Vaccine

watfly said:
Being in good shape also keeps you out of the hospital. There is more than one way to skin this cat. The government shouldn't be forcing you choose the medical treatment that they prefer.
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Being in gr8t shape is the way to go. I love the natural look and the natural life. I use what the land has giving me. I'm can say I am in the best shape of my life and because of that, I should get a hall pass, as long as I stay healthy. I like my cat skinned alive btw :)
 
Grace T. said:
a. "I think that the piece that is missing from these anti-mandate folks is that the vaccines are indeed helping" keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. You should just admit you misspoke then and didn't mean "antimandate folks". because
b. few of us are arguing that folks shouldn't take the vaccine. We are arguing it should be a personal choice. and
c. for some people (notably children, men under 30) particular vaccines or getting vaccinated may not be warranted because their risk is so miniscule they won't clog up the hospitals.
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Here's a death chart BTW.... a vaxxed under 30 risk is the same is a fully vaxxed for most ages until 65....most people don't understand the extreme age differential risks involved with this virus

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1475500815951577094
 
Grace T. said:
Errr...hate to tell you this, but you've bound yourself into quite a pretzel. On the one hand, you say you are anti-mandate. But YOU were the one that raised the hospital argument (not I) which is a pro-mandate argument. I pointed out to you why that argument didn't make sense. Which YOU then claim flies in the face of anything logical, when it is a response to the argument YOU made, which YOU claim you aren't really making at all.

Pretzel. Seriously, if you are anti-mandate, let's hear your argument about being anti-mandate. Why even bring up the canard about the hospitals?
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He's confused and doesn't realize that's his team.
 
New preprint....omicron infection has neutralizing immunity against the delta. Omicron will push the delta out (once its gone through the vaxxed).

Unless we get a new whacky and more dangerous variant (which is always a possibility even though viral evolution doesn't tend to go that way), I think if this study is true this may very well be the last hurrah for COVID. We'll all have to get our colds, however, to get there.....IF true (a big if), it's time to wave the white flag and remove remaining restrictions (saving only circuit breakers to preserve hospital capacity), ditch the masks, and get our colds.

(of course the first comment in response to this preprint being advertized on twitter is don't say that...the anti lockdown people will use it as an excuse to remove all remaining restrictions....well because if true and if the vaccines don't really prevent omicron spread that's where logic leads us to)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1475584463941914635
 
Grace T. said:
New preprint....omicron infection has neutralizing immunity against the delta. Omicron will push the delta out (once its gone through the vaxxed).

Unless we get a new whacky and more dangerous variant (which is always a possibility even though viral evolution doesn't tend to go that way), I think if this study is true this may very well be the last hurrah for COVID. We'll all have to get our colds, however, to get there.....IF true (a big if), it's time to wave the white flag and remove remaining restrictions (saving only circuit breakers to preserve hospital capacity), ditch the masks, and get our colds.


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1475584463941914635
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Agree - this is very good news if verified.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Agree - this is very good news if verified.
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Its a done deal and you can take it to the bank. Also, the military has a shot that will heal everyone from all the other BS in your blood. It's the shot heard around the world. For those who stood tall and said no shots and got the Rona early on, they are now superman or superwoman. I feel like the man today and it's because I feel super good about myself and so much more. I love myself more then ever :)
 
Grace T. said:
a. Because you were the one that called out the "anti-mandate" folks.
b. It's not all people....it's certain people....going around vaccinating all kids (some may very well need vaccination) is not doing much for your hospital capacity. Vaccinating everyone over 40 yeah absolutely good idea, but the boosters may not do much. Vaccinating and boosting everyone over 60 or 70, absolutely.
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Here we go again, CLEAN UP ON AISLE 5! When will they learn.
 
Funny how over the past week or 2 the messaging is changing. Learn to live with it. Hardest hit? People like dad who thought if we just tried harder it would go away.

This is the new normal,” said Leana Wen, a public health professor at George Washington University and former Baltimore health commissioner. “This is what we will have to accept as we transition from the emergency of COVID-19 to living with it as part of the new normal.”

thehill.com

Experts say COVID-19 cases don’t tell whole story

For nearly two years, Americans have looked carefully at coronavirus case numbers in the country and in their local states and towns to judge the risk of the disease.Surging case numbers signaled g…
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The flippers always flip it back on you. If all one does is lie when they speak, it's called cheating and stealing the truth from others.

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Grace T. said:
It's funny that Joe Biden's COVID plan is beginning to look more and more like Trump's COVID plan...."There is no federal solution....this gets solved on the state level." Biden waiving the white flag.
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I remember him running on that and the press dutifully parroting that talking point.

And yet from day 1 it was basically the same plan. Get the vaxx out and get testing done. There really wasn't much else to do unless one wanted to go authoritarian, and our Constitution doesn't allow that.
 
And again we know very little about the long term affects of the vaxx.

Here scientists are debating whether a 4th shot does more good vs harm.

Which again is another reason why there should be NO VAXX mandate.

But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times.

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Desert Hound said:
because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus.
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This is what my best Doc pal told me years ago. The best "vaccine" you have is your personal immune system that does NOT need any help from Bill and Melinda or Dr. F and Frances or t himself, who say's he made three in less then 12 months. All these frauds must be compromised by Jeffrey and his girlfriend whose Papi was Robert. I guess Victoria always had a secret and we will all find out soon. These little punks sure know how to buy folks, then bribe them and then blackmail their asses to do what you need them to do.
 
Desert Hound said:
Funny how over the past week or 2 the messaging is changing. Learn to live with it. Hardest hit? People like dad who thought if we just tried harder it would go away.

This is the new normal,” said Leana Wen, a public health professor at George Washington University and former Baltimore health commissioner. “This is what we will have to accept as we transition from the emergency of COVID-19 to living with it as part of the new normal.”

thehill.com

Experts say COVID-19 cases don’t tell whole story

For nearly two years, Americans have looked carefully at coronavirus case numbers in the country and in their local states and towns to judge the risk of the disease.Surging case numbers signaled g…
thehill.com thehill.com
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She is on a new level of quackery these days. . She's great at pushing her book. She's such an embarrasment to those that care for patients every day. To think that she was in charge of public health policy at one point is beyond scary. Maybe at one point she believed in the oath she took but who knows.
 
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