Vaccine

Speaking of impacts to supply chains...


Yeah, I'm really beginning to get nervous about this...the entire house of cards is teetering on a knife's edge....all it will take is one global incident such as a regional war and it all comes crashing down.
 
”Go away”, in this context, means “become endemic at a low level”. Anything under one daily case per 100K residents, sustained.

This will happen when immunity hits 1-1/R, and not before.

Remember that the virus can, and will, move the goalposts on you. Alpha, Delta, and the LA variant all changed R, for example. That moved the goalposts. The next variant might change the effective vaccination rate. That would move the line of scrimmage backward.

Don’t like it? Me either. Science is descriptive, not fair.
Fortunately linear scientific thinking does't run most of day to day life. For many, especially those that operate under the umbrella of public health, endemic management is essentially a reality and underway. Even big Pharma has headed that way. Plenty of $$$ to be made by selling disease management pills. The pill industry is about to go off. Now is a good time to make the jump into the Pharma sales world (merck comes to mind).

Short of complete lockdown (imagine actually sealing our land borders and air ports of entry), we don't really have the power to make this virus "go away". Many examples of these fruitless attempts all over the world. Vaccinations, natural immunity, boosters will likely make the virus less effective at mutating. Sure, antibodies wane over time but we have those B and T cell thingies that are pretty cool and effective. Sure, immunity wanes over time but no question B and T cells will protect against severe disease and death. No question we are on the glidepath to endemic land. To recognize that is foolish.

Besides, all of the cool kids are getting breakthrough infections well inside of the wane period of all three vaccines. As is the norm, bad messaging from the beginning on the capability and the limitations of the vaccines. We've known all along how not good the vaccines were going to be in providing immunity. We certainly knew how good they were going to be at preventing severe disease and hospitalization. But here we are still talking about eradication. Most people have moved on.
 
What's up with Fox.com? This is all I see when i look. I guess FBI called in Dog the Bounty Hunter to crack the cold case.


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I think many people have moved on. However many of our politicians have not. And that is why we see silly rules related to schools and sport as just one example.
The fact that some people who are vaccinated are getting the virus has pushed a segment of the population into a bit of a panic. Prior to this realization, we already had many who were/are happy to wear masks into perpetuity. This just added to it.
 
I think many people have moved on. However many of our politicians have not. And that is why we see silly rules related to schools and sport as just one example.

The amount of freedom being curtail is getting kind of scary from the politicians

Between the air travel and a entire city of LA considering mandating vax, mask, test at all indoor places yeah where is this heading?


She is my representative and while I haven't reviewed this bill I sure most citizens on the block where I live would have preferred to be included in at least a discussion of options.

https://abc7.com/covid-vaccine-indoor-mandate/11060467/
 
The amount of freedom being curtail is getting kind of scary from the politicians

Between the air travel and a entire city of LA considering mandating vax, mask, test at all indoor places yeah where is this heading?


She is my representative and while I haven't reviewed this bill I sure most citizens on the block where I live would have preferred to be included in at least a discussion of options.

https://abc7.com/covid-vaccine-indoor-mandate/11060467/
Kareem is nuts too. He's calling it a war and the uniform is Vax and mask and that's the way it is and the 10% of the non vaxers in the NBA should be disciplined and fired. Those anti vaxxers need to be dealt with Cap says. This is getting scary Grace T. I just got back from looking at the waves and the ships are everywhere.

 
The amount of freedom being curtail is getting kind of scary from the politicians

Between the air travel and a entire city of LA considering mandating vax, mask, test at all indoor places yeah where is this heading?


She is my representative and while I haven't reviewed this bill I sure most citizens on the block where I live would have preferred to be included in at least a discussion of options.

https://abc7.com/covid-vaccine-indoor-mandate/11060467/

At least her bill has a natural immunity exception and is arguably much more Constitution than the Biden EO on employers.

Though it is kind of ironic since she's been spotted without a mask a few times at Dulles/Reagan airport in the VIP lounge.
 
Honestly, we’d just like enough people to get vaccinated that this whole bloody thing goes away. That probably won’t happen.

I don’t care whether you individually refuse the shot. It only becomes a problem when so many people refuse the shot that you create a significant resevoir.
It’s only a problem when you ignore the mandated immune system and science in general.
 
"whole bloody thing goes away"

The problem at this point is that no one believes that anymore because of what's been done in the past

Remember 14 days to slow the spread?
Then 30?
Then it will be all over by summer?
Then if everyone wore a mask this will all be over?
Then once we have therapeutics around the fall?
Then once the vulnerable were offered a vaccine?
Then when everyone was offered a vaccine?
Then when vaccination levels reached x %?
Then July 4?

