War in Ukraine soon?

I was watching a report on Channel 4 out of france. The oligarchs are upset at Putin. It's unclear how much power they have to force his hand but if anyone does, they do. Nothing hurts more than making rich people poorer and on top of that taking away their ability to vacation in the Med away from the Russian winter. Plus the EU is now talking about direct seizure of their property.

One possible "compromise" they are floating is the partition of the Ukraine since the Russian military isn't looking forward to a prolonged occupation of the hostile western portion of the country. I doubt that will fly with the Ukrainians.
 
blam said:
RT and all Russian news censored in EU. Apparently, freedom of the press only allowed if it is benign. In times where it actually mattered, it gets censored and banned just like in so called authoritative regimes.

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The difference is that I can say what I like, but you can't.

For example, I can tell you that Trump is an unstable man who is too vain to make use of his own intelligence reports. Or that Biden is a senile old man who panders to the progressive fringe.

You, on the other hand, can't tell me that President Pooh Bear is a fake nationalist who cares more about enriching the princelings than his own people.
 
dad4 said:
You, on the other hand, can't tell me that President Pooh Bear is a fake nationalist who cares more about enriching the princelings than his own people.
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This is an interesting theory. If true, and you believe the Putin is crazy and wants to build the Russian empire takes, it means Xi and Putin are motivated by opposite motivations.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yeah, no, but nice try though!
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As a patriotic American, it is your responsibility to get the news from both sides. Exercising self censorship and only getting news from one side, the CNN, the French news, the Fox is not going to help. Do it to honor those who fought for your freedom to get the news from both sides. In some countries like the EU, the story from the other side is censored.


Ukraine under fire on Tubi TV.

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Ukraine on Fire (2014)

Oliver Stone exposes America’s 2014 role in ousting Ukraine’s democratically elected president and replacing him with a right-wing ultra-nationalist.
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Brav520 said:
This is a good explanation of what is going on by someone in a very high level position in the Biden administration

“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine, so basically that’s wrong...”
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totally fit the steretotype of the lazy American who just needs the news simplified down to simple terms in terms of good guy vs bad guy. The mainstream media did it job on you I guess. Please be patriotic and get the news from the other side. Check out what Norm Chomsky had to say on this issue. He is one who had spent decades studying foreign policy.
 
blam said:
totally fit the steretotype of the lazy American who just needs the news simplified down to simple terms in terms of good guy vs bad guy. The mainstream media did it job on you I guess. Please be patriotic and get the news from the other side. Check out what Norm Chomsky had to say on this issue. He is one who had spent decades studying foreign policy.
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nope, this explanation from the VP is perfect for me
 
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Hüsker Dü said:
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When Politics and War Interfere

The first thing I want to say here is that the following is commentary. This represents my (Andy’s) thoughts and no one else’s. It doesn’t even represent my opinion because, well,…
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"The developments of the past few decades has erased a lot of the optimism I’d had back in the Yeltsin days, "

I am always confused by this sentiment. Is Yeltsin such a great leader for Russia? Would you want him to be President of the USA? I would want him to be president of my enemy, but not my own president. But if he is really a great leader, please fill me in. I must be missing something.
 
Brav520 said:
nope, this explanation from the VP is perfect for me
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Your neighbour decides to point a gun through your bedroom window. The gun is all on his property and he promises he is not going to shoot. He will only shoot if you misbehave but if you do not misbehave, the gun will never be used. It is for peace. Is it ok for him to do that?

If Cuba were to join into a military aliance with Russia and position missiles at the USA, is that ok?

This is the other side of the coin. NATO is continually expanding and is now on the eve of expanding into Ukraine.





I will spare reitireating the other side of the coin..well maybe i will to be fair. The other side is Russia is a big nation, and it invades a smaller nation. The smaller nation is not allowed sovereignty in deciding its own fate(joining NATO). Then there is alllegation that this is nothing but a land grab by Putin.
 
blam said:
"The developments of the past few decades has erased a lot of the optimism I’d had back in the Yeltsin days, "

I am always confused by this sentiment. Is Yeltsin such a great leader for Russia? Would you want him to be President of the USA? I would want him to be president of my enemy, but not my own president. But if he is really a great leader, please fill me in. I must be missing something.
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He was transitioning towards capitalism for Russia and freedom for the Russian people.
It’s in all the history books . . .
 
blam said:
"The developments of the past few decades has erased a lot of the optimism I’d had back in the Yeltsin days, "

I am always confused by this sentiment. Is Yeltsin such a great leader for Russia? Would you want him to be President of the USA? I would want him to be president of my enemy, but not my own president. But if he is really a great leader, please fill me in. I must be missing something.
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Why does everything have to be black and white with people. He was great: he stood up to the Soviet coup, he transitioned away from the Soviet Union and adopted a democratic constitution, he dismantled the communist party, he transitioned to capitalism. He was awful: he was a drunkard and a fool (particularly at the end), he handled the transition to capitalism horribly (allowing basically the looting of the assets by a handful of oligarchs), he allowed corruption to flourish, he weakened the Russian military and allowed for the spread of separatism and terrorism, and he laid the foundations for the end of democracy in russia by bringing people like Putin into the fold. It's nuanced.
 
