Vaccine

Some California counties enacted strict indoor mask mandates in response to the summer wave. Others did nothing.

But when comparing counties with similar vaccination rates, we see “near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.”

Interestingly, San Diego County — which has a higher vaccination rate than Los Angeles and Orange counties — had a higher case rate than those two counties, but similar hospitalization figures. San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura counties had near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.

https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/...ndates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php
 
watfly said:
You're one of the reasonable people on this thread, I have a hard time believing you support his rhetoric. He intentionally makes up people's positions so he has something to argue about and spew ad hominems. We should call him Don Quixote since he's always "tilting at windmills".
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Why are you having such a hard time confronting the reality that the anti-mask/vax shit posting that you think is so funny here isn't so funny when the exact same posts fill the FB feeds of one dead schmuck after the next? Instead, they're humiliating, pathetic and profoundly sad. You just want to pretend that there aren't actual repercussions for your irresponsible behavior.

Here are a few of the Herman Cain Award winners who subscribed to your belief that we should ignore what "lab people" say and instead rely "on the front line." Like you, they also ignored that virtually everyone on the front line says that the best way to avoid dying is to get vaccinated so we don't need to stuff your dumb ass with horse paste.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pkfz6v
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/puczeg
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/q1iwju
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pbnx7o
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...en_you_go_all_in_on_vitamin_d_to_fight_covid/
 
GoldenGate said:
Why are you having such a hard time confronting the reality that the anti-mask/vax shit posting that you think is so funny here isn't so funny when the exact same posts fill the FB feeds of one dead schmuck after the next? Instead, they're humiliating, pathetic and profoundly sad. You just want to pretend that there aren't actual repercussions for your irresponsible behavior.

Here are a few of the Herman Cain Award winners who subscribed to your belief that we should ignore what "lab people" say and instead rely "on the front line." Like you, they also ignored that virtually everyone on the front line says that the best way to avoid dying is to get vaccinated so we don't need to stuff your dumb ass with horse paste.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pkfz6v
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/puczeg
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/q1iwju
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pbnx7o
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...en_you_go_all_in_on_vitamin_d_to_fight_covid/
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It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..

carry on….
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Some California counties enacted strict indoor mask mandates in response to the summer wave. Others did nothing.

But when comparing counties with similar vaccination rates, we see “near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.”

Interestingly, San Diego County — which has a higher vaccination rate than Los Angeles and Orange counties — had a higher case rate than those two counties, but similar hospitalization figures. San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura counties had near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.

https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/...ndates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php
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Wow, Q anti-vaxxers as so desperate to find support for not wearing masks that they're citing articles that don't support going maskless and also emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated.
 
watfly said:
You're one of the reasonable people on this thread, I have a hard time believing you support his rhetoric. He intentionally makes up people's positions so he has something to argue about and spew ad hominems. We should call him Don Quixote since he's always "tilting at windmills".
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I was mostly just giving you a hard time as I thought it was funny.

I mean I do think the Herman Cain Award subreddit is pretty eye opening. I think it's incredibly sad that people have taken these hardline stances and then end up suffering. I don't laugh at it, that's for sure.
 
NorCalDad said:
I was mostly just giving you a hard time as I thought it was funny.

I mean I do think the Herman Cain Award subreddit is pretty eye opening. I think it's incredibly sad that people have taken these hardline stances and then end up suffering. I don't laugh at it, that's for sure.
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Gotcha now, my bad.

I'm all for Darwin principles prevailing, and I don't have a ton of sympathy for those individuals, but I find "dancing on their graves" in order to prove a point on a forum to be disturbing.

I'm pro-vax, but even if I wasn't, I would probably still get a shot for karma reasons even though I know my risks are negligible.
 
Kicker4Life said:
It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..

carry on….
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That's one way to pretend that your behavior isn't pathetic and getting people killed. Of course, when legitimate news entities report on the effectiveness of vaccines, you call them the "lame stream media". When epidemiologists support vaccines, you say you believe people "on the front lines" more than freaking vaccine experts. When you're seeing the actual posts of these dead schmucks, well, it's just Reddit.

