I think it's funny that the most likely scenario shaping up right now is one which people who have been living with might actually be comfortable (if not thrilled) with but which will terrify the Covidians. A variant which rapidly becomes dominant (too quickly and in the worse time seasonally in the northern hemisphere for a vaccine update to do any good), is highly transmissible even vaxxed to vaxxed, but is relatively mild (at least for the vaxxed). Politically it means the vaxx mandates are in tatters, the public unwilling to accept further restrictions, mask theater won't do much good, and everyone (even those terrified of catching COVID) is going to come down with the bad cold. Again, way too early to tell for sure, but that's what the early tea leaves are saying.
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I think it's funny that the most likely scenario shaping up right now is one which people who have been living with might actually be comfortable (if not thrilled) with but which will terrify the Covidians. A variant which rapidly becomes dominant (too quickly and in the worse time seasonally in the northern hemisphere for a vaccine update to do any good), is highly transmissible even vaxxed to vaxxed, but is relatively mild (at least for the vaxxed). Politically it means the vaxx mandates are in tatters, the public unwilling to accept further restrictions, mask theater won't do much good, and everyone (even those terrified of catching COVID) is going to come down with the bad cold. Again, way too early to tell for sure, but that's what the early tea leaves are saying.
The Covidiots or Covidians?
"Pfizer has been hesitant to go into some of the countries because of the liability problems, they don’t have a liability shield" - World Bank President David Malpass
Hüsker Dü
DA
Who? Where? Everyone I know took precautions and lived their lives. Have you seen this personally or is this a hunch, a guess or something you were told?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I'd be very satisfied with that scenario.
Is there any evidence that suggests COVID will "run out" of mutations that will escape vaccines? Florida pretty much gave up with the mask mandates 15 months ago. I can't imagine the scenario above encouraging them to adopt mask mandates again and I also can't imagine that scenario will encourage CA to give up mask mandates. I wonder how long until CA actually gives up mask mandates? It's your "off ramp" question, really.
Yeah, but certain Covidians will be terrified of it. I worry about their mental sanity.
There is one scenario to suggest COVID runs out of mutations: what happened in Japan. But with omicron it's looking more like just an evolutionary dead end fluke and Japan will go back up once it opens its borders and the omicron gets settled.
I was just in another forum discussing the offramp. I'm increasingly convinced short of a handful of scenarios which involve a limited set of circumstances (e.g., the pending war in the Ukraine, Joe Biden falls ill), that the only off ramp is the complete and total annihilation of the Democrats in 2022, which (due in part to factors beyond their control and which only the Supreme Court might slightly alleviate them from) is becoming increasingly inevitable.
Coocoo.
We will be terrified?
Thanks for the tip. I'll put that on my to do list.
You do much better when you focus on explaining your own point of view. Your attempts to speak for the opposite side come off as annoying and uninformed.
Annoying= “I don’t like that you are pointing out obvious things that make me uncomfortable”
Uniformed= “you are a heretic that doesn’t understand the true faith”
In any case I didn’t say “all”. I said “certain”. And I purposefully didn’t call you out by name, though your wearing an n95 to the market (which primarily is geared to protecting you and not others and which either points out you are concerned about yourself or you don’t really believe your own rhetoric about masks work) does make me suspect that (whether you admit it or not) you would be uncomfortable with that scenario. I’d also take you at your word were you to say yeah while not thrilled I’m not particularly frightened of catching covid (though to date I don’t think we’ve heard you say that).
“Oh Magoo old chap, you’ve done it again!”
Ugh. 75% attack rate.
High transmission among vax, high transmission among previously infected, and high hospitalization rate among the young.
Hope it doesn't hold up as new data comes in.
Yeah this is one time I wish you had been absolutely right on the money
the high hospitalization among the young is suspect.South Africa skews extremely young and they’ve been doing vaccination by age band. There’s also some skew because South Africa counts as hospitalized er visits. But we really don’t know about this one yet
the others we have good data points already and then there were the models too.
Please explain a non-crazy biological basis for "run out of mutations".
MicPaPa
GOLD
TDS
It’s above. I posted the study days ago. I don’t know if it’s right or wrong but that’s why they are postulating covid collapsed in Japan while at the same time is seasonally exploding in south korea
do better. Try and keep up if you want to play
Biden goes out to eat maskless in DC despite cold, with Kennedy Center event on Sunday
Biden was seen maskless after press secretary Jen Psaki said DC should reinstate its mask mandate to abide by CDC guidelines
P.S. Dude is 79 years old and his face has no wrinkles. WTF? Look at this normal 79 year old.
