. After the SCAC reviewed the documentation they concluded that there was no violation of Cal South Rule 9.4 and verified the age correctly of the player as a 2006 birth year, thus overturning the decision to disqualify our team from State Cup. The findings from SCAC are as follows:

Subject: SCAC Appeal Decision: ANAHEIM SURF 2006 - WHITFIELD
The determination to overturn the decision to disqualify Anaheim Surf 2006- Whitfield, team 0365-01CG06-1036, from the Cal South State Cup competition was a result of reviewing all documentation provided and interviewing multiple individuals by the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Among the documents provided was the original birth certificate and school records. The SCAC has determined that the Cal South State Cup Rule 9.4 was not violated as the determination letter from Craig Mues stated.

We perform our due diligence to the best of our ability every year when registering new and returning players in our club. Despite the clear evidence to the contrary, some in the soccer community continue to accuse our club of cheating by rostering an overage player. Let me emphatically state: we have only ever seen evidence that the player is correctly rostered and we believe the overwhelming evidence bears this out. I established this club 19 years ago and strive every day to operate in an ethical manner. Cheating to gain an advantage is something we have never done, and will never do.

If you’d like to talk to me in person or via phone about this matter, don’t hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,
Eddie Carrillo
Anaheim Surf Club Director
Chapman University Director of Soccer Men’s Head Coach

Sorry AS, nobody is buying it. AS registered her as a new player to get her a new ID # and from what was written earlier, she all of a sudden had a new hyphenated last name at the exact same time that she came over with her teammates from Arsenal. Did any of her Arsenal teammates get a new ID #? No. Did the girls who came over from Legends get a new ID#? No. Everybody knew she had previously played for Arsenal. The AS DOC knew she previously had played for Arsenal, so there was no reason to not use her existing Cal South ID #, other than to deceive and to create plausible deniability. End of story.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Why call Surf when the information can be read here?

Dear Anaheim Surf Parents,

I’d like to reach out to all club members to personally congratulate our Girls 2006 team coached by Brent Whitfield on their State Cup Presidents Championship this past weekend, and also address the controversy that unfortunately was attached to their tournament wins.

6 days before the team was due to play in the semifinals of State Cup, Cal South Protest, Appeals and Disciplinary (PAD) informed us that a team had filed a complaint alleging that one of the players on our team was an overaged player and had played during the 2016-17 regular season and in the tournament. Cal South PAD requested additional documentation, which our registrar immediately provided in the form of a copy of the player’s original birth certificate that we felt proved that our player was indeed playing in the correct age group.

Because of a conflicting document in an old record found in the Cal South system, that was uploaded prior to this player joining Anaheim Surf, a ruling was made to disqualify our team from State Cup. We were unaware of the documentation until this past week. On Thursday, two days before the semifinal game, after learning of the disqualification from an update of the State Cup results page, we immediately appealed the Cal South PAD findings to the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Our appeal was granted and was heard by the SCAC on Friday.

We provided, and Cal South SCAC reviewed the following documentation: 1) An original birth certificate, 2) An alternate form of picture ID, and 3) Enrollment records sent directly from the player’s school that all confirmed the player’s 2006 birthday. After the SCAC reviewed the documentation they concluded that there was no violation of Cal South Rule 9.4 and verified the age correctly of the player as a 2006 birth year, thus overturning the decision to disqualify our team from State Cup. The findings from SCAC are as follows:

Subject: SCAC Appeal Decision: ANAHEIM SURF 2006 - WHITFIELD
The determination to overturn the decision to disqualify Anaheim Surf 2006- Whitfield, team 0365-01CG06-1036, from the Cal South State Cup competition was a result of reviewing all documentation provided and interviewing multiple individuals by the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Among the documents provided was the original birth certificate and school records. The SCAC has determined that the Cal South State Cup Rule 9.4 was not violated as the determination letter from Craig Mues stated.

We perform our due diligence to the best of our ability every year when registering new and returning players in our club. Despite the clear evidence to the contrary, some in the soccer community continue to accuse our club of cheating by rostering an overage player. Let me emphatically state: we have only ever seen evidence that the player is correctly rostered and we believe the overwhelming evidence bears this out. I established this club 19 years ago and strive every day to operate in an ethical manner. Cheating to gain an advantage is something we have never done, and will never do.

If you’d like to talk to me in person or via phone about this matter, don’t hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,
Eddie Carrillo
Anaheim Surf Club Director
Chapman University Director of Soccer Men’s Head Coach

Interesting it still doesn't say why the girl was not allowed to play

 

[Alphaomega]

Why call Surf when the information can be read here?

Dear Anaheim Surf Parents,

I’d like to reach out to all club members to personally congratulate our Girls 2006 team coached by Brent Whitfield on their State Cup Presidents Championship this past weekend, and also address the controversy that unfortunately was attached to their tournament wins.

