Vaccine

dad4 said:
Dizzy, by now we all know you’re just reposting graphs you do not understand
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Do you mean in the same way you suggest policy without understanding how outcomes may vary wildly due to cultural differences? This doesn't even consider the many variables that are not controlled for in lab testing. Culturally, we are much more like AU than we are like Singapore (see below). To enforce your policy suggestions in the US, it would very likely look like what they are doing in AU. At this point that scares me 1000x more than COVID. Interestingly (fortunately?), COVID has coincided with a decreased appetite to enforce laws and rules in the areas where COVID fear and the overestimation of COVID risk is greatest. So, instead, we leave it to hostesses and flight attendants to enforce policy. What could possibly go wrong?

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We were told that the Super Bowl would be a “superspreader” event, but all COVID metrics continued their decline in the weeks after it ended...
dad4 said:
Dizzy, by now we all know you’re just reposting graphs you do not understand, but found on some right wing website.

Glad to hear you now approve of cluster RCT. Does that mean you’re willing to admit that surgical masks work to reduce effective transmission?
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q.e.d.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Do you mean in the same way you suggest policy without understanding how outcomes may vary wildly due to cultural differences? This doesn't even consider the many variables that are not controlled for in lab testing. Culturally, we are much more like AU than we are like Singapore (see below). To enforce your policy suggestions in the US, it would very likely look like what they are doing in AU. At this point that scares me 1000x more than COVID. Interestingly (fortunately?), COVID has coincided with a decreased appetite to enforce laws and rules in the areas where COVID fear and the overestimation of COVID risk is greatest. So, instead, we leave it to hostesses and flight attendants to enforce policy. What could possibly go wrong?

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Covidsm is now a cult with two distint sects. It's kinda weird but big pharma and big government will capitlize on it. The government has given over $12B to the big 3 for 700B doses. Gotta get those in arms before they go bad.

With pills on the horizon, big pharma can make the big money. Culturally we are more prone to take pills than to mask up or get jabbed. Why on earth would you get a booster if you have a pill you can take the moment you get sick, especially with breakthrough infections on the rise. For that matter, why even get jabbed if you have a pill. I highy doubt treatment will be free of charge. I'm sure a course of treatment will likley run upwards of $500 per. Pretty profitable.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
The latest report from the UK very clear for the past 14 days, 53% of new Delta infections are among fully vaxxed compared to unvaccinated and 67% of deaths now in fully vaccinated. Dr. Andrew Pollard said the jab isn't stopping transmission & the focus should be on dev nations.

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This seems about right. Consider the ≥50 sub-group for Delta cases for example. 51,420 cases in fully vaxxed, 6724 in unvaxxed. That's about 88% of the cases in vaxxed. However, for this age group in UK I think its about 95% fully vaxxed. If assume delta exposure is equivalent between vaxxed and unvaxxed, those relative proportions would give an estimated odds risk ratio of ~2.5X more likely to get infected with no vaxx as opposed to fully vaxxed. It's probably higher considering that many nonvaxxed will have immunity conferred through infection.
 
dad4 said:
I'm telling people that we just killed a half million people by being stubborn about masks and indoor dining.

I didn't expect flowers and a standing ovation.

I expected people to put their hands over their ears and chant "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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You got it!
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Do you mean in the same way you suggest policy without understanding how outcomes may vary wildly due to cultural differences? This doesn't even consider the many variables that are not controlled for in lab testing. Culturally, we are much more like AU than we are like Singapore (see below). To enforce your policy suggestions in the US, it would very likely look like what they are doing in AU. At this point that scares me 1000x more than COVID. Interestingly (fortunately?), COVID has coincided with a decreased appetite to enforce laws and rules in the areas where COVID fear and the overestimation of COVID risk is greatest. So, instead, we leave it to hostesses and flight attendants to enforce policy. What could possibly go wrong?

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By “culturally” you mean “FREEDUMB!” as opposed to listening to the scientific experts?
 
dad4 said:
I'm telling people that we just killed a half million people by being stubborn about masks and indoor dining.

I didn't expect flowers and a standing ovation.

I expected people to put their hands over their ears and chant "La, la, la. I can't hear you."
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Pre-vaccination, 43% of all covid deaths were in long term care facilities. Plenty of masking and not much recreational indoor dining. Your commentary is truly reaching new broken record heights. I know this thread has basically become an echo chamber.

