Bruddah IZ
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Guessing? No, and that's not what I wrote.
There is a boatload of work to prove safety and efficacy. They did all of that.
What they did not do was figure out whether some other schedule was slightly better.
That doesn't mean they were "guessing". The goal was to get a vaccine out quickly. So they chose a schedule that could be tested quickly.
As a result, we were able to vaccinate a lot of our 80+ population before the winter wave got to them.
Most people see that as a good thing.
Hüsker Dü
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You all look (and sound) the same to me as well.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Fear is a natural response to a perceived danger. Denial is not.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Your inferiority complex is showing (“self-righteousness” lol! Boo hoo) and did you prefer, “it will be gone by Easter” (and all that jazz) and wish for more of the same of that?
Potato patatoe
Making an educate guess that can be rolled out quickly, guessing.
Yes, the kind of educated guess that involves tens of thousands of clinical trial participants followed by very difficult statistics work.
Maybe, someday, if you spend the next 15 years studying, you could become qualified to help make that kind of educated guess.
Probably not. For that kind of educated guess, the education requirements are wicked hard.
All that time and education just to be wrong about everything. Got it
your bias for the meritocracy is showing again.
Hüsker Dü
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Who told you they were wrong about everything? Sounds like something a con man would tell people to gain their confidence. “I’m right they’re wrong believe me and only me”
For medicine, I lean very heavily towards meritocracy. Most people do.
Do you prefer to crowdsource your choice of ingested chemicals?
Desert Hound
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Is this anything?
alexberenson.substack.com
Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.
alexberenson.substack.com
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Well, assuming the most at risk are getting vaccinated at a higher rate, the two sets of people won't be randomly distributed. Also, the increase in the death rate among the vaccinated may indicate waning protection. The breakdown from 10-59 is vexing given the way the virus is much harder on older people.Is this anything?
Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.
They do about economics too yet economists missed both the 2008 bubble and the current “transitory” inflation trend
the fact is the meritocracy has not done well in its educated guesses. If we wanted to reform the system there’s more we can do than just crowdsource it. Again your analysis neglects that there was an outsource group of don’t passers that mostly got it right just as there were in 2008
btw the two groups need each other. The 2008 don’t passers for the most part remarkably underperformed after 2008. The problem with the don’t passers is they see disaster even in the good times. The problem with the meritocratic passers is their own arrogance doesn’t let them believe they are wrong. Add to that a healthy dose of censorship, the personalities in public health (no medium well steaks for you!), a propensity to circle the wagons and being in bed with big pharma and it’s a prescription (haha) for disaster
btw I do think front lines docs have done much better than public health docs. Example: after seeing early disaster results they shifted away from ventilators quickly and they led the push for public health to revise their thinking. It was the same with the steroids as I personally can attest.
Probably not. 10-59 is a very wide age band.Is this anything?
Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age
And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it's correct, based on weekly data from the British government.
Vaccination status correlates with age. Deaths from all causes correlates with age.
What you’re seeing is that people likely to die from early heart attacks are also likely to have been vaccinated.
If you took the same age band, you’d find that getting a shingles shot correlates with deaths from all causes, too.
interesting article in the Economist on ivermectin. Paywall, unfortunately.
Turns out that ivm is an excellent drug for covid, if you happen to have worms. The steroid treatment for covid makes the worms grow like crazy. ivm keeps them in check.
It helps explain the vast difference in results for ivm studies. Studies were more positive on ivm if they were done in countries with lots of parasites.
So, the low income countries using ivm were doing the right thing, for them. And the wealthy countries avoiding ivm were doing the right thing, for them.
Turns out that ivm is an excellent drug for covid, if you happen to have worms. The steroid treatment for covid makes the worms grow like crazy. ivm keeps them in check.
It helps explain the vast difference in results for ivm studies. Studies were more positive on ivm if they were done in countries with lots of parasites.
So, the low income countries using ivm were doing the right thing, for them. And the wealthy countries avoiding ivm were doing the right thing, for them.
met61
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...simply reading their written word... as is always the case with you.
How many years of education, research and statistical analysis does it take to make a prediction like this?
UC San Diego virus expert pleads with surfers to stay out of the ocean to avoid coronavirus
Kim Prather — a UC San Diego atmospheric scientist who studies how viruses and bacteria are ejected from the ocean — pleaded with surfers on Monday to stay out of the water to minimize …
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