6 days before the team was due to play in the semifinals of State Cup, Cal South Protest, Appeals and Disciplinary (PAD) informed us that a team had filed a complaint alleging that one of the players on our team was an overaged player and had played during the 2016-17 regular season and in the tournament. Cal South PAD requested additional documentation, which our registrar immediately provided in the form of a copy of the player’s original birth certificate that we felt proved that our player was indeed playing in the correct age group.

Because of a conflicting document in an old record found in the Cal South system, that was uploaded prior to this player joining Anaheim Surf, a ruling was made to disqualify our team from State Cup. We were unaware of the documentation until this past week. On Thursday, two days before the semifinal game, after learning of the disqualification from an update of the State Cup results page, we immediately appealed the Cal South PAD findings to the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Our appeal was granted and was heard by the SCAC on Friday.

We provided, and Cal South SCAC reviewed the following documentation: 1) An original birth certificate, 2) An alternate form of picture ID, and 3) Enrollment records sent directly from the player’s school that all confirmed the player’s 2006 birthday. After the SCAC reviewed the documentation they concluded that there was no violation of Cal South Rule 9.4 and verified the age correctly of the player as a 2006 birth year, thus overturning the decision to disqualify our team from State Cup. The findings from SCAC are as follows:

Subject: SCAC Appeal Decision: ANAHEIM SURF 2006 - WHITFIELD
The determination to overturn the decision to disqualify Anaheim Surf 2006- Whitfield, team 0365-01CG06-1036, from the Cal South State Cup competition was a result of reviewing all documentation provided and interviewing multiple individuals by the State Cup Appeals Committee (SCAC). Among the documents provided was the original birth certificate and school records. The SCAC has determined that the Cal South State Cup Rule 9.4 was not violated as the determination letter from Craig Mues stated.

We perform our due diligence to the best of our ability every year when registering new and returning players in our club. Despite the clear evidence to the contrary, some in the soccer community continue to accuse our club of cheating by rostering an overage player. Let me emphatically state: we have only ever seen evidence that the player is correctly rostered and we believe the overwhelming evidence bears this out. I established this club 19 years ago and strive every day to operate in an ethical manner. Cheating to gain an advantage is something we have never done, and will never do.

If you’d like to talk to me in person or via phone about this matter, don’t hesitate to reach out.

Sincerely,
Eddie Carrillo
Anaheim Surf Club Director
Chapman University Director of Soccer Men’s Head Coach

Whatever helps you sleep at night......

 

[Daniel Miller]

If you want to boycott somebody in a way that works, then boycott Anaheim Surf's tournaments. I don't coach, but I still get plenty of emails from Eddie Carillo begging me to bring teams. Turn your back on this ethically questionable club and don't believe anything EC tells you.

 

[Kicknit22]

LOL...I sense a riot starting...boycotts, protests, I love it...Go for it....all of you people are all talk...all over a soccer game. You want Answers? You want the truth? Call CalSouth or go stand in their lobby until they tell you....Throw the same tantrums you are throwing on this site. The problem is you all wont believe anything that is told to you. All of you Michael Moores want some story of conspiracy because in your mind that is way easier to believe. You also wont go to CalSouth either because that takes work that none of you really want to do to find the truth...Left Wing Liberal mentality..."We are owed answers! We are owed everything! We are entitled"....Half of you are probably Millennials.
I shouldn't be surprised.

I could send you pictures of the documents...video of the birth
Tell you all the whys and hows
But it wont matter....you wont believe what is told to you.

The girl was born in 2006. period. it should be end of story but again, you wont believe it.

Why didn't the girl play. Ask CalSouth. It doesn't matter what I tell you.
The team didn't need her anyway to beat two teams that were already better than Legends, Galaxy, and everyone else. Sorry but your teams Lost. I know that is hard for some of you to deal with but just get over it and move on.

Stop with the "what are you teaching your girls garbage". No one in the club is promoting lying or cheating.

I can guarantee you all that if ANY of the Board members, Registrar, or the DOC believed that this girl was an overage player the club would gladly give back the trophy.

BTW...no one is struggling with guilt because the truth sets you free but like with anything else in life, you must have some faith.

Thanks for the comic relief MrJackten.

 

[ALT_Dad]

this still does not explain why the girl was not allowed to play after the ruling. If she and the team were fully exhonerated, why wouldn't Cal South or AS allow her to play with her team. Perhaps a straight answer to this question will help quiet the "some in the soccer community."

Was it cal south that held her out? If so, there must have been continued doubt by cal south. If so, AS shouldn't have been reinstated.

Was it AS holding her out? If so, were they aftraid that the truth would finally come out and her continued participation would jeopardize the final two games...it certainly wouldn't be that they were thinking of her want to participate with her teammates. as the team's parents even mentioned, she was expendable and they won without her. Would the same have happened if the player in question was their Vegas player or the new guest star players from strikers?