War in Ukraine soon?
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The open question is whether the forced findlandization of Ukraine and granting the Russian speaking territories secession would have avoided this. One group argues no because Putin is a meglomaniac and this would have just appeased him (same as Hitler) and he would be demanding the Baltics next (thanks to our weakness) for which we would definitely have to fight. This group especially believes in spreading democracy around the world and that the Ukrainians have an inherent right to make their own decision to tilt west. The other group, the real politiks, say that Ukraine could either have been findlandized similar to Austria or Finland in the cold war therefore avoiding a great power contest for control of Ukraine...NATO would have left off NATO and EU membership, Russia would give up on creating a puppet state there.
Something or someone is in Ukraine. I know already but I wont share because you guys would laugh at me again. Keep playing Geo Politics Grace T. Have you ever studied The Looking Glass?
Won't laugh at you but please waive to me on your way up if the rapture happens crush.
Fox Headline: Russia is out of food and morale is at all time low. The Ghost of Kiev and the 17 year old girl sniper are now heros. Hillary say's Putin must be stopped at all cost. John Kerry says the same things and Mit is telling everyone he is smarter then Obama and if he were President, Putin would have never tried this move. Liz Cheney is ready to send our boys and girls over to Ukraine to fight Russia. Zelensky is holding the line until back up comes in a ditch. I have so much popcorn for tonight SOTU Speech.
I will reach out my hand to grab you Grace TWon't laugh at you but please waive to me on your way up if the rapture happens crush.
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GOLD
TBH, hindsight is easy, but context should always be accounted for. The 90s were all about "we'd won the cold war", people looking for the "peace dividend", the USSR breaking up, and the newly independent countries opening to the west (commercially) - not to mention the collapse of the iron curtain, Germany's focus on reunification, Balkan conflicts in the 90s, new countries in Eastern Europe. There was no play book. It wasn't just Russia; it was WAY more complicated than that.
Yeltsin was also the president and seen as friendly to the west (albeit also thought to be drunk a lot). Putin's ascendency was just before 9/11, and a pivot in the west towards the "war on terror" which became all consuming. Georgia in 2008 is about right to me given the wider context, and yes Romney was ridiculed for his viewpoint, which hasn't aged well for everyone who did that, but it wasn't mainstream thought.
There's also the premise that "we" could have done things differently, as if we could have controlled what happened in Russia. I think that's a bad premise. It's all water under the bridge in any case.
It's "finlandization" and "megalomaniac".
ok...you wanna brownie point or will a gold star suffice,?
The first time I thought you were just speed-typing, but now I realize you simply don't know.
The best moment of the Olympics for me was when Finland beat the Russians in the hockey final. I had business relationships with 2 different Finnish companies during my career. They hate the Russians the same way the Ukrainians will, forever.
All you do is hate. Go play war with your kids and not my kid.
Mitch McConnell: We need to give Ukrainians everything ((our kids blood Mitch?)) they need as rapidly as possible
This is a good explanation of what is going on by someone in a very high level position in the Biden administration
“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine, so basically that’s wrong...”
“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine, so basically that’s wrong...”
This would not be a smart move by Putin, let’s hope this is not true
www.nbcnews.com
U.S. officials fear Putin's government may arrest Americans in Russia
National security officials have discussed concerns that Americans doing business in Russia — such as employees of U.S. companies — will be targeted if they comply with sanctions.
www.nbcnews.com
It's going to get ugly because when two fight, no one is right. This has been going on since the days when Cain killed his bro Abel. We have been fighting ever since. It's a trip how fast we went from Covid to Ukraine. HRC got most of her back room deals from Ukraine. Hunter Biden did most of his business dealings over there and the "Big Guy" had his hands in lots of deals. We also have one Senator after another getting their kids and grand kids killer jobs over there in the Ukraine for just saying hi. Easy $1,000,000.This would not be a smart move by Putin, let’s hope this is not true
U.S. officials fear Putin's government may arrest Americans in Russia
National security officials have discussed concerns that Americans doing business in Russia — such as employees of U.S. companies — will be targeted if they comply with sanctions.
This would not be a smart move by Putin, let’s hope this is not true
U.S. officials fear Putin's government may arrest Americans in Russia
National security officials have discussed concerns that Americans doing business in Russia — such as employees of U.S. companies — will be targeted if they comply with sanctions.
I dunno. The US govt has already been urging Americans to leave. I know several law firms and corps that have told their western citizen employees to get out no later than the end of the week. Those business will be largely operate now by local staff, which will be put between a rock and a hard place.
Some serious political curve balls, right? This Putin guy and his people are very interesting group of folks. I have a very good friend whose parents are from Moscow and then my Kiev pal. They both love each other and are tripping out with Fox and CNN and all the division. No more Corona talk, how about that Grace T? Does that scratch your head just a little? Please answer me this Q. Why did HRC and the Bidens do all that back room deals in the Ukraine? Obama did a regime change 8 years ago, no?
yawn....you've been reduced to the language police
My first experience with Finland was crossing the border by train from now sk Petersburg to Helsinki and arriving early afternoon after 2 months in the Soviet Union. We all rushed over to the pizza hut (which when i tell the kids the story they always say why....how disgusting...sorry after 2 months of that food that pizza was the best ever) and scrapet together what cash we gad left. The Finnish waitress laughed as we all tore into the pizza and looked so haggard (all of us had come down with a bad flu while traveling in Russia, some of us had temporarily landed in jail for joining in the protests, and two of us had landed in Soviet hospitals). When we told her where we had been she laughed and wondered why we crazies would ever do such a thing and hoped we had learned our lessons. She felt sorry for us that we could afford such few pizzas for the group (several of our motley crew having been hoodwinked out of their cash by scammers) that she bought us an extra one so we could have a second slice each.