Vaccine

[Bruddah IZ]

Yep, and its a good point. The pathways leading to the hyperinflammation/auto-immune dergulation in COViD19 are pretty clear. But what constitutes the tipping point beyond which the immune system doesn't turn itself off the way its supposed to, why we see the same type of deregulated circuitry working its way out in a different kind of way in MIS-C, those issues are not clear. It means that the most important aspects of "risk assessment" as we talk about it rests on a set of parameters that we do not really understand, and which could conceivably change. Those hypotheticals are powerful pyschological drivers.

So we mandate vaccinations when we don't understand or lack clarity?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I'm reading Isaacson's book The Code Breaker right now. It focuses on the career of Jennifer Doudna, but rolls in everything from Watson's The Double Helix onward.

Yeah but you're still just a poster boy for taking away peoples rights to due process and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[what-happened]

Yep, and its a good point. The pathways leading to the hyperinflammation/auto-immune dergulation in COViD19 are pretty clear. But what constitutes the tipping point beyond which the immune system doesn't turn itself off the way its supposed to, why we see the same type of deregulated circuitry working its way out in a different kind of way in MIS-C, those issues are not clear. It means that the most important aspects of "risk assessment" as we talk about it rests on a set of parameters that we do not really understand, and which could conceivably change. Those hypotheticals are powerful pyschological drivers.

Weird in so many ways. The virus's affinity for body fat is interesting and may explain a bunch of things.

 

[what-happened]

I thought you were referring to the pharma decision to move quicker on an omicron-specific booster than on a delta-specific booster. Reasonable because you need a new vaccine if there is a chance the old one will stop working.

I was not referring to closing borders in response to a variant. The question there is how much it slows things down, and I don’t have a good way to get my head round that.

Science side. I can’t tell you what the sales guys think of it. But they can sell something else. If covid doesn’t get to me, my blood pressure will, and there’s money in that, too.

I’m sure the finance guys have the worst angle on it. Ramping up for a disease that disappears is a sunk cost nightmare for them.

Sellers are waiting for the pills, vaccines don't have to be sold, they've been bougth and paid for using tax payer dollars.

We need a new vaccine period. Hoping they are working on that.. These don't work as advertised - shout out to @watfly for the contribution to my lexicon.

 

[crush]

The mask these days are starting to look creepy!!!

AWKWARD!!!😭🤣🤣🤣

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[crush]

Come on man, what is this that were all watching?

You're an idiot, Joe...🤣🤣🤣

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[Brav520]

Well to their credit, the Cuomo brothers at least know what day it is.

Joe Biden reads instruction off teleprompter:

"End of message."

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Fuck you espola. You are human garbage no better than Eotl.

Maybe you shouldn’t bring things in here you don’t want discussed?

 

[Hüsker Dü]

We’ll he did drag us back to summer 2020. And in the end everything that drove us to Utah (the school closures, beach closings, outdoor masks, suspending sports) turned out to be unscientific guess work JUST LIKE I WAS SAYING. It wasn’t exactly their most shinning moment and it drives them insane they were wrong about everything.

You always need to throw a not so humble brag in.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

What’s not normal in the whole history of western civilization is a bunch of aged members of a selfish generation going into a panic for their own lives and putting measures (most of which don’t work) on children to protect them. A side effect of this is that people are effectively agreeing to authoritarianism and vast restraints on their freedom for a disease where they ifr now stands at .1% and for measures the vast majority of which do nothing to actually stop the spread of disease

fify asshole.

Oh boo hoo.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

I’m not the fool here. You are and have been repeatedly shown to be. A fool who can’t follow along conversations, someone whose repeatedly behaved like an ass, and now an immoral piece of garbage. Whose been right? Me. Whose been wrong? You. Eat on that. Your only real contribution has been comedy and our laughing at you

More self declared victories, hilarious.

 

[Grace T.]

Oh boo hoo.

Hey another troll's come out. This ones the baby one.

You always need to throw a not so humble brag in.

I'll take the not so humble criticism, but it's justified. I was right. Your allies and you were wrong. How about being a little humble and admitting it? No...I thought so. I'll take being prideful and right, over arrogant, wrong and being an ass any day.

More self declared victories, hilarious.

The sad thing about you is even with all his limitations, he's still better at it than you.

Maybe you shouldn’t bring things in here you don’t want discussed?

Discussion is one thing. I resent the implication though I somehow did something wrong saving my kid's mental sanity and quite possibly his life. You have a problem with that, then fuck you too, ass.

 

[dad4]

Maybe you shouldn’t bring things in here you don’t want discussed?

It was a different topic: What can we do to help our kids through this. Most of us would make a similar exception for our own kids, if we had to.

The comment was out of bounds.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Why do you think DTaP has five shots? Those boosters fade, too. And, if 20% of the country refused to get their measles shots, you’d see new measles variants all the time, too.

I’m used to little kids whining about having to go in for their booster shots. It’s disgraceful that so many adults are doing the same.

This is the crybaby, entitled, Karen generation. This forum is full of them.

 

[Grace T.]

This is the crybaby, entitled, Karen generation. This forum is full of them.

I assume you are a boomer? Talk about an entitled, selfish generation, that torched everything from the yuppie 80s, the government budget, climate change, and now demanding kids carrying your weight to protect you from COVID. Far from the greatest generation, after this the boomers will be remembered as the worst, and the ones most responsible for torching the country.

 

[thirteenknots]

This is the crybaby, entitled, Karen generation. This forum is full of them.

You coming out as a female ?

You're in step with the current administration.

 

[thirteenknots]

I assume you are a boomer? Talk about an entitled, selfish generation, that torched everything from the yuppie 80s, the government budget, climate change, and now demanding kids carrying your weight to protect you from COVID. Far from the greatest generation, after this the boomers will be remembered as the worst, and the ones most responsible for torching the country.

Only his kind and the ones ten years older
represented by Adam Espola Schiff.

 

[espola]

I assume you are a boomer? Talk about an entitled, selfish generation, that torched everything from the yuppie 80s, the government budget, climate change, and now demanding kids carrying your weight to protect you from COVID. Far from the greatest generation, after this the boomers will be remembered as the worst, and the ones most responsible for torching the country.

Let it all out. It will just eat you up if you try to contain it.

 

[Grace T.]

Let it all out. It will just eat you up if you try to contain it.

Eats you up doesn't it that you can't hold a candle to the greatest generation and are holding little kids in front of you like a human shield,right? Proud of yourself? Yeah, thought so.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Bloomberg was onto something when he tried to ban sugary drinks in NYC. What vision!

And they whined about Mrs Obama’s healthy diet suggestions . . .