Vaccine

You can opt out of the sticker requirement if you drive 60 in the fast lane.

I was always taught the fast lane was the passing lane. Apparently they don't teach that anymore, particularly in Arizona.
That would be the snowbirds (in AZ), definitely not the natives. Drive the I10 to Phoenix on a Sunday PM/evening, its Deathrace 2000 on steroids, where slow is only 10 above the limit ... and you are in the way.
 
Yeah...but I'm really worried that it's not fixable. I understood why people had a problem with Trump. I understood why after years of building up their frustrations, the conservatives went with Trump (and why a portion of the Republican party opted to risk burning it down rather than go with yet another establishmentarian like Jeb!). I had hoped I was wrong and Biden would be a unifier that would restore some semblance of normality. But nope....the left is still snapped and what Biden did yesterday (but for the right thinking the courts have their back) has snapped the R. It's not good....I just don't see how we off ramp at this point.
Those who can't get beyond a personality and vote as such are an inch deep.

It wasn't about Trump the person as much as it was about what that person exposed, revived, and accomplished.

It's not Trump's government, it's ours...and the political class in both parties have gotten way out of touch for what's best at the kitchen table level.

Trump showed how to take on the political class and their lackeys in the media, big tech and the lemming left... It will take enough folks reaching a tipping point, grassroots unity and the stones to do it...Keep an eye on poc's and the youth. We'll see.
 
Fact...but unscientific:

I am vaccinated. Recently, I contracted Covid, along with 2 other vax & 1 unvax, from another vax. I then spread to my vax spouse and my unvax teen = cases grew within a vaccinated population.

So, as I always ask...now what? or...then what?
Not a problem, so long as that is not the average.

If, on average, each vaccinated person infects two others, then it's a problem.
 
Extremely bad news if it' holds out:

1) There's some data to suggest vaccine immunity may be waning.
2) the UK spread it's vaccinations apart. It suggests (unless a much longer period is required to reach full immunity) Fauci/Gottlieb/Biden are wrong about the vaccine being like a chicken pox vaccination (1 booster= long lasting immunity). Not a slam dunk but it's an indication.
3) the vaccine seems to be providing less protection against hospitalization
4) the vaccine seems to be providing less protection against long COVID.

If so natural infection after vaccination may be the only alternative to ending this.

 
Sorry dad.

Was this the part you were thinking of?

"Newly released results from a large trial in rural Bangladesh found that the widespread use of surgical masks by adults yields a significant reduction in the spread of symptomatic COVID-19."

It's from your article. Glad to hear that you're now on board with surgical masks for adults.
 
More overblown rhetoric. You love to say “THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!! IT’S GONNA BE WAR!!!!”

Threaten violence if you don’t get your way. It’s the right wing lunatic version of “no justice, no peace.”.

Seriously, what are you going to do? Drive to the capitol, form a mob, and try to lynch Mike Pence again?
Your collectivist bent is showing.
 
I’m not threatening anything. I’m analyzing what’s going on. And I did tell you back then there would be violence from the right and I nailed that.

and yeah the rs will not live in a country where the courts allowthe federal govt to mandate via executive order anything this broad in defiance of what the individual states do. It’s the same for the ds if trump had ordered California and New York to open. Fortunately for the rs (and the survival of the republic) the rs control the courts right now.
I knew Dadspola a facist from the get go. You can see the desperate rhetoric he spews. Kinda like:

“We need to start looking at the choice to remain unvaccinated the same as we look at driving while intoxicated,” she told CNN’s Chris Cuomo Thursday night. “You have the option to not get vaccinated if you want, but then you can’t go out in public.”

Wen elaborated that society has an “obligation to prevent” the unvaccinated from leaving their homes and infecting others, in the same way that society has an obligation to deter drunk drivers.

“The vaccinated should not have to pay the price for the so-called choices of the unvaccinated anymore,” she continued.
 
Where do you see any fully vaccinated community with R above 1?

The closest example I can find is Martha’s Vineyard. 95% adult vax rate. Cases slowly declining ever since the Obama case spike. That means R slightly below 1. not growing.

I think what we are seeing is that delta spreads just fine from the unvaccinated to the vaccinated. That does not mean delta case numbers can grow within a vacinated population.
Still ignoring the Science that shows a robust immune system protected millions of infected folks pre-vax.
 
I knew Dadspola a facist from the get go. You can see the desperate rhetoric he spews. Kinda like:

“We need to start looking at the choice to remain unvaccinated the same as we look at driving while intoxicated,” she told CNN’s Chris Cuomo Thursday night. “You have the option to not get vaccinated if you want, but then you can’t go out in public.”

Wen elaborated that society has an “obligation to prevent” the unvaccinated from leaving their homes and infecting others, in the same way that society has an obligation to deter drunk drivers.

“The vaccinated should not have to pay the price for the so-called choices of the unvaccinated anymore,” she continued.
The scary thing for him will turn out to be if the uk authorities turn out to be right and the only way out is through natural infection. That means it’s people like him that are prolonging this by avoiding catching the virus while in high vaccinated immunity. Maybe then it flips and those of us living our lives have the right to grow impatient with him. Maybe even forcefully stripping his Mask off.
 
The scary thing for him will turn out to be if the uk authorities turn out to be right and the only way out is through natural infection. That means it’s people like him that are prolonging this by avoiding catching the virus while in high vaccinated immunity. Maybe then it flips and those of us living our lives have the right to grow impatient with him. Maybe even forcefully stripping his Mask off.
Denying people their right to strengthen their immune systems, through natural infection, is evil and cowardly.
 
Still ignoring the Science that shows a robust immune system protected millions of infected folks pre-vax.
No. I freely admit that we could be over this in a couple months if we used crop dusters to spray live Delta virus over the whole population.

Then just wait a few days. Anyone still alive must be immune!

It's just a bad idea, that's all.
 
. I freely admit that we could be over this in a couple months if we used crop dusters to spray live Delta virus over the whole population.
Here is the thing. You could crop dust everyone and it wouldn't affect the vast vast majority of people.

Those at risk are already with serious health issues or are old with serious health issues.

The 99.9xx of the rest will shrug it off like a dog shakes off water getting out of the pool
 
The scary thing for him will turn out to be if the uk authorities turn out to be right and the only way out is through natural infection. That means it’s people like him that are prolonging this by avoiding catching the virus while in high vaccinated immunity. Maybe then it flips and those of us living our lives have the right to grow impatient with him. Maybe even forcefully stripping his Mask off.
Given your track record, why would I believe your claim that the NHS is deliberately promoting covid infection as a way to increase natural immunity?

Much more likely that you just saw some positive quote about the benefits of natural immunity and are choosing to make it mean what you want it to mean.
 
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