Most kids in the class have cancelled birthday parties, too. Wasn’t just me. We’ve had about 1/4 as many as normal, all outside.
Vaccine
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I wouldn’t invite the judgmental, fully vaccinated family to my children’s parties either.
Mine had his. Again, fully vaxxed or naturally immune kids. Outdoors. Small gathering post vaxx. If you are cancelling, again that's on you.
But people who have had it once + double vaxxed are getting it apparently, so if that holds up, you are never going to be fully safe,....
Where do you live, Chicken Little Estates? Seriously, its your choice but you and your friends are living in some parallel universe from the rest of us.
When you say rules, you're speaking of your rules. There is no vaccination rule or global mask rule, and certainly no prohibition on kid's birthday parties. Again adults putting their fears and burdens on the kids.
My kid is going to Catalina the week after. They have a big group going because they're the only school in the camp that week, well that and parents that don't put their fears and burdens on kids. They were supposed to do it last year but Covid. So he gets DC/NY trip in same year.
Again….your choice to make your kid suffer over something that will have little to no affect on them what so ever. Did you avoid birthday parties during the normal flu season?
I don’t understand how people feel towards those who choose not to be vaccinated. Your vaccine works for you, not them.
We know you’d rather us behave like Australia. You’re in favor of the Totalitarian state because you never suffered financially from the impact of the closures and mandates like most of the population.
So it’s easy for you to peach from your safe space.
met61
GOLD
Guess what "asshole"... you can still catch & spread...along with socially and emotionally damaging your kids. Brilliant!
Santa Clara County.
Our death rate from covid is less than 1/4 the national average. Adult first shot vax rate nearing 90%. You still see people on hiking trails wearing masks. And the people going the other way put theirs on as they pass. We had a month or two where stores didn’t require masks. People wore them anyway.
So, in some ways, it is a parallel universe.
Well our drinking water comes out of the Colorado River so we're pretty risk tolerant in San Diego.
what-happened
GOLD
An emerging issue is the continued finacial burden of those with breakthrough cases.. Those like DAD that can hang from home can be sanctimonious.
Vaccines were sold as the silver freedom bullet, back to normal, back to work. Companies/small businesses are still sending employees home and mandating 10-14 day quanrantines, many without pay. Unfortunately life for most isn't as neat and tidy as DAD portrays or lives. Imagine having to forgoe Birthday Parties and sleepovers...how brave.
But if you read the article:
"By contrast, Newsom said his administration will allow students to decline a COVID-19 vaccine because of personal beliefs."
Nothing burger...
Study suggests neutralising antibodies persist in most individuals for at least a year after SARS-CoV-2 infection
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More on natural immunity persisting at least a year after infection.
Actually let me post the full quote:
"Newsom’s directive will add the COVID-19 vaccine to the California Department of Public Health’s list of required shots for school kids attending classes in person, which already include those that prevent measles, mumps and rubella, chicken pox and polio. Students cannot city personal or religious beliefs to decline those vaccines under a 2017 law.
By contrast, Newsom said his administration will allow students to decline a COVID-19 vaccine because of personal beliefs."
This seems like a great compromise.
Desert Hound
DA
You kid can have a sleepover any time.
70 million people 17 and under 450 or so deaths.
You are the math guy. Tell me if there is any real risk to your kids at sleepovers or birthday parties...you know the ones right now you are scared to allow?
Based on the above numbers how on earth do you justify not letting kids do stuff when they have absolutely zero risk?
I'm assuming that's the religious exception, which is narrow.
LAUSD sports/extracurricular mandate kicks in next week. We'll get our first taste of how this is going to go.
what-happened
GOLD
You live in one of the healthiest counties in the country, great access to health care, ranking at the top of nearly every positive public health indicator imaginable. Culturally you will do what you are told. It's not suprising that outcomes in the county are so great. This isn' a dig, it's your reality. It's not most people's reality.
Your county also will see an increase in breakthrough infections, it's inevitable. The increases in breakthrough infections (at least in AZ) are profound. No doubt that vaccines work but will behaviours change over time or will they stay the same amongst the most compliant. People are still going to get sick.
I mean wouldn't they have said "religious belief" like they did in the sentence right before that one? I'd like to get that verified before jumping to any conclusions.
I think this is a great approach though. Kids who are vaccinated go through less at school when a close contact is discovered. That alone is worth getting the youngers vaccinated. People who are willing to deal with quarantine (modified or full) then fine...do that.
Bruddah IZ
DA
anti-immune system zealots ignore the fact that COVID has clearly shown that it is extremely age discriminate.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Shocking isn’t it? The evolutionary process continues.
They tend to use personal belief to expand those without an organized religion due to recent court rulings on the subject. But you are right, we don't know how large the personal belief exemption is. I don't, however, think it will be "I voted for Donald Trump and think vaccines are a hoax" will be good enough. It generally needs to be documented.
p.s. another devil in the details: the Feinstein natural immunity to the airline ban exception only recognizes natural immunity for 3 months in its current form....which is silly since the emerging consensus is that natural immunity is at least as robust and long as vaccine immunity.
what-happened
GOLD
Pretty soon it will be the pandemic of the "unboostered". Then what.