Vaccine

Not sure I understand what you're saying there? How am I off my original position? I think boosters are going to be a thing eventually. When?, I have no idea. My original position is that folks that have been infected potentially could be harder to convince to get a booster shot in the future than people who have previously been vaccinated. This doesn't seem like an extreme position to take.
Are the "Archers" better?
 
Dude, you just wrote: "I told everyone I would be last to take it. I want to make sure all the elderly and the poor around the world has jab. Come find me when the last jabs have been handed out to everyone else. It's the least I can do."

So you want all the poor and elderly to be on blood thinners due to getting"the jab"? Orrrrrr do you want the elderly and the poor to be protected by"the jab" so that they don't die of covid?

Which is it?
Dude, I write in satire. "I told everyone I would be last to take it." WTF is "everyone in my world?" I dont know EVERYONE. Seriously, you need help man.
 
Ahhh I see. I agreed they should be applied to both vaccinated and infected. The challenge, though, is someone who was infected back in March 2020 (PCR tested -- not "I felt weird for a week that month") could probably be under the assumption that they're good to go. I actually don't have a super strong opinion on who should be allowed to do what. I think businesses should be allowed to make those choices, but maybe be required to publish their policy. My only point was that saying "so and so had covid, right?" isn't necessarily a free pass. Most folks around my neck of the woods got vaccinated between March - May of this year, so while the clock is ticking, we're still a bit ok based on the data. My guess is the booster will be approved if we see another wave come through. Winter would be an ideal time for that to happen.
Did most people who got vaccinated in your neck wood show you PCR test results? Vax card showing two doses? Another wave? Is the neck wood gonna line up to show you their PCR test results and vax card with proof of booster shot?
 
I’m very happy to be in this position, very happy to be joining the faculty of University of Florida also. I talked to the governor and there are a few things that we’re going to keep in mind as we approach public health here in the state of Florida. The first is that Florida will completely reject fear as a way of making policies in public health. We’re done with fear. That’s been something that’s been unfortunately a centerpiece of health policy in the United States ever since the beginning of the pandemic, and it’s over here. Expiration date. It’s done.--Joe Ladopo, Go Bruins!!
 
The original subject of the discussion was whether the unvaccinated should be excluded from things like indoor dining. The conversation then turned to natural immunity which (if as dad4 says was proven with some form of test) should also be exempt. You objected that it depended on when it happened...how long ago. I pointed out that the vaccinated have the same problem. The conversation then turned to that's why there are boosters. But boosters, as you've said, aren't yet a thing...they might be in the future but aren't yet...which renders your objection moot (at least for the time being, but I get not necessarily in the future).
These people have lost their minds Grace T. They want me so bad to roll up my sleeve and take two for the team and be like Golden Gate and NoCalDad and Dad. Hahahahahaha, I picked right this time and now their jealous. I would love to see what these men look like up close and in person. We can have a drink and laugh this off some day. Grace T can be the judge of not only character, but physical looks and health. I will be 55 in November. Think Gettysburg address for when I turn 55. 11am baby!!! I am already the healthiest ever in my life and when i turn 55, I will be even healthier.
 
Ahhh I see. I agreed they should be applied to both vaccinated and infected. The challenge, though, is someone who was infected back in March 2020 (PCR tested -- not "I felt weird for a week that month") could probably be under the assumption that they're good to go. I actually don't have a super strong opinion on who should be allowed to do what. I think businesses should be allowed to make those choices, but maybe be required to publish their policy. My only point was that saying "so and so had covid, right?" isn't necessarily a free pass. Most folks around my neck of the woods got vaccinated between March - May of this year, so while the clock is ticking, we're still a bit ok based on the data. My guess is the booster will be approved if we see another wave come through. Winter would be an ideal time for that to happen.