And on top of it all there's no off ramp right now that's been articulated, so the "whole blood thing goes away" is even less persuasive. The thing is likely endemic so what does the "whole bloody thing goes away" even mean? In California with cases down aren't we there already? The "whole bloody thing" hasn't gone away in California.
Didn’t he have you at “Honestly”?
 
The UK's supply chains have already hit a strain this week and there are warning signs that supply chains may be near the breaking point around the world, due in part to COVID restrictions.

Supply chain disruption is what a government addicted to interventions does. Whether housing finance or healthcare, this is all about a bailout of the banks that have financed big pharma and healthcare.
 
The amount of freedom being curtail is getting kind of scary from the politicians

Between the air travel and a entire city of LA considering mandating vax, mask, test at all indoor places yeah where is this heading?


She is my representative and while I haven't reviewed this bill I sure most citizens on the block where I live would have preferred to be included in at least a discussion of options.

https://abc7.com/covid-vaccine-indoor-mandate/11060467/
Included in the discussion????!!! That's not how Socialism works Uso.
 
My only disagreement with this letter by my treasured colleague Bryan Caplan is with his endorsement of Covid-19 vaccine mandates on campus. Here are two slices from this splendid missive:

Dear University Presidents:

We all know that higher education falls far short of its promise. I’ve spent a large part of my twenty five years as a research professor documenting the shortcomings of our system. Perhaps you’re even familiar with my The Case Against Education (Princeton University Press, 2018). In recent years, however, we’ve begun failing our students in new and improved ways. In the past, we failed to transform our students into thoughtful and knowledgeable adults, but at least most of them had a great four-year party (or often a five- or six-year party). Now we’re making the college experience itself actively dehumanizing.

This is most obvious when we look at our forever war on Covid. Virtually every college in America has a vaccine mandate – a wise move, in my view. Yet instead of using these amazing vaccines to return to normalcy, virtually every college in America continues to aggressively “fight Covid.” Our policies would have been unthinkable two years ago: Indoor mask mandates. 50% seating in dining halls. Excluding guests from live performances. Social distancing. All combined with sporadic yet self-righteous enforcement.

These policies aren’t merely “inconvenient.” They are dehumanizing. Showing other people how we feel – and seeing how they feel in turn – is a basic part of being a human being. A basic part of making friends. A basic part of connecting with a community. True, most students in the Covid era continue to make friends – and even smile on occasion. As Jurassic Park teaches us, “Life finds a way.” But this is still a stunted and twisted way for young people to live.

Sometimes, sadly, dehumanization is the price we pay to survive. But this is not one of those times. Even pre-vaccine, universities absurdly overreacted to Covid. Now that virtually everyone on campus has the vaccine, the overreaction is absurdly absurd. A conservative estimate of Covid’s Infection Fatality Rate is .6%. For the college-age, divide that risk by 30. For the vaccinated, divide by 10 again. That means we’re talking 1-in-50,000, assuming a student even gets infected. And of course, vaccines also greatly reduce infection and hence contagion.

I beg you, don’t reply with the fashionable preamble, “Out of an abundance of caution…” Life is full of trade-offs. Americans’ annual risk of dying in a car accident is roughly 1-in-9000, yet I doubt you would ban students from driving.
Similarly, please don’t start telling me about high-risk students and older members of our campus community. I am an “older member of our campus community,” and I know the risks. That’s why I got vaccinated as soon as possible. That’s enough to put my mind at ease; I face dozens of more serious risks every day. But if that’s not safe enough for me, then I, not an entire generation of students, should bear the burden of isolation.
 
Cont:

Nor is Covid the only issue where you are teaching paranoia. Many schools – and probably most of the top ones – now kick off the academic year with a long series of mandatory brainwashing sessions. You gather students together, then have your most fanatical employees preach against the evils of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and much more. As with Covid, you show near-zero interest in measuring (a) the on-campus prevalence of these ills, or (b) the effectiveness of your inhumane remedies. Instead, the brainwashing sessions just try to sow as much pessimism as possible.

I doubt that most of this matters much; preaching against “racism” at college is like preaching against “sin” at church. The people who need to hear the message are rarely in the audience. Nevertheless, there is one kind of brainwashing that probably does make a difference. For the worse.

I’m talking about your training in sexual harassment and sexual assault.


