Vaccine

GoldenGate said:
Hey Watfly, did Bruddah IZ claiming that only 17 people a day are dying of Covid in FL "tend to post facts", or did the evil left leaning liberals who pointed out why that is complete and utter bs and follow it up with actual facts constitute "facts"? Or are you just completely full of shit when you claim that the right wing clowns here post "facts"?
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What part of "tend to" don't you understand?
 
watfly said:
100%. Grace gives some good reasons. The left has this odd and apparently fear based mentality where its the children's responsibility to protect adults. Like I said before this is like not allowing kids on the Titanic for fear they might panic and flip the lifeboats and kill adults. If you think that school closures and mask and vaccine mandates are for the protection of children you need to take a deeper dive into the data.

I don't recall you calling out EOTL/GG on any of his inappropriate comments, so pot meet kettle. If you think his name calling, venom and blatant mischaracterizations are even remotely close to what the right leaning posters say here I question your observational skills. With maybe one exception, the right leaning posters tend to post facts for their arguments whereas the left leaning tend to post emotions and insults. Recall that EOTL has already been kicked off this forum once.

And as far as calling out others outside this board, how many on the left called the summer riots vs the right that called out the Jan 6 riot? You'll find that the right was far more critical of the 6th then the left of the summer riots. If you recall McConnell spoke out on the Senate floor and called out the rioters and Trump. Did Pelosi or anyone on the left do the same about the summer riots aka the "Summer of Love"?

I'm hardly the poster child for a male, white Trump righty (who I never voted for). I'm agnostic, pro-choice, socially liberal, small government minded and fiscal conservative, who try's to base his opinions on the evidence. My koolaid is more purple than red.
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Does Crush "tend to post facts" when he claims that the Covid-19 vaccine is a war crime according to the Nuremburg Code?
 

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watfly said:
100%. Grace gives some good reasons. The left has this odd and apparently fear based mentality where its the children's responsibility to protect adults. Like I said before this is like not allowing kids on the Titanic for fear they might panic and flip the lifeboats and kill adults. If you think that school closures and mask and vaccine mandates are for the protection of children you need to take a deeper dive into the data.

I don't recall you calling out EOTL/GG on any of his inappropriate comments, so pot meet kettle. If you think his name calling, venom and blatant mischaracterizations are even remotely close to what the right leaning posters say here I question your observational skills. With maybe one exception, the right leaning posters tend to post facts for their arguments whereas the left leaning tend to post emotions and insults. Recall that EOTL has already been kicked off this forum once.

And as far as calling out others outside this board, how many on the left called the summer riots vs the right that called out the Jan 6 riot? You'll find that the right was far more critical of the 6th then the left of the summer riots. If you recall McConnell spoke out on the Senate floor and called out the rioters and Trump. Did Pelosi or anyone on the left do the same about the summer riots aka the "Summer of Love"?

I'm hardly the poster child for a male, white Trump righty (who I never voted for). I'm agnostic, pro-choice, socially liberal, small government minded and fiscal conservative, who try's to base his opinions on the evidence. My koolaid is more purple than red.
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Does Desert Hound "tend to post facts" when he cuts and pastes an anonymous anti-vax manifesto from which he repeatedly refuses to identify the source (which it turns out is from a conspiracy theory blog), but that we do know cites a horse paste "pathologist" who has been shot down by every reputable source out there? Are those facts?
 

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Grace T. said:
So my kid got home last week from a Catalina overnight with school Everyone there was doubled vaxxed or had confirmed natural immunity, they wore masks indoors or on transport including at night while sleeping with open windows, everyone took a Covid test the day before they left and the day they got back.

Interesting they despite all those precautions had a small COVID outbreak (now the question is does anything sneak in around school despite the testing). Further interesting the kids that fell ill are all double vaxxed (none of the naturally immune so far have fallen ill as far as I know).
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Did your kid have a blast? My son can't wait to go this weekend.

They made kids wear masks while sleeping? If they did that's insane. I'll have to check, but I don't think our kids have to be tested either before or after. It's significantly safer to be outdoors at Catalina then indoors for the most part of 7 hours at school, particularly with kids that are unvaccinated or previously uninfected.

We attended the USC game at the Coliseum on Saturday where masks and vaccinations, or negative test required. Not a big deal to show vax card, and everyone entered with a mask on, but once sitting down mask wearing was probably less than 5%.
 
watfly said:
Did your kid have a blast? My son can't wait to go this weekend.

They made kids wear masks while sleeping? If they did that's insane. I'll have to check, but I don't think our kids have to be tested either before or after. It's significantly safer to be outdoors at Catalina then indoors for the most part of 7 hours at school, particularly with kids that are unvaccinated or previously uninfected.

We attended the USC game at the Coliseum on Saturday where masks and vaccinations, or negative test required. Not a big deal to show vax card, and everyone entered with a mask on, but once sitting down mask wearing was probably less than 5%.
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Yes he loved it. Wouldn't have denied him the opportunity for the world.

