Vaccine

Hüsker Dü said:
So all or nothing or your not in and it seems you are confusing “science and medicine”with what those that hold the purse strings were willing to finance. In that case a line was drawn in the sand and more people died due to Covid or not having access to care due to financial restrictions.
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In most of the developed world, Science/Medicine and purse strings are kissing cousins. This relationship has led to the vaccine or nothing approach to disease management. We can throw in face masks as a garnish so others can say they play. In lesser developed countries, practitioners have had to practice medicine, look at the science and use what is available to care for their patients. Instead, many in the west have sent their patients home then to the hosptital to die. Interesting don't you think?
 
what-happened said:
In most of the developed world, Science/Medicine and purse strings are kissing cousins. This relationship has led to the vaccine or nothing approach to disease management. We can throw in face masks as a garnish so others can say they play. In lesser developed countries, practitioners have had to practice medicine, look at the science and use what is available to care for their patients. Instead, many in the west have sent their patients home then to the hosptital to die. Interesting don't you think?
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I guess the "vaccine or nothing approach to disease management" explains why we have a cancer vaccine and have not bothered with any other treatments. And a heart disease vaccine but no other treatment. A stroke vaccine but no other treatment. Alzheimer's vaccine but no other treatment. A vaccine for childbirth complications. I guess it also explains how people went from 100% certainty of death from HIV to being able to live a relatively normal life within a decade long before a vaccine existed. And with respect to Covid specifically, I guess it explains why we don't put people on vents or oxygen, or use monoclonal antibody treatments, or provide medication like Dexamethasone, Remdesivir or even the beloved horsepaste and hydroxy q that the whiny anti-vaxxers demand as they sit on the self-made death beds they they get to lie/die in.

Yes, we "in the west" just let patients go to the hospital to die while third world countries are doing such a better job. You are world class stupid. I mean, honestly, you are just making up shit and have no idea what you are talking about. Not surprising you are anti-vax.
 
GoldenGate said:
I guess the "vaccine or nothing approach to disease management" explains why we have a cancer vaccine and have not bothered with any other treatments. And a heart disease vaccine but no other treatment. A stroke vaccine but no other treatment. Alzheimer's vaccine but no other treatment. A vaccine for childbirth complications. I guess it also explains how people went from 100% certainty of death from HIV to being able to live a relatively normal life within a decade long before a vaccine existed. And with respect to Covid specifically, I guess it explains why we don't put people on vents or oxygen, or use monoclonal antibody treatments, or provide medication like Dexamethasone, Remdesivir or even the beloved horsepaste and hydroxy q that the whiny anti-vaxxers demand as they sit on the self-made death beds they they get to lie/die in.

Yes, we "in the west" just let patients go to the hospital to die while third world countries are doing such a better job. You are world class stupid. I mean, honestly, you are just making up shit and have no idea what you are talking about. Not surprising you are anti-vax.
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I love how tweedle dee gives your posts the thumbs up.

You must have hit your head this morning, we can prescribe somthing for that. You've done a good job of putting together sentences with words you've seen on reddit. I know you find it easy to ridicule others, which is very endearing, some would call it cute.

Congrats on distorting words again. Good choice of drugs, I dont' think you even graps what you typed. Please explain your rationale for tying together drugs and ventilation and how that is part of an early treatment protocol. I can't wait for your expert testimony - I'll make sure to pass it on.

How am I anti vax? I'm excited to get your take. Figurin I'm world class stupid, please tell me how you chose the drugs to use as an example of an early treatment regimen. What exactly is horsepaste? How is being ventilated considered an early treatment? Are you confused with the different methods of supplementing oxygen in a patient?

I'm pretty sure you are vaxxed and boosted, likely with moderna - it would explain a lot. Let's work on your temperment, it will make it easier for your body to finish off the excess spike proteins in your body. The less spike proteins, the less angry you are. It's a win win for all.
 
GoldenGate said:
Natural immunity is really great for 100% of people who don't die or suffer from long term complications, and also don't end up killing the people around them when they got it.

Enjoy the CA mask mandate snowflake. You earned it.
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Funny how by rebelling against something they made it worse (for everyone, but of course that’s none of their concern as they don’t even realize they are included in that) and have prolonged all the suffering (again, for everyone, including them of course). Like with small children they need to learn to take their punishment, do their chores, do their homework, eat their vegetables, take their medicine whatever the case may be at the time, be a big boy/girl and move on with your life. The sooner it’s done the sooner things move on . . . or we can just keep stepping back to again, again.
 
what-happened said:
I love how tweedle dee gives your posts the thumbs up.

