War in Ukraine soon?

Brav520 said:
This would not be a smart move by Putin, let’s hope this is not true

www.nbcnews.com

U.S. officials fear Putin's government may arrest Americans in Russia

National security officials have discussed concerns that Americans doing business in Russia — such as employees of U.S. companies — will be targeted if they comply with sanctions.
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The US had done a similar thing and requested Canada to arrest a Huawei executive on a completely fabricated lie. So it would not be surprising if this happens.
 
Grace T. said:
yawn....you've been reduced to the language police

My first experience with Finland was crossing the border by train from now sk Petersburg to Helsinki and arriving early afternoon after 2 months in the Soviet Union. We all rushed over to the pizza hut (which when i tell the kids the story they always say why....how disgusting...sorry after 2 months of that food that pizza was the best ever) and scrapet together what cash we gad left. The Finnish waitress laughed as we all tore into the pizza and looked so haggard (all of us had come down with a bad flu while traveling in Russia, some of us had temporarily landed in jail for joining in the protests, and two of us had landed in Soviet hospitals). When we told her where we had been she laughed and wondered why we crazies would ever do such a thing and hoped we had learned our lessons. She felt sorry for us that we could afford such few pizzas for the group (several of our motley crew having been hoodwinked out of their cash by scammers) that she bought us an extra one so we could have a second slice each.
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Thanks for sharing. That is intense.
 
One area which I have not heard much about from the mainstream media is the rise of the far right in Ukraine. There is a documentary called Ukraine on Fire on tubi. Check it out.
 
blam said:
The US had done a similar thing and requested Canada to arrest a Huawei executive on a completely fabricated lie. So it would not be surprising if this happens.
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im worried about the escalation

I don’t want 2 nuclear powers going to War
 
Brav520 said:
im worried about the escalation

I don’t want 2 nuclear powers going to War
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It will go down to the wire and will get super scary. All this means is we will ALL shit our pants bro. It has to be this way because men like to fight for power and will do whatever they can to keep it, especially steal, cheat, spy and lie on their competitor. They will use little kids as pawns as well. Nasty men!!!!
 
Brav520 said:
im worried about the escalation

I don’t want 2 nuclear powers going to War
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The more likely escalation is there's an incident in the transfer of weapons from a NATO ally that kills NATO military personnel or worse civilians. Article five is triggered and the US has no choice but to respond. It's why it looks like the offer to send old Soviet airplanes to Ukraine is scrapped...the nations couldn't figure out a way to get the planes there through neutral territory (they were working on a convoluted scheme of the Balkans to Israel to Georgia), the Ukrainians offered to fly them out of European airbases but the European nations (despite some pressure from the EU) said no one by one until Poland was the last and forced to say no.

The other possible escalation is Russian warships on the B&D straits and turkey coming into conflict there which will also trigger article five despite turkey having poor relations right now with the US, EU, and Russia.
 
Brav520 said:
This is a good explanation of what is going on by someone in a very high level position in the Biden administration

“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine, so basically that’s wrong...”
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Must have been trying to explain it to an oan reporter, or some other bubble troll from a likeminded “news” agency.
 
I was watching a report on Channel 4 out of france. The oligarchs are upset at Putin. It's unclear how much power they have to force his hand but if anyone does, they do. Nothing hurts more than making rich people poorer and on top of that taking away their ability to vacation in the Med away from the Russian winter. Plus the EU is now talking about direct seizure of their property.

One possible "compromise" they are floating is the partition of the Ukraine since the Russian military isn't looking forward to a prolonged occupation of the hostile western portion of the country. I doubt that will fly with the Ukrainians.
 
blam said:
RT and all Russian news censored in EU. Apparently, freedom of the press only allowed if it is benign. In times where it actually mattered, it gets censored and banned just like in so called authoritative regimes.

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The difference is that I can say what I like, but you can't.

For example, I can tell you that Trump is an unstable man who is too vain to make use of his own intelligence reports. Or that Biden is a senile old man who panders to the progressive fringe.

You, on the other hand, can't tell me that President Pooh Bear is a fake nationalist who cares more about enriching the princelings than his own people.
 
dad4 said:
You, on the other hand, can't tell me that President Pooh Bear is a fake nationalist who cares more about enriching the princelings than his own people.
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This is an interesting theory. If true, and you believe the Putin is crazy and wants to build the Russian empire takes, it means Xi and Putin are motivated by opposite motivations.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yeah, no, but nice try though!
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As a patriotic American, it is your responsibility to get the news from both sides. Exercising self censorship and only getting news from one side, the CNN, the French news, the Fox is not going to help. Do it to honor those who fought for your freedom to get the news from both sides. In some countries like the EU, the story from the other side is censored.


Ukraine under fire on Tubi TV.

tubitv.com

Ukraine on Fire (2014)

Oliver Stone exposes America’s 2014 role in ousting Ukraine’s democratically elected president and replacing him with a right-wing ultra-nationalist.
tubitv.com tubitv.com
 
Brav520 said:
This is a good explanation of what is going on by someone in a very high level position in the Biden administration

“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine, so basically that’s wrong...”
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totally fit the steretotype of the lazy American who just needs the news simplified down to simple terms in terms of good guy vs bad guy. The mainstream media did it job on you I guess. Please be patriotic and get the news from the other side. Check out what Norm Chomsky had to say on this issue. He is one who had spent decades studying foreign policy.
 
blam said:
totally fit the steretotype of the lazy American who just needs the news simplified down to simple terms in terms of good guy vs bad guy. The mainstream media did it job on you I guess. Please be patriotic and get the news from the other side. Check out what Norm Chomsky had to say on this issue. He is one who had spent decades studying foreign policy.
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nope, this explanation from the VP is perfect for me
 
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Hüsker Dü said:
tachiai.org

When Politics and War Interfere

The first thing I want to say here is that the following is commentary. This represents my (Andy’s) thoughts and no one else’s. It doesn’t even represent my opinion because, well,…
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"The developments of the past few decades has erased a lot of the optimism I’d had back in the Yeltsin days, "

I am always confused by this sentiment. Is Yeltsin such a great leader for Russia? Would you want him to be President of the USA? I would want him to be president of my enemy, but not my own president. But if he is really a great leader, please fill me in. I must be missing something.
 
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