How can I say such a thing? Because most young adults are naturally shy around the opposite sex. Many if not most female students are so shy that they will never ask out a male student. Many if not most male students are so shy that they have to spend weeks or months “working up their courage” to propose a date. Social anxiety toward the opposite sex is a human universal, visible around the world and throughout history. And what does your training in sexual harassment and sexual assault do? Strive to maximize students’ anxiety. You try to convince female students that virtually any male is a plausible sexual predator. And along the way, you make male students wonder if any social interaction with their female peers will be labelled “harassment” or even “assault.”

None of this means that higher education should take sexual violence lightly. The wise path, however, is to define sexual violence narrowly – and punish it harshly. To treat it as an easily-identifiable aberration, a clear-cut crime, not something that an unbrainwashed person might do by accident.

Instead, you’ve taken the opposite path, of sowing paranoia. And, though your brainwashing is only one small part of a sad Zeitgeist, the patterns are what you’d expect: High gender segregation, loneliness, and lovelessness. Yes, extraverts land on their feet, but when I look at college campuses today, I feel sorry for the silent majority of shy kids. In the past, they only had to worry about being ignored and rejected. Now they have the added burden of paranoid fears of being victimized and demonized. And if you protest, “Such problems are unlikely,” you’re telling the wrong person. The people who need to hear that “Such problems are unlikely” are the students that you’re scaring to death.
 
Honestly, we’d just like enough people to get vaccinated that this whole bloody thing goes away. That probably won’t happen.

I don’t care whether you individually refuse the shot. It only becomes a problem when so many people refuse the shot that you create a significant resevoir.
Especially when we aren’t requiring immigrants to be vaccinated (legal or illegal that are released into the US). But god forbid if you worked in a hospital for 10 months during the peak of the pandemic (without a vaccine) but don’t want to get the shot….you get fired and withheld from Unemployment Benefits.

Talk about a violation of Constitutional Rights!

FYI - you can be Anti “Vaccine” Mandate without being Anti-“Vaccine”. Yes I use quotes because a vaccine prevents someone from getting or spreading the disease the vaccine is intended for. This “vaccine” does neither of those. But it does help combat the effects of the virus.
 
Especially when we aren’t requiring immigrants to be vaccinated (legal or illegal that are released into the US). But god forbid if you worked in a hospital for 10 months during the peak of the pandemic (without a vaccine) but don’t want to get the shot….you get fired and withheld from Unemployment Benefits.

Talk about a violation of Constitutional Rights!

FYI - you can be Anti “Vaccine” Mandate without being Anti-“Vaccine”. Yes I use quotes because a vaccine prevents someone from getting or spreading the disease the vaccine is intended for. This “vaccine” does neither of those. But it does help combat the effects of the virus.
Or, no jab and you can't fly or no jab and cant play be recruited to be on the team at some Big U because it's mandated. Or, if you play HSS you can't play in our league but then others cheat and get waivers at the last hour, after my kid already made the hard decision before goal post were moved. Rules for thee and not for me sucks big time. We are now ALL being ripped off and lied to Kicker. A lie is a lie. BTW, it's double the ships now out in front of my beach and it's 100% to do with this vaccine BS and pandemic that is just the flu and cover from the 2020 election steal. If you go down deeper in the rabbit hole, you will find out that the Orange man is a good man and you will be the first to say you were wrong about him some day soon :) The true reason were all in this mess is because of the human trafficking element that no one on here wants to talk about. It's about saving all the kids from evil. T said his #1 mission of his administration was to bring THE FULL FORCE OF FIRE POWER ((The Military)) to bring down this evil family of 13 that kill and abuse children. What were all witnessing is WHO is bought and bribed and blackmailed and WHO is not. Once all the bank robbers, cheaters and liars are video tapped robbing the bank, then all the indictments will be unsealed and then real change will come. Hold the Line Kicker!!!

 
Especially when we aren’t requiring immigrants to be vaccinated (legal or illegal that are released into the US). But god forbid if you worked in a hospital for 10 months during the peak of the pandemic (without a vaccine) but don’t want to get the shot….you get fired and withheld from Unemployment Benefits.

Talk about a violation of Constitutional Rights!

FYI - you can be Anti “Vaccine” Mandate without being Anti-“Vaccine”. Yes I use quotes because a vaccine prevents someone from getting or spreading the disease the vaccine is intended for. This “vaccine” does neither of those. But it does help combat the effects of the virus.
It is 100% lunacy
 
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