You must have hit your head this morning, we can prescribe somthing for that. You've done a good job of putting together sentences with words you've seen on reddit. I know you find it easy to ridicule others, which is very endearing, some would call it cute.

Congrats on distorting words again. Good choice of drugs, I dont' think you even graps what you typed. Please explain your rationale for tying together drugs and ventilation and how that is part of an early treatment protocol. I can't wait for your expert testimony - I'll make sure to pass it on.

How am I anti vax? I'm excited to get your take. Figurin I'm world class stupid, please tell me how you chose the drugs to use as an example of an early treatment regimen. What exactly is horsepaste? How is being ventilated considered an early treatment? Are you confused with the different methods of supplementing oxygen in a patient?

I'm pretty sure you are vaxxed and boosted, likely with moderna - it would explain a lot. Let's work on your temperment, it will make it easier for your body to finish off the excess spike proteins in your body. The less spike proteins, the less angry you are. It's a win win for all.
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Another endearing quality he has is his incessant whining about whiny people.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Funny how by rebelling against something they made it worse (for everyone, but of course that’s none of their concern as they don’t even realize they are included in that) and have prolonged all the suffering (again, for everyone, including them of course). Like with small children they need to learn to take their punishment, do their chores, do their homework, eat their vegetables, take their medicine whatever the case may be at the time, be a big boy/girl and move on with your life. The sooner it’s done the sooner things move on . . . or we can just keep stepping back to again, again.
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amp.theatlantic.com

Gen Z Is Done With the Pandemic

Though the specter of a new variant hangs over the holidays, young people have no plans to lock themselves down again.
amp.theatlantic.com amp.theatlantic.com
 
what-happened said:
. In lesser developed countries, practitioners have had to practice medicine, look at the science and use what is available to care for their patients. Instead, many in the west have sent their patients home then to the hosptital to die. Interesting don't you think?
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I probably would have died at the start of this had my MD (before it had been approved as a treatment) not given me heavy doses of steroids. Why? Because even if it wasn't "authorized" yet, it's what made sense from his experience of practicing medicine.

Even more, my MD father had the forethought when this was still in China and Japan on the cruise ship to stock up on predisone "just in case" we needed it.
 
Brav520 said:
so if everyone gets vaccinated ( which will never happen), we just move on. Hmmm, not so sure about that
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That is great reasoning to support not getting vaccinated. Almost as good as claiming that natural immunity is 100% effective for the people it is effective for. And that horse paste and prayer warriors are all that's necessary.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Funny how by rebelling against something they made it worse (for everyone, but of course that’s none of their concern as they don’t even realize they are included in that) and have prolonged all the suffering (again, for everyone, including them of course). Like with small children they need to learn to take their punishment, do their chores, do their homework, eat their vegetables, take their medicine whatever the case may be at the time, be a big boy/girl and move on with your life. The sooner it’s done the sooner things move on . . . or we can just keep stepping back to again, again.
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who is they? and how do they affect you? Living linear is no way to live.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
It's the perfect thing to say because they can never be proved wrong. It's what people do when they are frustrated with the outcome of their previous predictions.
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NBA shutting down games , colleges shutting down campuses . Places with vaccine mandates

im starting to think some people just don’t want to move on
 
GoldenGate said:
That is great reasoning to support not getting vaccinated. Almost as good as claiming that natural immunity is 100% effective for the people it is effective for. And that horse paste and prayer warriors are all that's necessary.
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Yea, that's exactly the intepretation of what was said. you win so much.
 
Grace T. said:
I probably would have died at the start of this had my MD (before it had been approved as a treatment) not given me heavy doses of steroids. Why? Because even if it wasn't "authorized" yet, it's what made sense from his experience of practicing medicine.

Even more, my MD father had the forethought when this was still in China and Japan on the cruise ship to stock up on predisone "just in case" we needed it.
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Good physicians can do wonders with off label. The scared ones think they work for the CDC and FDA.
 
Brav520 said:
NBA shutting down games , colleges shutting down campuses . Places with vaccine mandates

im starting to think some people just don’t want to move on
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If you're talking about you and your anti-vax/mask douchebuddies, then you are correct some people just don't want to move on.
 
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