thirteenknots
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You are very dangerous in the State you're in.
Vaccine
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You are very dangerous in the State you're in.
thirteenknots
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You're Babbling.
thirteenknots
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Still Babbling.
thirteenknots
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thirteenknots
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Raid.....a household pest spray.
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
I’m sorry. I didn‘t give “Zuby” credit for his extensive virology research work.
If you quote some random musician as evidence on a scientific question, don’t complain when someone notices.
Reasonable question on the existence of measles variants. Almost all of the world’s measles cases happened well before we were able to detect variants. If there had been different variants, what makes you think you would know about it?
I also probably should have used "alleles" instead of "phenotypes", but the difference in meanings is subtle.
Desert Hound
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The problem with this should be obvious.
The shots you are talking about were developed over years before they went public. So they knew how many shots needed, how effective they were/are, etc.
With covid vaxxes, they still just don't know.
I’m sorry. I didn‘t give “Zuby” credit for his extensive virology research work.
If you quote some random musician as evidence on a scientific question, don’t complain when someone notices.
Reasonable question on the existence of measles variants. Almost all of the world’s measles cases happened well before we were able to detect variants. If there had been different variants, what makes you think you would know about it?
One feature of modern biology is how rapidly the techniques have advanced since the discovery of the structure of DNA and thus the mechanism of genetic coding. It still seems like science fiction to me that someone sitting in a lab at a computer console can type in or edit in from archived fragments the entire genetic code for a new organism, and the thing survives to reproduce on its own. It's like Dr. Frankenstein almost had it right when he assembled his creature from dead body parts, except that he wasn't thinking small enough.
We could always wait a few more years. How many would die in that time?
I’m sorry. I didn‘t give “Zuby” credit for his extensive virology research work.
If you quote some random musician as evidence on a scientific question, don’t complain when someone notices.
Reasonable question on the existence of measles variants. Almost all of the world’s measles cases happened well before we were able to detect variants. If there had been different variants, what makes you think you would know about it?
Your meritocratic contempt just drips from your mouth doesn't it? You're just po'd that he has your number. It especially hurts that a musician that you consider a nobody is calling out the eggheaded so-called experts. Yikes!
We've had 60 years of experience with the vaccine. How does that compare to the Rona? It's a fair point that measles (way back to Justinian) might have been more rapidly evolving then (when it was just beginning) but that just means it's hubris to think we could conquer a novel respiratory virus due to blind faith in some new technology. Measles is not novel.
Read the polio vaccine history. It’s not as clear cut as you think. There were plenty of bumps in the road, even after approval of the first doses.
Hey another really great point. "Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell I might even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved corp."
The issue, though, then is: a. you shouldn't mandate it until they sure (offer it up for those who want to take the risks....don't force it on them), and b. it looks like the initial doses may be enough to take the sting off severe disease due to novelity....requiring more shots on top of that is diminishing returns.
thirteenknots
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" Civilization is a condition that only works when the
preponderance of individuals agree to it.
Once that cracks no amount of law enforcement
can reverse the problem. "
preponderance of individuals agree to it.
Once that cracks no amount of law enforcement
can reverse the problem. "
Which historically led them to be more cautious with vaccines like the chicken pox and rotavirus vaccines. I myself was a victim of that delay, being hospitalized for chicken pox, a few years before the FDA approved it (even though it had been approved in Europe).
Tell you what. I’ll take my medical advice from the so-called experts. You take your medical advice from hip-hop musicians.
It works the other way, too. Who needs music from musicians? Let’s have music from the so-called experts:
Objection again. Misleading.
We've already established there are only certain experts you'll listen to.
The hip-hop musician also isn't giving medical advice. He's calling out your so-called experts for their failures.
Are you conceding that we can't stop the virus?
I recall saying early on that the virus will linger for awhile because it will always find the path of least resistance regardless of what we do, while you professed we could control the virus and reach zero covid with various policies. It's the false premise that we can eliminate the virus that causes the goalposts to move. Mitigate yes, eliminate no.
Queue its the unvaccinated, anti-maskers, and restriction ignoring population's fault that Covid hasn't been eliminated.
The hip hop musician was giving his expert opinion on the vaccine.
Such an opinion is about as useful as hip hop music produced by aerosol scientists.
Catchy, wasn’t it?
Biology plays some role, but politics clearly play a larger role. For example, the timing and parameters for Newsom's tier system. In particular, the cessation of that program. Also the goalposts being far different in each state.
It's also the scientific arrogance that we could eliminate the virus that has led to a lot of goal post moving.