Vaccine

Desert Hound said:
And as a further thought...

These mandates...vaxx passports, masking in bars, etc do nothing.

The people getting sick and dying are still those who are old and have serious health issues. That group makes up more than 80% of all deaths. The other 20%? Again generally speaking people who already have serious health issues.

These people generally speaking are not the ones hanging out in schools, playing soccer, going out for drinks at the bar, etc. And yet these places are the ones being told...make sure people mask up or have proof of vaxx to enter.

Those efforts wont make any noticeable difference on what the virus does.
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And within that age group are most of the politicians who are making these mandates.
 
watfly said:
Evolution of our Covid policy:

1) Do as we say

2) Shut up, and do as we say

3) Shut up, and do as we say, or be fired

And despite doing what they say and compliance from the vast majority, Covid continues to do its own thing. "Just stay at home to flatten the curve", "just wear a mask", "just get a vaccine and you won't have to wear mask"
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“Lets see if we can flatten the curve of a 55 million year old virus”
 
met61 said:
...for every mask study you have there are 10x more examples of politicians, celebs, elites etc. not practicing what they preach and mandate... hell, to this day the damn White House isn't 100% vaxxed...not to mention, Hollywood award shows back to full strength maskless... broadcasting in our face as they hug, kiss and bloviate as usual...while my kids sit in class all day masked.

Yet there you are, a compliant little sheep lecturing others and demanding others live your cowardly lifestyle. You may be smart, but you lack the wisdom to know you are being played!

Oh, BTW...you can take my mask...roll it up, bend over, insert, and light it up.
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So, your point is that masks work but politicians and celebrities are a bunch of hypocrites? Ok. I agree completely with both points.

I do not agree that, because Obama held a covid themed birthday party, therefore I should increase the risk to my neighbors. That one seems a bit illogical.
 
dad4 said:
I do not agree that, because Obama held a covid themed birthday party, therefore I should increase the risk to my neighbors. That one seems a bit illogical.
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What is illogical is the following:

You are vaxxed.
Any one not vaxxed has made that choice.

So it is illogical to run around and be worried about people who have decided not to be vaxxed.

Move on and live life.
 
Grace T. said:
Those of you who had mandates after the recall officially win the pool. Reportedly will apply to all K-12 (they are anticipating approval of the 5-11s) and kicks in at the beginning of 2022. Applies to private, public, religious schools as well.

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It was such a sure thing Vegas probably didn't even put odds on it. Although, it took him longer than I expected. I was betting on the week after the election not a couple weeks after. But good for him for waiting until we were in a steep decline in cases, before implementing new mandates.
 
watfly said:
It was such a sure thing Vegas probably didn't even put odds on it. Although, it took him longer than I expected. I was betting on the week after the election not a couple weeks after. But good for him for waiting until we were in a steep decline in cases, before implementing new mandates.
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If you have been doing whatever you like already, it makes no sense.

Among those who have been delaying indoor events for 18 months, this will quite popular. Right up there with employer mandates, which are also popular in California.

They want their normal back, and vaccine mandates are a way to get it.
 
dad4 said:
If you have been doing whatever you like already, it makes no sense.

Among those who have been delaying indoor events for 18 months, this will quite popular. Right up there with employer mandates, which are also popular in California.

They want their normal back, and vaccine mandates are a way to get it.
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If its so popular then why didn't Newsom do it in August when cases were so high and climbing instead of when they've dropped significantly and are still dropping? You must believe he has "blood on his hands" for not doing it sooner.
 
watfly said:
If its so popular then why didn't Newsom do it in August when cases were so high and climbing instead of when they've dropped significantly and are still dropping? You must believe he has "blood on his hands" for not doing it sooner.
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Why would I blame Newsom? He’s done a pretty good job.

Now, would I have supported a vaccine mandate back in August? Sure. I also support it now. I’ll support it next month, too.

Because I’m tired of cancelling birthday parties. The unmasked, unvaccinated can start to pull their own weight for once.
 
dad4 said:
If you have been doing whatever you like already, it makes no sense.

Among those who have been delaying indoor events for 18 months, this will quite popular. Right up there with employer mandates, which are also popular in California.

They want their normal back, and vaccine mandates are a way to get it.
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How is segregating a population and showing having to show papers in order to live life, getting back to normal?
 
dad4 said:
Why would I blame Newsom? He’s done a pretty good job.

Now, would I have supported a vaccine mandate back in August? Sure. I also support it now. I’ll support it next month, too.

Because I’m tired of cancelling birthday parties. The unmasked, unvaccinated can start to pull their own weight for once.
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Its just proof that its primarily political. You have no one else to blame for cancelling birthday parties other than yourself. You can't blame shift that to anyone else.
 
Kicker4Life said:
How is segregating a population and showing having to show papers in order to live life, getting back to normal?
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Because, if the unvaccinated stop spreading disease in bars, gyms, and restaurants, then cases will decline enough that my kid can have a sleepover.

For that, I don’t mind showing my vaccine card at a restaurant.
 
dad4 said:
Because, if the unvaccinated stop spreading disease in bars, gyms, and restaurants, then cases will decline enough that my kid can have a sleepover.

For that, I don’t mind showing my vaccine card at a restaurant.
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Wow your kid hasn't had a sleepover since this began and had cancelled birthday parties? After the N95 in the supermarket thing I guess I shouldn't really be shocked.
 
watfly said:
Its just proof that its primarily political. You have no one else to blame for cancelling birthday parties other than yourself. You can't blame shift that to anyone else.
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When one third of the population refused to follow the rules, I had two choices.

I could help spread covid, knowing that I was increasing cases, deaths, and hospitalizations. Or I could follow the rules, knowing that it was a drop in the bucket.

Mostly, I chose to follow the rules to try to help. But that doesn’t stop me from being mad at the assholes who never lifted a finger to help the entire time.
 
dad4 said:
Because, if the unvaccinated stop spreading disease in bars, gyms, and restaurants, then cases will decline enough that my kid can have a sleepover.

For that, I don’t mind showing my vaccine card at a restaurant.
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Because… you and your family friends are vaccinated, so you can’t have their child over for a sleepover because there are unvaccinated people in the community?

Ok? Your family your choice.

Just don’t blame the lack of childhood sleepovers on anyone but yourself at this point.

Sure, opt not to invite the anti-vaccine family over, that makes sense from a certain perspective…
 
dad4 said:
When one third of the population refused to follow the rules, I had two choices.

I could help spread covid, knowing that I was increasing cases, deaths, and hospitalizations. Or I could follow the rules, knowing that it was a drop in the bucket.

Mostly, I chose to follow the rules to try to help. But that doesn’t stop me from being mad at the assholes who never lifted a finger to help the entire time.
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What "rules"? My kid is off to Catalina next week to sleepover with other vaxxed or confirmed natural immunity students on a school trip.

If you choose to cancel your kids activities after vaxx was available, that's on you. Look at the mirror for who you have to blame.
 
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