There is nothing and no one that will change your minds. We have learned from the Herman Cain Awards that people like you are perfectly fine taking your stupidity and anti-vaxxer memes with you all the way to the grave.
 
GoldenGate said:
That's one way to pretend that your behavior isn't pathetic and getting people killed. Of course, when legitimate news entities report on the effectiveness of vaccines, you call them the "lame stream media". When epidemiologists support vaccines, you say you believe people "on the front lines" more than freaking vaccine experts. When you're seeing the actual posts of these dead schmucks, well, it's just Reddit.

There is nothing and no one that will change your minds. We have learned from the Herman Cain Awards that people like you are perfectly fine taking your stupidity and anti-vaxxer memes with you all the way to the grave.
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Who’s behavior? Who’s mind?
As you’ve always done and continuously been smacked down for is making your dumbfounded ASSumptions. Because that’s all you know and that’s how you find self value.
Carry on…….
 
watfly said:
Gotcha now, my bad.

I'm all for Darwin principles prevailing, and I don't have a ton of sympathy for those individuals, but I find "dancing on their graves" in order to prove a point on a forum to be disturbing.

I'm pro-vax, but even if I wasn't, I would probably still get a shot for karma reasons even though I know my risks are negligible.
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I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
 
Kicker4Life said:
It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..

carry on….
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Well you can see he is excited to have found that thread on reddit. It apparently helps him to round out his very busy day. After all sometimes trolls like to hang out with other trolls in situations where they all like something.
 
NorCalDad said:
I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
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I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion based on his rhetoric. We will have to agree to disagree ;). Carry on.

I also suspect that those singled out on the Reddit thread have made a series of poor health choices, likely the least of which was not getting vaccinated. But neither of us really know their situation.
 
watfly said:
I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion based on his rhetoric. We will have to agree to disagree ;). Carry on.

I also suspect that those singled out on the Reddit thread have made a series of poor health choices, likely the least of which was not getting vaccinated. But neither of us really know their situation.
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Oh sorry, I was referring to the subreddit itself. I actually haven't read all of GGs posts, but I'm quite familiar with the subreddit.

I think it's pretty safe to say that had many of these folks gotten the vaccine they would still be alive today. That's the real rub in all of this. Natural immunity approach with anti-vax sentiment creates an opportunity for quite a bit of collateral damage. I really do feel bad for all those people out there that have lost love ones or suffered themselves due to them listening to grifters on social media (or heck, maybe some followed threads here).
 
GoldenGate said:
Wow, Q anti-vaxxers as so desperate to find support for not wearing masks that they're citing articles that don't support going maskless and also emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated.
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Lol! Just be grateful your maker mandated immune systems. He knew you zealots would arrogantly ignore natural immunity.
 
NorCalDad said:
I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
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... interesting take, what about those masked and vaxxed who died from it? Or, those who die from vax? Or, pre-vax the vast majority who got it and recovered? Or, the masked and vaxxed who still get it and spread it? Or, those masked and vaxxed thanks it works but are afraid of the non-vaxxed? Or, all the other contributing health conditions and choices?.
and on and on.

Maybe there's a lot more to this than your simplistic example.
 
met61 said:
... interesting take, what about those masked and vaxxed who died from it? Or, those who die from vax? Or, pre-vax the vast majority who got it and recovered? Or, the masked and vaxxed who still get it and spread it? Or, those masked and vaxxed thanks it works but are afraid of the non-vaxxed? Or, all the other contributing health conditions and choices?.
and on and on.

Maybe there's a lot more to this than your simplistic example.
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You're likely part of the problem.
 
Overall the point is, not one singular thing equals 100% protection. There is no Silver Bullet (not even for Influenza which has been around for Centuries).

You can roll the dice with Natural Immunity. However, if you are older, immuno-compromised, obese, etc, get the damn shot! You can roll the dice with a “vaccine”. But NEITHER are as effective without a proper diet and exercise. Even in some, rare cases, that is not enough.

I do think it’s stupid in the long run to mandate kids under 15 to get the shot (unless they fall into some of the above categories) since there is little to no risk and evolution has proven we can develop a high level of resistance to viral infections.

Since the current Admin is Mandate Happy….they should try Mandating 20 min of exercise per day and watch how many illness mortalities improve.
 
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