You would feel so much better if you just worried about yourself. Some people just aren't going to listen and many people will make their own decisions. Yoga is a better option.
 
what-happened said:
Pre-vaccination, 43% of all covid deaths were in long term care facilities. Plenty of masking and not much recreational indoor dining. Your commentary is truly reaching new broken record heights. I know this thread has basically become an echo chamber.

You would feel so much better if you just worried about yourself. Some people just aren't going to listen and many people will make their own decisions. Yoga is a better option.
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That’s the issue with you isn’t it? “if you just worried about yourself”. That’s all you do. Some of us are capable of far more than that.
 
You anti-science Zealots should be ashamed of your moral posturing. Cowards, the lot of you.

n the UK, cancer authorities have been warning of the avoidable, excess cancer deaths that will result from COVID overreaction – as many as 60,000. Richard Sullivan, a professor of cancer and global health at King’s College London and director of its Institute of Cancer Policy, warned:
The cessation and delay of cancer care will cause considerable avoidable suffering. Cancer screening services have stopped, which means we will miss our chance to catch many cancers when they are treatable and curable, such as cervical, bowel and breast. When we do restart normal service delivery after the lockdown is lifted, the backlog of cases will be a huge challenge to the healthcare system.

According to the Daily Mail on October 6:

Vital operations were canceled and patients missed out on potentially life-saving therapy in the spring because tackling Covid-19 became the sole focus of the health service, instead of cancer and other cruel diseases.

Almost 2.5 million people missed out on cancer screening, referrals or treatment at the height of lockdown, even though the NHS was never overwhelmed—despite fears it would be crippled by the pandemic.

Experts now fear the number of people dying as a result of delays triggered by the treatment of coronavirus patients could even end up being responsible for as many deaths as the pandemic itself.
 
what-happened said:
Pre-vaccination, 43% of all covid deaths were in long term care facilities. Plenty of masking and not much recreational indoor dining. Your commentary is truly reaching new broken record heights. I know this thread has basically become an echo chamber.

You would feel so much better if you just worried about yourself. Some people just aren't going to listen and many people will make their own decisions. Yoga is a better option.
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You want a nice safe space where you tell each other that "it was all inevitable, so we didn't do anything wrong."

Unfortunately, that statement is not true. It was not inevitable.

Our personal decisions on masks, parties, restaurants, and gambling trips added up to over a half million unnecessary deaths.

Now go back to telling yourselves little fairy tales and blaming French Laundry Boy.
 
dad4 said:
You want a nice safe space where you tell each other that "it was all inevitable, so we didn't do anything wrong."

Unfortunately, that statement is not true. It was not inevitable.

Our personal decisions on masks, parties, restaurants, and gambling trips added up to over a half million unnecessary deaths.

Now go back to telling yourselves little fairy tales and blaming French Laundry Boy.
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I just got my lab-confirmed T-cell immunity test back that showed robust immune memory over 10 months after I had COVID-19. I have no fear of re-infection.
 
dad4 said:
You want a nice safe space where you tell each other that "it was all inevitable, so we didn't do anything wrong."

Unfortunately, that statement is not true. It was not inevitable.

Our personal decisions on masks, parties, restaurants, and gambling trips added up to over a half million unnecessary deaths.

Now go back to telling yourselves little fairy tales and blaming French Laundry Boy.
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Flat earther.
 
dad4 said:
You want a nice safe space where you tell each other that "it was all inevitable, so we didn't do anything wrong."

Unfortunately, that statement is not true. It was not inevitable.

Our personal decisions on masks, parties, restaurants, and gambling trips added up to over a half million unnecessary deaths.

Now go back to telling yourselves little fairy tales and blaming French Laundry Boy.
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Funny how the denier sect likes to project. They are the biggest snowflakes and safe space seekers around as they shield their eyes and ears while running for the cover of “alternative facts”, rightwing only media and friendly social media platforms.
 
It looks like the supply chain collapse has begun in parts of the us (it’s been underway for a few weeks in the Uk) There are reports on Twitter of panic buying certain items (you can guess which ones…we’ve been through this before). That’s enough at least in SoCal to push things over the edge. Only question is whether this is going to be a full north korea, a more moderate Soviet Union or merely Yugoslavia.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Funny how the denier sect likes to project. They are the biggest snowflakes and safe space seekers around as they shield their eyes and ears while running for the cover of “alternative facts”, rightwing only media and friendly social media platforms.
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I get it. Youʻre just mad that you didnʻt get to opt out of an immune system. And now it is causing all types of cerebral issues as you continue to deny the superior immunity that it provides to billions as they continue to flourish despite the common cold virus that has been around for 55 million years. Your fear is cloaked by your bitter flat earther comments.
 
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