kickingandscreaming
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He's a troll. Don't expect anything else from him.
Vaccine
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I refuse (so far) to just lie down and die, but my doctor handed me some Final Instructions papers on a decent visit.
And please continue. You're doing great today.
Sounds like, at the edge of the precipice, you are in a little bit of denial, huh? It's sad...my mom's the same way. You have my sympathies. It's a tough issue.
Like a lot of "news" today, the narrative value is much more important than the truth. The best part is the partisan rubes that fall for it.
What causes me to have issues with the forms is that some of the procedures that would be excluded actually kept me alive in 2018.
Singapore had an outbreak?
Their "outbreak" is about 1/20 the size of ours, even after adjusting for population.
That's like pointing to someone with a 1570 SAT and saying "See. She missed questions, too."
Hard to determine if you are in denial, are trying to deliberately gas light or just are so blind logically you don’t see it. The point isn’t that they don’t do better than the us (of course with that vaxx rate even if you throw out everything pre delta they will do better). The point is with the masks and with the high vaxx rate they still had an outbreak which is ongoing!!!
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
These aren't the droids you are looking for.
That's my point. With their mask acceptance and their vax rate, they did much better.
What would have happened here if we had behaved like they behaved? We could have done much better, too.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You’re babbling.What does it say? Nothing. With millions of visitors and 33K locals, it’s all noise and no signal. Even the vax rate is all noise. A tiny fraction of people getting vaccinated while on holiday would be enough to mess up the counts.
If you want to know whether breakthrough cases are rare, take a look at Watfly’s MN page. SCC also breaks out the vaccinated case rate from the unvax. For SCC, the jab reduces your odds of a positive test by about 82%: from 33.7 per 100K to 6.2 per 100K.
It’s an 80% reduction. I’ll let you worry about whether that counts as “rare” or not.
Then you pulled an espola and aren't focused on the issue. The issue is whether there is such a thing as herd immunity. Singapore shows that there isn't.
We agree that if more people vaxx they'll be less death, less hospitalization, and yes even less cases....less cases does not mean, however, it goes away and less cases does not mean the vulnerable are suddenly off scott free.
Bruddah IZ
DA
How do you behave Asian when you’re not.
p.s. how do you know my sat score??? Been snopping???
The thing that cuts against that argument is that Singapore has a substantial Arab and Indian Subcontinent population as well, particularly in the underclasses. The thing that cuts against dad4's mask argument is that Singapore is pretty much a police state that can enforce its restrictions and it's vaxx requirements with little dissent...and yet they still had an outbreak.
Hüsker Dü
DA
I didn’t say anything about horse paste, so? For dome an IQ issue for many others simply a misinformation issue. I have personally witnessed a few rational, good people swayed by their preferred news to believe some pretty whacky stuff, and that pisses me off.
The Chinese, still focused on zero covid, have taken the zoonotic reserve issue to a logical conclusion by targeting corgis.....
www.cnn.com
The killing of a corgi shows how government power has grown unchecked in China in the name of Covid prevention | CNN
A series of loud bangs startle the sleeping corgi, driving it out of its bed. The door opens and two people dressed in full hazmat suits enter the living room, one carrying a crowbar and another a yellow plastic bag.
www.cnn.com
Hüsker Dü
DA
The point is, dismissing others health concerns is nonsensical, ignorant and arrogant. As long as what you do isn’t harming others have at it. Better safe than sorry. I find doomsday preppers as a bit off but hey to each his/her own.
p.s. the Chinese have been o.k. with forcibly sticking stuff up people's butt, welding people into their homes, and separating parents and children, but dogs are where the population finally draws the line??? ^\_(;?)_/^The Chinese, still focused on zero covid, have taken the zoonotic reserve issue to a logical conclusion by targeting corgis.....
The killing of a corgi shows how government power has grown unchecked in China in the name of Covid prevention | CNN
A series of loud bangs startle the sleeping corgi, driving it out of its bed. The door opens and two people dressed in full hazmat suits enter the living room, one carrying a crowbar and another a yellow plastic bag.
a. Not nonsensical. It's criticism of irrational behavior. It's not saying the behavior is immoral. Just that it's irrational.
b. Nor ignorant. It's the irrational behavior which is ignorant, by definition.
c. I'll cop to the arrogant. But look who you are talking to? It's not like you are new to these forums.
d. 'as long as what you do isn't harming others have at it'. Sure. By all means. Glad you finally agree with team realism that people should be free to make their own choices.
e. 'better safe than sorry'. Sorry, no. As long as what you are doing doesn't have a cost on others...by all means have it...we are free to laugh at you for it to. You might think we aren't nice human beings for laughing, but that doesn't make it any less funny. But when your desires and actions to remain "safe" have negative consequences on others, then it is an entirely different story, right? right????
Bit of a conspiracy theory but makes an interesting argument and has some interesting data. The chief thing that cuts against this is that unless there was a massive Chinese lockdown we didn't know about, it would have escaped somewhere into the world and some doctor somewhere would have known whatever flu this was wasn't acting like a flu and had it written up. Still it's possible, however unlikely, the world medical community was that asleep at the switch
theethicalskeptic.com
China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018
A world inquiring about the origins of SARS-CoV-2 has been met with repeated antipathy and lack of cooperation on the part of the Chinese Communist Party. Consequently, any speculation that the CCP concealed the presence of SARS-CoV-2 prior to December 2019 must be researched through an...
theethicalskeptic.com