Our school is totally overboard on the restrictions (remember when I wrote them down way back in September of last year everyone here thought it was insane....little did they know that would become a regular occurence in blue states) so the restrictions were school rather than facilities based and despite all that they STILL got some COVID cases.

Yeah the mask theater is getting really funny. The best one was going into the pediatrician's office for our first in person visit in over a year and a half and the receptionist has the mask down under her nose.
 
watfly said:
100%. Grace gives some good reasons. The left has this odd and apparently fear based mentality where its the children's responsibility to protect adults. Like I said before this is like not allowing kids on the Titanic for fear they might panic and flip the lifeboats and kill adults. If you think that school closures and mask and vaccine mandates are for the protection of children you need to take a deeper dive into the data.

I don't recall you calling out EOTL/GG on any of his inappropriate comments, so pot meet kettle. If you think his name calling, venom and blatant mischaracterizations are even remotely close to what the right leaning posters say here I question your observational skills. With maybe one exception, the right leaning posters tend to post facts for their arguments whereas the left leaning tend to post emotions and insults. Recall that EOTL has already been kicked off this forum once.

And as far as calling out others outside this board, how many on the left called the summer riots vs the right that called out the Jan 6 riot? You'll find that the right was far more critical of the 6th then the left of the summer riots. If you recall McConnell spoke out on the Senate floor and called out the rioters and Trump. Did Pelosi or anyone on the left do the same about the summer riots aka the "Summer of Love"?

I'm hardly the poster child for a male, white Trump righty (who I never voted for). I'm agnostic, pro-choice, socially liberal, small government minded and fiscal conservative, who try's to base his opinions on the evidence. My koolaid is more purple than red.
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Hey Watfly, when the "strict constructionist" claims that New Zealand's containment has failed -although fewer New Zealanders have contracted Covid in 18 months than Americans have died of it in a single day and, in fact, more Americans have died of Covid in one hour in a single hospital than total New Zealanders have died of Covid in total - is the right leaning anti-vaxxer/masker "tending to post facts"?
 

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Grace T. said:
Yeah the mask theater is getting really funny. The best one was going into the pediatrician's office for our first in person visit in over a year and a half and the receptionist has the mask down under her nose.
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Hey Watfly, does an anti-vaxxer/masker's anecdotal "evidence" against wearing a mask "tend to post facts"? But, hey, so long as you now approve of anecdotal evidence , below is a bunch of it from a number of Herman Cain Award winners who shared the strict constructionist's disapproval of masks. It's truly amazing how often the children of lions become orphans.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/psfpjj
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/puomdo
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ptu1ec
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/q4wigh
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/puazox
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...timask_mom_sombering_reality_when_39_year_old
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain..._so_many_before_him_freedomloving_maskhating/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...hecked_almost_all_the_boxes_candace_michelle/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...ce_wasnt_a_vax_sheep_and_he_didnt_like_masks/
 
watfly said:
I'd have to check with Espola, he is the forum "fact checker".
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So now you've come full circle. You started this nonsense by claiming that people like me and espola just post emotions and insults, and now you're ending it by making fun of espola for actually posting facts. Of course you are.

BTW, the real reason you and your buddies are so upset about me posting examples of dumbfucks who died due to their dumbfuckery is that you don't want to confront the truth. The truth is that it's a lot more fun when Grace T. and crush are making fun of people wearing masks if you can pretend people aren't dying because of it. It must be such as hoot making fun of masks and vaccines, and so empathetic to get upset about having to confront the fact that people are dying. Congrats on your contributions to making orphans.
 
GoldenGate said:
So I checked back in with FL as you asked. That 7 day moving average of 17 deaths per day that you thought was so great is now at 75 - because FL holds back deaths for the express purpose of duping dumbfucks like you. It turns out that the decrease is neither sudden nor sharp. Too bad your dumbfuck friend is as easily duped as you. The media has already gotten to the bottom of this, which is that FL changed the way it reports Covid deaths so that recent deaths are not reported for weeks, giving the false impression that it's doing well.
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Let me verify your work. Get back to you.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Let me verify your work. Get back to you.
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I highly doubt that, given that I took it from the exact same website that you used to assert that the 10/2 7-day average death rate in FL was 17 people a day. At this point, given that same number is now at 75 a day and rising, you and your anti-vax/mask friends are just going to have to claim everyone is dying in motorcycle accidents. You might also want to direct all the "prayer warriors" to the right cause of death though, because they seem to be wasting their time on the non-existent Covid people. That said, it turns out God doesn't give a shit about anyone's prayers.

www.latimes.com

Largest Study of Prayer to Date Finds It Has No Power to Heal

The largest study yet on the therapeutic power of prayer by strangers has found that it provided no benefit to the recovery of patients who had undergone cardiac bypass surgery.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com

In fact, praying just increases the likelihood of bad outcomes.

Prayer and healing: A medical and scientific perspective on randomized controlled trials - PMC

Religious traditions across the world display beliefs in healing through prayer. The healing powers of prayer have been examined in triple-blind, randomized controlled trials. We illustrate randomized controlled trials on prayer and healing, with ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What do you think Watfly? Factual enough for you?
 
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