Grace T. said:
Why does everything have to be black and white with people. He was great: he stood up to the Soviet coup, he transitioned away from the Soviet Union and adopted a democratic constitution, he dismantled the communist party, he transitioned to capitalism. He was awful: he was a drunkard and a fool (particularly at the end), he handled the transition to capitalism horribly (allowing basically the looting of the assets by a handful of oligarchs), he allowed corruption to flourish, he weakened the Russian military and allowed for the spread of separatism and terrorism, and he laid the foundations for the end of democracy in russia by bringing people like Putin into the fold. It's nuanced.
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Also, one could add that since the Tsar there has been exactly one Russian leader who was not an autocrat, i.e. Yeltsin. So, while he had his flaws and made mistakes, he's better than all the rest with ease. (Including the Tsar's, he the only non-autocrat in 500 years - that's crazy really).

So yeah, people put him up there as a "great" leader, because relative to all the others, he was certainly great (& brave, although maybe the vodka helped with that).
 
whatithink said:
Also, one could add that since the Tsar there has been exactly one Russian leader who was not an autocrat, i.e. Yeltsin. So, while he had his flaws and made mistakes, he's better than all the rest with ease. (Including the Tsar's, he the only non-autocrat in 500 years - that's crazy really).

So yeah, people put him up there as a "great" leader, because relative to all the others, he was certainly great (& brave, although maybe the vodka helped with that).
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Not a Kerensky fan I see.

In other news, Ukraine is saying more than 5,300 Russians have been killed in the invasion. Western intelligence thinks that number is too high and probably wraps in the wounded, but they are guessing 2,000 killed which puts it roughly the same losses as the US with 20 years fighting in Afghanistan and that's before the so-called "final offensives" on Kiev and Kharkiv. There are reports that news of the deaths are beginning to trickle into Russian villages.
 
blam said:
Your neighbour decides to point a gun through your bedroom window. The gun is all on his property and he promises he is not going to shoot. He will only shoot if you misbehave but if you do not misbehave, the gun will never be used. It is for peace. Is it ok for him to do that?

If Cuba were to join into a military aliance with Russia and position missiles at the USA, is that ok?

This is the other side of the coin. NATO is continually expanding and is now on the eve of expanding into Ukraine.





I will spare reitireating the other side of the coin..well maybe i will to be fair. The other side is Russia is a big nation, and it invades a smaller nation. The smaller nation is not allowed sovereignty in deciding its own fate(joining NATO). Then there is alllegation that this is nothing but a land grab by Putin.
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Dont forget Human Trafficking and all the deals the Senator's Sons got in the Ukraine. Soros lives their as well. I read some insane stuff I dont put on here because no one would believe me. Club 33 is real!!!
 
whatithink said:
Also, one could add that since the Tsar there has been exactly one Russian leader who was not an autocrat, i.e. Yeltsin. So, while he had his flaws and made mistakes, he's better than all the rest with ease. (Including the Tsar's, he the only non-autocrat in 500 years - that's crazy really).

So yeah, people put him up there as a "great" leader, because relative to all the others, he was certainly great (& brave, although maybe the vodka helped with that).
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Missing the “days of” and saying someone was a great leader are different things, but I digress.
 
I thought this was a very powerful interview (and yes I know the issues with a no fly zone and that was only a small part of the interview).

www.today.com

Ukrainian official calls for no-fly zone: We need the protection of the sky

Oleksandra Ustinova, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, joins TODAY with Savannah Guthrie to talk about her disappointment with President Biden’s State of the Union address saying, “Today the whole world is watching Ukrainians being executed,” adding "we are grateful for help, but we need...
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watfly said:
I thought this was a very powerful interview (and yes I know the issues with a no fly zone and that was only a small part of the interview).

www.today.com

Ukrainian official calls for no-fly zone: We need the protection of the sky

Oleksandra Ustinova, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament, joins TODAY with Savannah Guthrie to talk about her disappointment with President Biden’s State of the Union address saying, “Today the whole world is watching Ukrainians being executed,” adding "we are grateful for help, but we need...
www.today.com www.today.com
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So you like her support a full fledged war between super powers? Zelensky has said he doesn’t want to drag the world into it. He says send weapons and ammo not soldiers.
Are you one of those that have called Liz Cheney a warmonger in your reasoning for dismissing her then now want to call Biden wuss for not carpet bombing Russia and Russians?
 
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