I admit that a certain percentage of selfish people will keep the virus alive by ignoring public heath recommendations. You will almost certainly be among them.
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Desert Hound
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But hey lets rush out and mandate boosters, etc now.
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.
The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, documented a "substantial fall" in the number of neutralizing antibodies among participants who received two doses of the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.
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An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.
The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, documented a "substantial fall" in the number of neutralizing antibodies among participants who received two doses of the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.
Two-dose vaccines don't induce enough antibodies against omicron: research
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.The research, which has not yet been...
Bruddah IZ
DA
Your Socialist Creed mindset that killed tens of millions.....way more than any virus.
Desert Hound
DA
Been watching any sports lately? Notice packed arenas/stadiums, etc?
More and more people are bowing to the reality of the virus and human nature (ie socialize).
It is precisely those reasons why lockdowns, masks, etc were never going to stop the virus.
And now they are pushing people to take boosters to try to limit delta and omicron despite the fact that vax was designed to combat alpha.
Hey...take last years flu shot to fight this new strain of flu is the thinking apparently.
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.
The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, documented a "substantial fall" in the number of neutralizing antibodies among participants who received two doses of the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.
Two-dose vaccines don't induce enough antibodies against omicron: research
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.The research, which has not yet been...
Yes. Both stadiums and hospitals are packed. It’s quite the coincidence. Maybe some day science will have an explanation for what’s happening.Been watching any sports lately? Notice packed arenas/stadiums, etc?
More and more people are bowing to the reality of the virus and human nature (ie socialize).
It is precisely those reasons why lockdowns, masks, etc were never going to stop the virus.
And now they are pushing people to take boosters to try to limit delta and omicron despite the fact that vax was designed to combat alpha.
Hey...take last years flu shot to fight this new strain of flu is the thinking apparently.
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.
The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, documented a "substantial fall" in the number of neutralizing antibodies among participants who received two doses of the AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.
Two-dose vaccines don't induce enough antibodies against omicron: research
An Oxford University study published on Monday found that two-dose COVID-19 vaccines generate a lower antibody response against the omicron strain, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated and previously infected.The research, which has not yet been...
news.yahoo.com
Desert Hound
DA
I will be amongst those living life.
Mask free, hanging out with people. Not worrying if the window is open or not, etc.
Living life as it should be. Not waiting for the latest pronouncement from above about what I am allowed to do, etc.
Try it some time.
what-happened
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I guess it just depends what part of sciency things "scientist" choose to explain to you.
Nope. Since football season has started with full attendance cases and hospitalizations have decreased significantly. Has to be bars and restaurants.
Desert Hound
DA
Or at a min this is what happened.
dad and others predicted a spike. Never happened. By their models it should have. And yet it didnt.
Most of it is pretty clear by now.
It’s a respiratory virus that spreads in indoor spaces and is dangerous mostly to older and overweight people. If infected and unvaccinated, odds of death are less than 1%, but greater than 0.1%. We have vaccines that reduce your odds of deaths by 90% or more, and reduce transmission by something less than that. Masks reduce transmission, but simply being outside is considerably more effective. Being indoors in crowded spaces increases transmission, especially if you are unmasked and talking or singing.
None of this is in serious dispute.
Which leaves people like hound just denying basic facts, like whether covid spreads well in bars. And you have multiple people arguing things like “well of course that would save lives. But we aren’t going to do it, and you can’t make us. So there.”
Desert Hound
DA
You misunderstand again.
You want to live life with conditions in place. What you advocate will not eliminate the virus.
We are going to have to live with it. Like we do with all the other diseases we have.
As such more and more people refuse to be limited by rules that really won't stop the virus.
We vote to live life without pointless restrictions.
Desert Hound
DA
The other thing NOT in serious dispute is that masks and social distancing, lockdowns, limiting biz will NOT eliminate the virus.
That is your key stumbling block. None of the above will eliminate it.
And yet that is what you want to do continue to do...advocate solutions that really dont work and cause more harm vs help.
If you woke up to reality you would understand that we are simply going to have to live with the virus and MOVE ON.
If you want to get vaxxed do so.
If you have already gotten the virus you are even better protected as the studies now seem to indicate.
Either way...your solution will not eliminate the virus. Why pursue actions that make little to no difference combating the virus, but do have rather negative consequences for society as a whole.
The rest of us look at the reality of the situation and say well those restrictions dont work, the vast vast majority have little to no risk...may as well move on and live life as normal.
And that is what you are seeing. Increasing numbers of people around the world saying enough is enough. And in the US it isn't just the red states saying that. Happening everywhere.
Desert Hound
DA
Case in point dad about moving on.
Then you also had yesterday CO tossing in the towel so to speak on the issue. I am sure you remember reading that.
You can look at the trends, or try to continue to swim upstream on this.
Then you also had yesterday CO tossing in the towel so to speak on the issue. I am sure you remember reading that.
You can look at the trends, or try to continue to swim upstream on this.
But they would if everyone would just comply!
It's pretty simple actually, to quote Colorado's governor:
"Those who get sick, it's almost entirely their own darn fault,"
You’re arguing that the mountain doesn’t exist because the trail goes downhill.
Look behind you. It’s still there.
Still clinging to COVID zero I see.
Hüsker Dü
DA
And there it is in plain words.
A critique of how health experts have handled the pandemic, published by center for infectious disease research and policy, university of minnesota. It actually reads like a critique of a lot of the things dad4 and the other covidians stand for. I especially like section 3 on fake consensus: the 80% establishment rules something must be true, 20% disagree, the vocal 2% minority are considered by the 80% cranks. Section 5, prioritizing health over truth, is another one of my favorites. It's a good critique, and some of us have been saying a lot of this here for a while now.
www.cidrap.umn.edu
COMMENTARY: 8 things US pandemic communicators still get wrong
Hüsker Dü
DA
Because of their own actions or the actions of someone they come in close contact with. So yes, if one takes all the precautions yet doesn’t screen all those they come in close contact with, and catches the virus from one of them, it is “their own darn fault.” And of course the vaccinated can pass the virus amongst themselves they just have a much better chance of milder symptoms and ultimate survival.