They have been approved on EU for a large portion of people who want them (elderly, immunocompromised, front line workers). They haven't been recommended for everyone and the FDA scientific panel specifically turned down the white house's proposal in this area since there isn't a whole lot of data yet supporting whether boosters much good (at least offsetting the good they would otherwise do in places like the third world). My guess is that boosters at this point don't get a whole lot of traction barring a major groundbreaking study showing such benefit, or Pfizer getting out the update which has run into problems for a variety of reasons

 
In terms of that, I think vaccines will [be] treat[ed] like any other preventive issue. The goal will be education and that will be the goal and this idea that people don’t get to make their own decisions on issues of health related to their own personal health is wrong. It’s not something that we’re going to be about. We’re going to be about education.--Joe Ladopo
 
Did most people who got vaccinated in your neck wood show you PCR test results? Vax card showing two doses? Another wave? Is the neck wood gonna line up to show you their PCR test results and vax card with proof of booster shot?
What a tangled web we weave right? There is a growing population of people with breakthrough infections inside of the vaccine wane period. And it's going to keep growing. What happens then? Next step is breakthrough infections inside of booster wane period. What then?

Vaccinations with booster has its place in managing disease with those most vulnerable. No doubt current vaccines have minimized impact of severe disease who fall into this category. To mandate anything to healthy people is lunacy. If corporations want to mandate, then have at it. Prepare to suffer possible consequences of the mandates. Some will comply, some won't. No need to regurgitate all of the unintended consequences of mandates, hyperbole, etc on all facets of society.
 
I’m very happy to be in this position, very happy to be joining the faculty of University of Florida also. I talked to the governor and there are a few things that we’re going to keep in mind as we approach public health here in the state of Florida. The first is that Florida will completely reject fear as a way of making policies in public health. We’re done with fear. That’s been something that’s been unfortunately a centerpiece of health policy in the United States ever since the beginning of the pandemic, and it’s over here. Expiration date. It’s done.--Joe Ladopo, Go Bruins!!
Corona 19=Fear poison and people are addicted to fear. Anna wakes up every morning looking out for the Domic A.I. I think Domic is a demon that can go into millions of people if you let him. He brings the fear of death to people. Death is and should be a celebration of one's life and surrounded by love, not all alone in some nursing home. Mask for kids and stay away 6 feet is evil and not scientific.

C= 3
O=15
R=18
O=15
N=14
A= 1_
6 66

1= Artificial
9= Intelligence

Word for the day: Covfefe
 
What a tangled web we weave right? There is a growing population of people with breakthrough infections inside of the vaccine wane period. And it's going to keep growing. What happens then? Next step is breakthrough infections inside of booster wane period. What then?

Vaccinations with booster has its place in managing disease with those most vulnerable. No doubt current vaccines have minimized impact of severe disease who fall into this category. To mandate anything to healthy people is lunacy. If corporations want to mandate, then have at it. Prepare to suffer possible consequences of the mandates. Some will comply, some won't. No need to regurgitate all of the unintended consequences of mandates, hyperbole, etc on all facets of society.
Socialism is intoxicating. No needle required. Just fragile cowards.
 
Where have the chicken hawk SJ's been?

Jordan Davidson decries the Covidocracy’s deranged and despotic reign on college campuses. A slice:

After purging their enrollment lists of students who refused to comply with the shot mandate, a multitude of universities that boast a 100 percent vaccination rate are still restricting students’ activities on and off campus. Using capacity limits, travel bans, masking requirements regardless of vaccination status, and bolded recommendations barring dining in restaurants and bars, universities such as Amherst College in Massachusetts are implementing their own version of lockdowns on students and staff in the name of curbing future COVID outbreaks.

Officials at Amherst College recently threatened students with “stricter rules” following an outbreak at the nearby University of Massachusetts. The university’s paper admitted that “those infected had experienced mild to moderate illness and were not hospitalized,” but that didn’t stop College Chief of Police John Carter from demanding that Amherst students avoid “significant noncompliance” with the university’s mask mandates and other COVID-19 policies.

Most of these restrictions are indefinite, and the threat of more rules and regulations always looms over students’ heads.
 
