kickingandscreaming
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Wear masks - whatever the outcome
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This is good news. So far all cases mild or asymptomatic in the EU
www.ecdc.europa.eu
Epidemiological update: Omicron variant of concern (VOC) – data as of 3 December 2021 (12.00)
As of 3 December and since 2 December 2021, 30 additional SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant of concern (VOC) cases have been confirmed in the European Union and European Economic Area (EU/EEA), contributing to an overall total of 109 confirmed cases so far.
Wear masks - whatever the outcome
remember earlier this year when the recommendation from experts was to double mask, I wonder if that is coming back
why stop at 2?
As a country, probably nothing. Even if it turns out that vax-vax transmission is low, it won't change anyone's mind.
A low number for vax-vax transmission would convince me that the vax is critical. My county already has a 90% 12+ vax rate. So all of us vaccinated people will continue to be happy to be vaccinated.
DeSantis would point to a low vax hospitalization rate and a low vax-vax transmission rate, and ask what the problem is. Those who are care can get the vax and be protected.
A high vax-vax transmission rate might cause risk averse places like SF to tighten rules. Reasonable, but don't count on Breed to follow them.
Now you've neglected the other side of the coin. the other issue is severity. If it is a cold, even if there is high vax-vax transmission, DeSantis probably does nothing and let's people get their colds. Some in SF still freak out, there's pressure for SF to move on, but some special interest groups (like teacher's unions) push for more restrictions.
If both transmission and severity are high, De Santis comes under federal pressure since Biden's back is to the wall. Again problem.
Here's also the monkey wrench....there's anecdotal evidence from South Africa that this might be hitting children (hospitalizations, not deaths) harder. It's hard to tell from the chatter if this is just more fear porn (we've seen this story before) or if the script has been flipped. If it's flipped, all bets off.
thirteenknots
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You have a lot of " Fears " and they seem to drive you.
thirteenknots
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The percentage rate of Vaccine failures is climbing rapidly, you could find yourself in
a county that has a high mortality rate in the not so distant future. Just look at the
growing list of short/long term reactions vaccinated " Beings " are having.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Your insecurities are showing.
I had no idea you were on this board, Dad
Hey man, when are you or Espola going to go "all Golden Gate" on us? I figured out why you and Espola are so scared. 75 years old and not knowing the truth easy for old folks to deal with and will cause you to be fearful, scared and afraid of the meet up with you know who, who knows everything about you and your pal Espola. Nothing to be afarid of, just answer honestly and all will go well for your soul. Everything will be laid bare for all to see. I can;t wait!!!
Dad, Espola or Golden Gate. I have always said their the same.
The universe hates you, I swear....it seems more than once when you post something (particularly when it's optimistic and hopefully) the universe just back slaps you. See below. Anecdotal but first omicron superspreader even in Norway. Very high vax-vax transmission (80-90 people out of 120...some not even present at the event but at the restaurant), but so far low severity. if the severity turns out to be high, we are looking at a square 1 situation with massive civil unrest (yes espola, if the severity turns out to be high, you can say then "You're panicking")
Desert Hound
DA
It is a lack of historical knowledge. Everything today is new under the Sun type mentality.
It really doesn't take much for people or governments to overreach.
I always like to say...despite our advancements in a variety of fields...we are still fundamentally the same people as were lets say the Romans. By that I mean the thing that drove them then, drives most today. Fear, greed, lust, pride...other emotions. And decisions are driven on those things.
We tame it down, but it bubbles underneath the surface.
Desert Hound
DA
And despite that...you guys live in fear. Mask up here, show papers there.
No way to live your life son.
Generally good news re severity on the vaccinated and previously ill....if so this might end with everyone (given the norway superspreader event) having to catch a cold.
www.bloomberg.com
Omicron Up Close: South Africa’s Experts Tell Their Stories
The panicked reaction across much of the world to the omicron variant comes with a scramble for information. In South Africa, the country where omicron was first identified and where cases are jumping, scientists and doctors describe what they are seeing.
www.bloomberg.com
I'm told it's a blessing to catch these little boogers naturally ((if you dont have underlying health issues)) and use your immune system from Creator and then let the little pest mutate and then your body is like Superman and can crush the bastards. For best results, please follow crush's healthy lifestyle. Confess sins ((walk in the light)). No meat. No booze. No Ice Cream. Eat only healthy and organic. Fruits, salads and veggies with some nuts. Thai food is excellent. I got the Rona Jan 20th, 2020 and probably the Delta as well this year. It's great to walk around with no fear you guys. I wear a mask when asked to so I dont anger the old scared people like Espola. Dude is 75 and he's got some explaining to do with the man upstairs. Also, I promise if I feel sick i will stay home and stay in my room. I look forward to celebrating the lovely Holidays with my loved ones, vaccinated or not. Ho Ho Ho, Merry Christmas I know WHO is looking for a Dark Winter.
I know WHO is looking for a Dark Winter.
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kickingandscreaming
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Remember when razors for your beard had one blade?
kickingandscreaming
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There are a lot of people who spent too much time these past two years worried about how not to die and not enough time actually living.
Wow, just got off the phone with a cool pal from old days. Dude was told Jab by next week or be put on unpaid leave. Well, his boss man said today they now can't enforce and all is well. However, this is a big company and many of the workers got jabbed already and feel tricked to keep job. One is not doing very well sick wise and is resting at home but freaking out. He's also pissed off because he got jabbed and others got out of it. He was one of the heavier workers and not healthy. He has a point and this seems unfair for Employers. Let's say the guy who took the jab dies all of sudden? Now what?
With the case rate at present in CA, we’d all be in the deep purple tier if the ‘science’ hadn’t changed. Wait… nope, still the same science, must’ve been something else.