Amherst Socialist Bicentennial......Hope parents are enjoying paying SOCIALIST

Student Off-Campus Travel
  • Students may travel beyond the town of Amherst, but within Hampshire County, which includes the towns of Amherst, Belchertown, Easthampton, Granby, Hatfield, Huntington, North Amherst, Northampton, South Amherst and Ware. Do not dine-in at restaurants, indoor cafes, or bars.
  • Travel beyond these limits must be approved by the Office of Student Affairs by submitting a request at Amherst.edu/go/travelform. Student organizations or teams seeking to travel beyond Hampshire County or overnight travel must coordinate through their recognizing department.
  • All Amherst College students must be masked when indoors at any off-campus location and when using public transportation.
  • While we are not currently restricting travel over fall break, we strongly encourage students to stay on campus. We ask anyone who chooses to travel to avoid COVID-19 hotspots and urge you to abide by all precautions, particularly mask-wearing. Anyone who travels off campus over the break will need to register their travel and will be required to participate in re-entry testing, which will mean scheduling your return to campus in time to be tested prior to your first class. If there are significant developments related to the pandemic and we need to institute other measures, up to and including prohibiting travel, we will let you know as soon as possible
  • It is too early to say whether travel to or from campus during other breaks or events (such as Family Weekend, Homecoming, and Thanksgiving) will be impacted. We simply do not know what the public health situation will be as those occasions near, but we will provide information as soon as possible.
 
Amherst Socialist Bicentennial......Hope parents are enjoying paying SOCIALIST

Student Off-Campus Travel
  • Students may travel beyond the town of Amherst, but within Hampshire County, which includes the towns of Amherst, Belchertown, Easthampton, Granby, Hatfield, Huntington, North Amherst, Northampton, South Amherst and Ware. Do not dine-in at restaurants, indoor cafes, or bars.
  • Travel beyond these limits must be approved by the Office of Student Affairs by submitting a request at Amherst.edu/go/travelform. Student organizations or teams seeking to travel beyond Hampshire County or overnight travel must coordinate through their recognizing department.
  • All Amherst College students must be masked when indoors at any off-campus location and when using public transportation.
  • While we are not currently restricting travel over fall break, we strongly encourage students to stay on campus. We ask anyone who chooses to travel to avoid COVID-19 hotspots and urge you to abide by all precautions, particularly mask-wearing. Anyone who travels off campus over the break will need to register their travel and will be required to participate in re-entry testing, which will mean scheduling your return to campus in time to be tested prior to your first class. If there are significant developments related to the pandemic and we need to institute other measures, up to and including prohibiting travel, we will let you know as soon as possible
  • It is too early to say whether travel to or from campus during other breaks or events (such as Family Weekend, Homecoming, and Thanksgiving) will be impacted. We simply do not know what the public health situation will be as those occasions near, but we will provide information as soon as possible.
IFR: .00006; the tyranny of tiny risk
 
Where have the chicken hawk SJ's been?

Jordan Davidson decries the Covidocracy’s deranged and despotic reign on college campuses. A slice:

After purging their enrollment lists of students who refused to comply with the shot mandate, a multitude of universities that boast a 100 percent vaccination rate are still restricting students’ activities on and off campus. Using capacity limits, travel bans, masking requirements regardless of vaccination status, and bolded recommendations barring dining in restaurants and bars, universities such as Amherst College in Massachusetts are implementing their own version of lockdowns on students and staff in the name of curbing future COVID outbreaks.

Officials at Amherst College recently threatened students with “stricter rules” following an outbreak at the nearby University of Massachusetts. The university’s paper admitted that “those infected had experienced mild to moderate illness and were not hospitalized,” but that didn’t stop College Chief of Police John Carter from demanding that Amherst students avoid “significant noncompliance” with the university’s mask mandates and other COVID-19 policies.

Most of these restrictions are indefinite, and the threat of more rules and regulations always looms over students’ heads.
I predict the next epidemic is in those people needing psychiatric care and mood/anxiety medication.
 
I took this shot today from my secret spot. My good pal owns a house on the rocks behind me and I stay on his private beach anytime I want. Fact is I counted 12 all the way up North by Kicker and down South by Wat Fly. The cargo ships are lining up like never before. 8 days back up and no where to anchor past Dana Point because it's super deep ocean and to far down for the cargo ships to let anchors down. So they just float down south and we see them all day.

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And in theory that is supposed to be a top ranked school academically.

And yet they pretend that the risk to young people is such that they need to put in place rules that restrict their students but won't make a difference to the spread of covid.
200 years!! Where did all the Science go?
 
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